I am new to AS/400
yiutin
and I found that there are some banks which require such skill, what's that?
thx
yiutin
Jan Gerrit Kootstra
Yiuitin,
AS/400 is a medium size business computer mainly used for financial
transactions.
It has its own operating system OS/400. IBM is the builder of the hardware and
operating system.
www.ibm.com and look for ISeries, the new name for AS/400.
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Jan Gerrit Kootstra
email: jan.g...@kootstra.org.uk
Bill
manufacturing planning systems (ERP/MRPII/MRP)....guess I am out of a job.
Bill
"Jan Gerrit Kootstra" <jan.g...@kootstra.co.uk> wrote in message
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Jan Gerrit Kootstra
Bill,
I hope not, but our customers only use them for financial transactions.
Salaries, vacantion house bookings and ship finacing.
So it is just my narrow mindsetting and not your boss his opinion that is
expressed in my first mailing.
D. Martin
I worked for a company that replaced thier mainframes with AS/400's
with 6 billion dollars in annual sales. So not sure about your
statement that AS400 is for medium size business.
D.Martin
Jan Gerrit Kootstra
D. Martin,
I refered to the size of the computer. Ok with the introduction of the model
9406-890 this will be hard to defend.
Until now I only read attacks on my statement, fair enough, but no one is helping
to make my explanation any better.
SHAMEL JANBEK
AS/400 servers - now called iSeries Servers - are just like any
computer; a conbination of Hardware and Software. iSeries servers has
been in the market for almost 18 years. This IBM mustang has made over
100 Billion worth of profit for IBM since it was launced. iSeries
servers major distinctions are as follows:
1. Hardware and operating system integration thus increasing
perfomance and
stability. FYI AS/400 are considered to be one of the most stable
systems on
earth. Thats why its a bank preference.
2. Built-in security. Security is part of the operating system, this
boosts the
security.
3. AS/400 are object-oriented systems, everything that occupies
storage on the
harddisk is an object. You have about 85 object types on the AS/400
wherein
each object has its own properties and a set of commands used on
it.
4. IBM offers a wide range of AS/400 models and types. Ranging from a
single
CPU to 24-way processors. You want to get the AS/400 HAndbook from
the
internet of your local IBM agent. The Handbook better outlines the
AS/400
models available in the market.
5. 'AS/400 is a business-oriented system' that is absolutely true,
however it
is
the running software that determines the functionalities of the
AS/400.
e.g. You have AS/400 Dedicated Domino Servers which serve as mail,
workflow
web server. You can also have the AS/400 serve you as a FileServer
for a
Windows, Unix or netware environment.
There are lots of things that I can write you about the AS/400, one
main thing you should understand about AS/400s, THEY ARE JUST GREAT
MACHINES. I hope you enjoy wroking on them.
Check out the follwoing sites, they are full of information on
AS/400s:
1. AS/400 Info Center: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/pubs/html/as400/
2. AS/400 News Magazine : WWW.News400.com
3. AS/400 Books and education : www.29thstreetpress.com
Good Luck,
Shamel Janbek
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Chuck Ackerman
Actually, I've been in the IBM "midrange" (S/38 and AS/400) for about 27
years and hardly ever hear much about it in the realm of the financial
world. The AS/400 aka iSeries is a general purpose computer good for any
business computing. Personally, I've seen it have a stronghold in
manufacturing, distribution and retail. Companies such as Disney, Lamps
Plus, Costco, Apple Computer, Microsoft, Exel Logistics, and of course
Countrywide funding. And, now that it will run various flavors of Unix it
will also serve the number crunching crowd as well.
chuck
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Chuck Ackerman
A minor correction. The iSeries aka AS/400 was announced June 21st, 1988.
I was at the announcement party. I'm not sure that qualifies for "over 18"
years.
chuck
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MW
I had a client that called me in because they were getting QSYSOPR
messages about a serious storage condition (running out of disk
space). Now, the AS/400 will clean up after itself when you perform
an IPL (pretty much a reboot), which will delete temporary files, etc.
and get you back some disk space.
But when asked when the AS/400 was IPL'd last, they would always
reply, "Huh?" - they didn't even know where the 400 was.
I think that's a testament to AS/400 and OS/400 stability - these
people were griping that it was running out of storage space, yet they
bought it, stuck it in a closet, forgot about it, and it ran their
business for years without any attention whatsoever.
Can't say that about UNIX or NT!
Mike
Dan Hicks
shipped in 1980. So the line is about 22 years old.
--
Dan Hicks
A desk is a dangerous place from which to view the world. --John le
Carre
russandsandy
Processors.
Just want to help keep the "unknowing" straight.
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SHAMEL JANBEK
Thanks for the correction, from previous readings I was sure it said
1986, but then I can be wrong, CORRECTION I wrote in my statment
'almost 18 years' and not 'over 18'.
Regards,
Shamel Janbek
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Chuck Ackerman
Before the S/38 was the S/3 announced in 1969. Before the S/3 was the S/360
announced in 1963... By your logic we'll end up back at Holerith in 1890.
While a lot of the architecture of the AS/400 and iSeries is based on the
S/38, a lot was also taken from the S/36. The AS/400, in marketing terms,
is not a line extension but an entirely new line.
Also, for accuracy's sake, the S/38 was announced in October 1978, not 1979.
chuck
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Chuck Ackerman
In any event, it was a long, long time ago in a galaxy far away...
chuck
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Kim Kuras
Mike...heard that story many times over. However, I wonder what we're
doing wrong as we've never bought it, stuck it in a closet and forgot
about it. I guess you could call us middle size. I have over 1500
active users (sub second response time) on my corporate system and
fifteen smaller AS/400's (domestic and international) connected
remotely via Frame Relay and VPN. We run Domino as well as
manufaturing and attendance applications on several of the remote
systems. My customers can order products, check order status' etc. by
accessing our website and interfacing to the AS/400. I'm always
loading new products or upgrading existing systems. I'm extermely
active in on-going security at the system and application levels. I
could go on but I think you get my original question...what are we
doing wrong? I could no more forget about my system than I could go
one day without re-booting my PC (at least once).
Perhaps if we (AS/400 - iSeries customers) quit touting this
conception that these systems run by themselves, the outside world may
take this system more seriously! To install any system without
administrative management and strict ongoing controls is financially
ignorant. Any suggestions?
>
> Mike
Kim Kuras
One last comment from my previous posting...if these systems ran by
themselves, we certainly wouldn't need these forums nor would we need
an operations staff, developement staff, security teams, disaster
recovery teams, technical support staff, help desk staff, on-call
staff and on and on and on.
>
> Mike
Vinnie
and had some WMS code written for it. With Y2K, we bought an AS400 170, ran
Virtual36, moved the code and data to the new box and kept on going. I have
4 users - no IT staff or budget to speak of.
The only time we have IPL'd the 400 is when there was a power failure. Oh,
and that's the only time the Virtual36 was IPL'd too... The damn thing is
solid as a rock....
Vin
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Dan Hicks
They slid a new name on top of it. The IMPI processor that the S/38 and
AS/400 shared was more like an S/360 than an S/3. (The S/3 was a direct
ancestor of the S/32 S/34 S/36 line.)
You are right that AS/400 is a marketing term -- by announcing a new
machine IBM was able to revitalize the marketing. It also made it
politically possible internally to spend money on new features for the
box. But it was the same box.
Yes, AS/400 had to absorb a lot of S/36 stuff to do the S/36 platform
support. But that was more for internal marketing than for real use.
Headquarters didn't want to support the S/38, so by selling AS/400 to
them as an S/36 it got more funding.
I guess I'm remembering that S/38 was "reannounced" in 1979, after
shipment had been delayed and several major feature changes made (most
for the worse). The biggest "feature" added at the last minute was a
restructuring of the box as a batch machine vs interactive. This was
done because a survey of S/3 users found that virtually no "interactive
features" had been purchased for S/3. However, it turned out that this
was because folks had figured out how to do interactive processing
without purchasing the expensive "interactive feature" -- most of the
larger S/3 setups were in fact largely interactive. The system has been
playing catchup on this topic ever since.
--
Dan Hicks
A note of music gains significance from the silence on either side. -A
Lindberg
Kim Kuras
> Are you kidding? They do run by themselves. We bought an S/36 in 1980 (?)
> and had some WMS code written for it. With Y2K, we bought an AS400 170, ran
> Virtual36, moved the code and data to the new box and kept on going. I have
> 4 users - no IT staff or budget to speak of.
>
> The only time we have IPL'd the 400 is when there was a power failure. Oh,
> and that's the only time the Virtual36 was IPL'd too... The damn thing is
> solid as a rock....
>
> Vin
>
not just referring to the hardware. I guess with 4 users and no
development, there's not much need for an IT staff. However, go to
the larger systems with thousands of users and tens of thousands of
programs and you'll need the support staff (s) I referred to earlier.
Chuck Ackerman
The S/3 was a direct child of the S/360 model 20. The architecture of the
S/3 and S/360 were as close as the S/38 and AS/400.
I agree on the AS/400 being a child of the S/38, but the S/36 was the other
parent. Hardwarewise the AS/400 was more like the S/38. Ease-of-use wise
the AS/400 was a lot more like the S/36.
chuck
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Chuck Ackerman
My accountant has 6 users running a sophisticated multi-user tax package on
his Windows NT network. It runs all by itself also. The only thing they do
is change the backup tape daily. What does that prove? Small shops need
little attention once they're up and running. Whether its AS/400 or Windows
NT, if they're setup right then they can just run and run and run.
I also agree that a reasonably large shop can be more "unattended" on an
AS/400. I used to be I.T. Director at St. Ives Laboratories which, at that
time, had 3 AS/400s with about 1,000 users running Financials from Lawson,
Manufacturing and Distribution from Friedman and Warehouse Management from
Computer Associates. Do you know how many operations people I had? Zero,
Bupkis, None! The computer room was lights out and just ran and ran and
ran. We only went in once a day to change tapes.
This was a $200 million/year company that shipped about 3-10 million cases
of product per month. I had 4 programmers that managed all of the
programming and 1 PC/LAN person. We were very efficient and automated
everything.
St. Ives was purchased by Alberto Culver in 1996 and the division that
purchased St. Ives was also about $200 million in size. Ironically, they
used a mainframe and needed 40 people to run their I.T. department. My
department was only 6 supporting about the same sized operation.
The moral? The AS/400 environment can be extremely efficient if properly
designed and implemented.
chuck
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Dan Hicks
still had an RX instruction set. Though I don't recall a lot about the
S/3 instruction set, I don't believe it was anything close to an RX
style. You are right, thought, that the mod 20 and the S/3 had a lot of
parts in common -- my recollection is that they essentially used the
same microprogrammed processor, but with a different instruction set
programmed in.
As for "ease of use", that's in the eye of the beholder. The AS/400 got
a lot more irregular from all the "ease" it absorbed from S/36, et al.
The change over from dot to slash for a separator (supposedly done to
make things more familiar for PC users, though I've never understood
how) caused no end of syntactic problems. (Eg, is "/*" the start of a
comment or simply a separator and the first character of a special
value?)
The main "ease of use" feature (of any true value) that was absorbed
from S/36 was auto device configuration, but that could have been done
in a fashion consistent with S/38 vs adding on a whole second
configuration scheme.
--
Dan Hicks
Confusion is a word we have invented for an order which is not
understood. --Henry Miller