V5R4 DVDs?

[Garry Taylor]

Hi all,
OK, I bought a little i515 on eBay, and it has no OS installed. I'd like to change that.

I figure I need a media kit for V5R4, and also Operations Navigator to install on my laptop?

Anyone got a DVD media kit lying around they'd like to sell me?

Thanks

Garry

[Steve Richter]

>
> I figure I need a media kit for V5R4, and also Operations Navigator to install on my laptop?
>
> Anyone got a DVD media kit lying around they'd like to sell me?
>

client access can be downloaded and installed from here:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/i/access/windows_sp.html

[Garry Taylor]

Hi Steve,
Thanks for the link, but that won't install due to not having 'language resources'. I've tried it before on a different computer, I think it expects there to be an older version installed before installing this one.

If you've got a link to the full installer, that would be great.

Thanks

Garry

[dgome...@gmail.com]

That link is for the service packs, you need to have the software already installed first.

[A. Perry Nelson]

Well I hate being the barer of mad news. IBM links the its os to the processor serial number. So if that set of os disk come your way, the software will run only 71 days without the lic keys. That is my problem, i brought a 520, with no DASD or software. I can migrate my 5.4.0 os to that box, but not any of my license software from 810. The 520 will run compiled software code and data on the os only, but again i have to deal both machines. I have come across the software CD, but again it will only run those 71 days. The only work around, u have to remove the cmos batteries, and load the system with the 01012010 date. But every time you want to play with the system, u get 71 days and use that date during ipl. I have heard there is a way, less rootcanel pain, is create DLPAR, and only load the os software over and over on that vitrual DASD, and u can use the correct dates. But i dont know if that box will even run that work around. Plus, does that i5 515 a 9406 or 9407 9405? Dont does that model have user licencing or software keys? Again u get to play for 71 days, which ever way your go. Let me know. If you want to hang that IBM albatross around ur neck. P

[Garry Taylor]

This is largely what I expected, as far as I know, the machine is licensed for V5R4, at least according to an IBM Business Partner, here in Australia. IBM will not supply media for V5R4 though, as it's considered obsolete. I've been told that IBM has no objection to be sourcing a used DVD media set though.

It's a 9407 machine, and right now, 71 days is fine for me, at least I can prove the machine works and then talk to IBM about getting onto V6R1 or even V7R1.

I am an ISV (in a very small way) and a member of PartnerWorld, IBM seem willing to hear me out on cheapish licenses for OS and compilers, but right now, I need to make sure this machine even works, and a V5R4 media pack would do just that.

I know it's going to be a battle, and licensing is going to be a real challenge, but I think I need to start at the beginning and see if I can even load an OS onto it, even if it's just for 71 days.

If you have V5R4 DVDs, then I'll gladly buy them from you, along with shipping to Australia.

Thanks

Garry

[A. Perry Nelson]

On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 11:52:29 PM UTC-4, Garry Taylor wrote:

i can iso them and email, since u only wanting the very basic, the first three dvd's, and the iAccess for windows, the rest u seem to be able to get from your supplier. Since my days and nights are all squirrel up, i try to work on that for you, maybe u can scratch my back since im able to do yours back. Have you ever installed a complete a total system setup? Let me k now. P

[Garry Taylor]

I've never done an install of an iSeries before, only ever used other people's machines and I once owned a 9401/150 which came with everything installed.

ISO images would be fantastic, happy to pay for your time, or repay the favour somehow.

[A. Perry Nelson]

On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 11:52:29 PM UTC-4, Garry Taylor wrote:

whats the email, and where in AU is your time zone? That way i can send during the day, while im sleeping, and your night for the best connection speed. im only on 3meg cheepo internet speed. Due to the fact i live in GIG City, we cant get fiberOP, in this apt but my apt will let the tv company, someone is getting their palms greased. So I have slow cable modem, on a educational budget. I need an email address or a ftp site to do the uploads. What are u going to use for your console? twinax, operconsole, or HMC. Make sure your email can handle a file why over a gig. Im trying to find which cd will have the tcpip software, but it usually is loaded when u do the entire system software load. Maybe someone can tell me which one i need to rip it off. Well its 730am and i must get in my coffin before that sun comes over the mountain. P

[Garry Taylor]

I'm in Melbourne, Victoria, however, my GMail I think is not going to be able to handle over a GB of attachment, would it be possible for you to upload onto Dropbox or Amazon S3 or something? I can provide an Amazon S3 bucket.

My email is taylor DOT garry AT gmail DOT com, if S3 or something is OK, email me and I'll send you details.

Thanks a lot

Garry

[A. Perry Nelson]

On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 11:52:29 PM UTC-4, Garry Taylor wrote:

u tell me...i have to look into that, which i think its a ftp site of some what. i try to figuar it out. give me the url's P

[Garry Taylor]

Sure, can you send me an email to taylor DOT garry AT gmail DOT com, and I'll reply with access details.

Cheers

Garry

[A. Perry Nelson]

u get my email? you're 14 hours ahead chattanooga tennessee 1:45a here. P

[Garry Taylor]

Got it, it ended up in spam for some reason...

[Chad Goodman]

Garry - v5r4
https://archive.org/details/ibm_i5os_V5R4_5722-SS1

[p...@pocnet.net]

Hmm, I wonder why the original message from Garr Taylor didn't get through.

Last time I checked you could download each OS release starting with V5R4
directly from IBM ESS.

All you need is a (free) IBM ID. With that you can access "demo and evaluation
software".

:wq! PoC

[Chad Goodman]

p....@poc.net
you know, maybe it did get through - maybe it didnt, i cant remember
what was the point of your message? to point out that maybe i didnt read the entire thread? or i cant read? or i have no reading comprehension?

bottom line, i have brain cancer, and i have good days and bad days, and bad days on top of chemo to make worse days
i feel like your message was a dig at me like i said above. Maybe if you had a problem with my message, send me an email???
not post it in public like i am doing now.

there are days i may had read the thread and forgot what i read due to my cancer. I do not expect anyone to feel sorry for me, but common courtesy towards everyone goes a long way.
i came across v5r4 at archive.org a while back, and figured i would post it.
even if the message in question did get through, what does it hurt to have more than one resource to access some files??? maybe the OP is in a country where IBM wont allow an account?
who know if IBM even monitors user locations.. I tried to help the OP and guess what, I will continue to help anyone i can even if a valid answer was posted in the thread, what does a 2nd answer hurt?
seriously

~Chad

[p...@pocnet.net]

Chad Goodman <chad.g...@gmail.com> wrote:

> you know, maybe it did get through - maybe it didnt, i cant remember

It wasn't getting through to me, but that was not your fault at all. The
message was from a completely different person.

> what was the point of your message? to point out that maybe i didnt read the
> entire thread? or i cant read? or i have no reading comprehension?

Garry Taylor was asking for the V5R4 release of I5/OS. You pointed him to
archive.org. I expanded on that by pointing out you can *also* download V5R4
directly from IBM the last time I checked.

There is no blame I intended to put onto you. I was just using your message to
pick up the thread since the original message from Garry Taylor was not
available to me to follow-up to.

> bottom line, i have brain cancer, and i have good days and bad days, and bad
> days on top of chemo to make worse days i feel like your message was a dig
> at me like i said above. Maybe if you had a problem with my message, send
> me an email??? not post it in public like i am doing now.

Complete misunderstanding. First, my condolences about your condition. Second,
I have no idea how you come up with the idea I was taking a dig at you,
whatever that means. I'm not a native English speaker. Even after reviewing my
message in context with yours, I simply do not understand where you see
discourtesy.

Bottom line, no offense meant at all.

> there are days i may had read the thread and forgot what i read due to my
> cancer. I do not expect anyone to feel sorry for me, but common courtesy
> towards everyone goes a long way.

First: Nobody can know about your condition beforehand.

Second: I completely cannot understand where you see lack of common courtesy
in my message just pointing out an alternate download location. I didn't write
insults or anything similar.

> i came across v5r4 at archive.org a while back, and figured i would post it.
> even if the message in question did get through, what does it hurt to have
> more than one resource to access some files???

I completely agree. For that reason I gave a *second* resource to access those
files. How could that hurt, as you say.

Btw., the OP's message wasn't getting through to me, not yours. How could I
refer to your message when it wasn't there?

> maybe the OP is in a country where IBM wont allow an account? who know if
> IBM even monitors user locations..

I counter with "I have accessed software on archive.org earlier and sometimes
it was either incomplete or I was unable to restore the data to physical media
because of missing information/metadata".

Besides that: What does it help to assume limitations of the OP, playing "what
if"? He might have told or can follow-up. I was throwing my answer out like
you did: To help. Nothing less, nothing more.

> I tried to help the OP and guess what, I will continue to help anyone i can
> even if a valid answer was posted in the thread, what does a 2nd answer
> hurt? seriously

That's a good thing to do and I completely agree.

In that thread I have not seen a "first answer". There was the OPs question
(which wasn't available on my news server), and your answer. On which I
answered to not break the chain of message references/thread.

You assume I had bad intentions with my post, which I did not have. With all
respect about your condition but I assert it's not the best of ideas to assume
some arbitrary stranger picking on you deliberately, out of the blue, for no
apparent reason. At least this seems weird to me. Please consider a more
positive approach by assuming what often is the case when people communicate:
A simple misunderstanding might have happened. It's common common courtesy to
politely ask, maybe send me an email and not unload your anger on me publicly.

Thank you for your understanding.

:wq! PoC

[Chad Goodman]

I was wrong and out of line by posting this in a public forum - i will explain to you in detail why i felt the way i did, email me @ chad.goodman at gmail.com and i will respond -i disrailed this thread enough

~sorry all