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mikemo

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May 11, 2007, 9:32:55 PM5/11/07
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I was very excited to learn about the new hp-50g and the improvements
that were made, particularly with the keyboard. I bought a 49g but
didn't like it. I avoided the 49g+ because of the keyboard problems.

Well, wouldn't you know that when my new hp-50g arrived today that the
keyboard is defective. When you press the "9" key, you hear and feel
the mechanical click, but it doesn't register the number. If you press
the key much harder, a nine will register.

Has anyone else had problems like this with the hp-50g?

BTW, HP support was quick and very helpful with getting this fixed.
Regards,
Mike M.

Joe Horn

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May 12, 2007, 5:32:50 AM5/12/07
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> Well, wouldn't you know that when my new hp-50g arrived today that the
> keyboard is defective. When you press the "9" key, you hear and feel
> the mechanical click, but it doesn't register the number. If you press
> the key much harder, a nine will register.
>
> Has anyone else had problems like this with the hp-50g?

No! So, KEEP it! It's a massively unique collector's item!!!

;-)

Seriously, though, thanks for letting us (the user community) know,
because that's the only way that we can keep tabs on HP's *outsourced*
quality control. I hope that incidents like yours will be rare. So
far, HP's been doing extraordinarily well with the HP 50g, but it
would be unreasonable to expect them *never* to happen, because "there
ain't nuthin perfect in this here world."

-Joe-

hugh

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May 12, 2007, 6:34:21 AM5/12/07
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its good that this has been fixed for you.

personally, i think the 50 keyboard is ok, not as good as their keyboards used to be
but definitely acceptable.

the one point i had with the 50 is that i found the keyboard delay unacceptable.
for example, if i typed 1200 fast, it would come out as 120. turns out this is a software
thing and ->keytime of 500 (in my case) fixes it. the default is over 1000 which i find
too long. it's a pity this cant be in flash since currently, it reverts
to factory default on reset.

good luck,

John H Meyers

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May 12, 2007, 8:35:39 AM5/12/07
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 05:34:21 -0500, hugh wrote:

> The one point i had with the 50


> is that i found the keyboard delay unacceptable.

> For example, if i typed 1200 fast, it would come out as 120.
> It turns out this is a software thing


> and ->keytime of 500 (in my case) fixes it.

> The default is over 1000 which i find too long.
> It's a pity this can't be in flash since currently,


> it reverts to factory default on reset.

This is where 'STARTUP' comes in;
if you store a program into that name in HOME,
said program is run automatically, right after every "warmstart";
you can put your 500 \->KEYTIME commands into that program,
as well as anything else which you'd like to set up,
e.g. flags, key assignments (in lieu of relying on
whatever was previously saved, which might have included
temporary assignments, and will always be lost during
any "Recover memory"), go to your favorite directory,
display your name for identification of lost/stolen calc,
play tones to simulate Windows startup, etc.

[r->] [OFF]

hugh

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May 12, 2007, 3:08:03 PM5/12/07
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thanks for the info. that should help out for most normal situtations.

however, i keep hard resetting my unit, so it probably wont survive that.

the hard reset is due to my own programs which frequently crash whilst in
development :-)

Tom Lake

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May 12, 2007, 3:26:39 PM5/12/07
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"hugh" <spam.sau...@spamcafe.com> wrote in message
news:op.tr793piv6y8w4k@cod...

>
>
> thanks for the info. that should help out for most normal situtations.
>
> however, i keep hard resetting my unit, so it probably wont survive that.
>
> the hard reset is due to my own programs which frequently crash whilst in
> development :-)

Looks like a job for an emulator! 8^)

Tom Lake


John H Meyers

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May 12, 2007, 7:06:22 PM5/12/07
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 14:08:03 -0500, hugh wrote:

> [STARTUP program] should help out for most normal situtations.


>
> however, i keep hard resetting my unit, so it probably wont survive that.

That's what backup is for, e.g.

:2:BK001 ARCHIVE @ backup to flash port 2 (3 for SD card)
[crash!!!]
:2:BK001 RESTORE @ complete recovery!

In the emulator,
Edit > Backup > Save [saves calc RAM image in PC RAM]
[crash!!!]
Edit > Backup > Restore [complete recovery!]

ARCHIVE/RESTORE backups may also be made in emulator
(and then restored to a real calc, or vice versa,
thus keeping an emulator in sync with a calculator)

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John H Meyers

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May 12, 2007, 7:39:46 PM5/12/07
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[re backup/recovery via ARCHIVE/RESTORE]

By the way, a RESTORE automatically warmstarts at the end,
so your restored STARTUP program will automatically execute.

So now you have no excuse not to make backups :)

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Joe Horn

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May 13, 2007, 7:24:19 AM5/13/07
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John H Meyers wrote:

> That's what backup is for

Exactly! I have a Backup Everything key assignment, and I press it
every time I'm about to do anything dangerous. Then when memory gets
nuked, I can recover everything in FOUR KEYSTROKES (can anybody beat
that?):

LEFT-SHIFT, FILES, 1, EVAL.

Just put your recovery program at the top of port 1, and you're in
business.

-Joe-

John H Meyers

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May 13, 2007, 11:47:58 AM5/13/07
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 06:24:19 -0500, Joe Horn wrote:

> when memory gets nuked,
> I can recover everything in FOUR KEYSTROKES
> (can anybody beat that?)

Edit, Backup, Restore :)

[on Emu48, that is!]

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