"New" 49 in the works?
Ben Hocker
forthcoming due to the lack of an IR port and other features (memory cards).
I am aware of the reasoning behind leaving these extras out, but for
applications other than exam writing (survey data collector for instance),
this can be a drawback. I am impressed by the machine's capabilities and
speed, but would not want to buy one then have a "GX" model come out. Has
anyone else heard anything about this? My beat up old 48GX is badly in need
of replacement!
Ben
Please reply to the address below or on this newsgroup
bho...@direct.ca
kou...@my-deja.com
"Ben Hocker" <bhocker<NOSPAM>@direct.ca> wrote:
> I have heard (from a fairly reliable source) that a new version of the
49 is
> forthcoming due to the lack of an IR port and other features (memory
cards).
> I am aware of the reasoning behind leaving these extras out, but for
> applications other than exam writing (survey data collector for
instance),
> this can be a drawback. I am impressed by the machine's capabilities
and
> speed, but would not want to buy one then have a "GX" model come out.
Has
> anyone else heard anything about this? My beat up old 48GX is badly in
need
> of replacement!
Isn't the HP49GX supposed to be released the next year ?
I hope that this calc will have an IR port and a faster SATURN.
> Ben
> Please reply to the address below or on this newsgroup
> bho...@direct.ca
>
>
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Before you buy.
Des Aubery
If this is true, will HP take an HP49G in as a trade-in, or at least provide
a huge discount?
If HP do actually bring out a new unit and don't reasonably compensate all
the current batch of "beta test users" ie. all current purchasers, then they
will never be able to recover an already extremely tarnished reputation.
To have to put up with such a poor machine as the current model, and then
only to have it replaced a year later by a decent machine would really be
too much to accept. This would test most serious users' patience.
Best regards,
Des Aubery...
<kou...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:83dekr$n56$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
Barry
filled either one. I shouldn't have bothered with the 2 meg card.
If they come out with a 49GX with infrared I'll be interested since I have
the little infrared printer and I miss using it. But if it just takes
memory cards I think I'll keep the 49G and be satisfied. This is a great
little machine.
Actually, the improvement I'd like most to see is a debugger. That was a
silly thing to leave out.
Barry
Des Aubery <dau...@mweb.co.za> wrote in message
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aven...@epita.fr
Hello.
I would glad to know your "fairly reliable source"...
And also, what is you definition of fairly...
As a matter of fact, I consider myself and people working with me
as: "failry reliable source" for everything related to HP calculators..
And I strongly doubt that your "source" is part of the above population
Cheers
Jean-Yves
In article <m%i64.9785$X47....@quark.idirect.com>,
"Ben Hocker" <bhocker<NOSPAM>@direct.ca> wrote:
> I have heard (from a fairly reliable source) that a new version of
the 49 is
> forthcoming due to the lack of an IR port and other features (memory
cards).
> I am aware of the reasoning behind leaving these extras out, but for
> applications other than exam writing (survey data collector for
instance),
> this can be a drawback. I am impressed by the machine's capabilities
and
> speed, but would not want to buy one then have a "GX" model come out.
Has
> anyone else heard anything about this? My beat up old 48GX is badly
in need
> of replacement!
>
Homer Simpson
>And also, what is you definition of fairly...
...But you didn't say anything you know about a future calculator.
Homer Simpson
http://zap.to/hsimpson
Tim Dixon
wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>If this is true, will HP take an HP49G in as a trade-in, or at least provide
>a huge discount?
>
>If HP do actually bring out a new unit and don't reasonably compensate all
>the current batch of "beta test users" ie. all current purchasers, then they
>will never be able to recover an already extremely tarnished reputation.
>
Why? If the current unit is unacceptable, that's a problem unto
itself. Coming out with a new model doesn't make all the existing
models suddenly stop working (were they working to begin with?
<grin>).
Oh well. I'm still using a '486 and a 48, and driving a 1989 car; I
guess I'm just not the upgrading type. :-)
Stephen J Thomas
Oh Jeez, I can't believe these stupid "new model / there better be an
upgrade program" postings are starting already. The 49G hasn't even
been out 4 months yet [in the US].
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:00:43 +0100, "Des Aubery" <dau...@mweb.co.za>
wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>If this is true, will HP take an HP49G in as a trade-in, or at least provide
>a huge discount?
>
>If HP do actually bring out a new unit and don't reasonably compensate all
>the current batch of "beta test users" ie. all current purchasers, then they
>will never be able to recover an already extremely tarnished reputation.
>
>To have to put up with such a poor machine as the current model, and then
>only to have it replaced a year later by a decent machine would really be
>too much to accept. This would test most serious users' patience.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Des Aubery...
>
>
><kou...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:83dekr$n56$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>> In article <m%i64.9785$X47....@quark.idirect.com>,
>> "Ben Hocker" <bhocker<NOSPAM>@direct.ca> wrote:
>> > I have heard (from a fairly reliable source) that a new version of the
>> 49 is
>> > forthcoming due to the lack of an IR port and other features (memory
>> cards).
>> > I am aware of the reasoning behind leaving these extras out, but for
>> > applications other than exam writing (survey data collector for
>> instance),
>> > this can be a drawback. I am impressed by the machine's capabilities
>> and
>> > speed, but would not want to buy one then have a "GX" model come out.
>> Has
>> > anyone else heard anything about this? My beat up old 48GX is badly in
>> need
>> > of replacement!
>>
>> Isn't the HP49GX supposed to be released the next year ?
>> I hope that this calc will have an IR port and a faster SATURN.
>>
>> > Ben
>> > Please reply to the address below or on this newsgroup
>> > bho...@direct.ca
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> Before you buy.
>
S...@LikeEyeCare.com
SJTho...@aol.com
Kim DeVaughn
Homer Simpson <hsam...@lemel.fr> wrote:
|
| >I would glad to know your "fairly reliable source"...
| >And also, what is you definition of fairly...
|
| ...But you didn't say anything you know about a future calculator.
It's what has come to be known as a "non-denial denial", which more-
or-less has its roots in the US political scene.
/kim
===========================================================================
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman ... Miss Lewinsky ..."
--William Jefferson "BJ" Clinton (1/26/98)
Wayne Brown
>
> Oh Jeez, I can't believe these stupid "new model / there better be an
> upgrade program" postings are starting already. The 49G hasn't even
> been out 4 months yet [in the US].
Well, I was wishing for a new model about two minutes after the first
time I saw a 49G. If they'd just put the 49G software inside a 48GX
case and get rid of the algebraic mode (or, if they HAVE to keep it, at
least make RPN the default) then I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
--
Wayne Brown | "When your tail's in a crack, you improvise
fwb...@bellsouth.net | if you're good enough. Otherwise you give
http://betsyrandle.cjb.net | your pelt to the trapper."
http://urbmyth.cjb.net | -- John Myers Myers, "Silverlock"
J.R. Chaffer
If current HP performance is any indicator, this will simply be another
dump of a buggy, poorly documented (or rather, undocumented) piece
of junk, with which HP trades on its (former) good name.
Look elsewhere, pal, unless you love frustration.
jrc
"Ben Hocker
> I have heard (from a fairly reliable source) that a new version of the 49 is
> forthcoming due to the lack of an IR port and other features (memory cards).
> I am aware of the reasoning behind leaving these extras out, but for
> applications other than exam writing (survey data collector for instance),
> this can be a drawback. I am impressed by the machine's capabilities and
> speed, but would not want to buy one then have a "GX" model come out. Has
> anyone else heard anything about this? My beat up old 48GX is badly in need
> of replacement!
>
Barry
news:385ACA85...@bellsouth.net...
>
> Well, I was wishing for a new model about two minutes after the first
> time I saw a 49G. If they'd just put the 49G software inside a 48GX
> case and get rid of the algebraic mode (or, if they HAVE to keep it, at
> least make RPN the default) then I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
I made RPN the default in my 49G 10 minutes after I got it.
Barry
Rod O'Connor
I'm still using Win for Workgroups 3.11 on a 486/33 and a 48GX and love
both. And I have a '92 car. Slow to upgrade also! <g>
Rod
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Tim Dixon <tdix...@spam.fwi.com> wrote in message
news:385a9a6b...@10.1.1.28...
> On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:00:43 +0100, "Des Aubery" <dau...@mweb.co.za>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >If this is true, will HP take an HP49G in as a trade-in, or at least
provide
> >a huge discount?
> >
> >If HP do actually bring out a new unit and don't reasonably compensate
all
> >the current batch of "beta test users" ie. all current purchasers, then
they
> >will never be able to recover an already extremely tarnished reputation.
> >
>
Chuck Dinsmore
wondering. It used to happen all the time waaaaayy back a long time ago,
but now it is electronic. ;-||
<aven...@epita.fr> wrote in message news:83e0sm$563$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
>
> Hello.
>
> I would glad to know your "fairly reliable source"...
> And also, what is you definition of fairly...
>
> As a matter of fact, I consider myself and people working with me
> as: "failry reliable source" for everything related to HP calculators..
>
> And I strongly doubt that your "source" is part of the above population
>
> Cheers
> Jean-Yves
>
>
>
> In article <m%i64.9785$X47....@quark.idirect.com>,
> "Ben Hocker" <bhocker<NOSPAM>@direct.ca> wrote:
> > I have heard (from a fairly reliable source) that a new version of
> the 49 is
> > forthcoming due to the lack of an IR port and other features (memory
> cards).
> > I am aware of the reasoning behind leaving these extras out, but for
> > applications other than exam writing (survey data collector for
> instance),
> > this can be a drawback. I am impressed by the machine's capabilities
> and
> > speed, but would not want to buy one then have a "GX" model come out.
> Has
> > anyone else heard anything about this? My beat up old 48GX is badly
> in need
> > of replacement!
> >
> > Ben
> > Please reply to the address below or on this newsgroup
> > bho...@direct.ca
> >
> >
>
>
Wayne Brown
>
> I made RPN the default in my 49G 10 minutes after I got it.
Yes, but it didn't come that way out of the box, and if you ever reset
it to the factory defaults, it'll go back to algebraic mode. Granted,
this isn't a usability issue, it's more a philosophical choice. For
over a decade I've been telling people that HP uses RPN in its high-end
calculators because it's clearly superior to any other input method.
Now, their top-of-the-line new calc not only includes algebraic mode, it
makes it the default! I know the reasons: HP wants to attract people
who are familiar with other brands (mainly TI) and who aren't
comfortable with RPN (or maybe even intimidated by it). It seems like
"selling out" to me. Once upon a time, the HP image was "Ours is
better, and if you don't agree, you're not our kind of customer -- go
somewhere else." Now it seems to be "You like TI? OK, we'll be just
like them." I feel the same way about RPN as many people feel about
their favorite football team -- every other team is the enemy and
compromise is out of the question. An HP scientific calculator that
favors algebraic over RPN looks too much like fraternizing with the
enemy. Even OFFERING algebraic mode is mildly offensive to me, let
alone making it the default!
Still, if they'd just get rid of that horrible New Age case and put it
in something with the dignified styling and colors of the classic HP
calculators (AND a decent keyboard!) then I could learn to live with its
second-class citizen status for RPN (as long as it remains available).
I want something that looks like it belongs in the pocket of a lab coat,
not in a Mountain Dew commercial.
(Oh, in case anyone's wondering, I'm not bothered at all by the reported
problems with the CAS. The ACO appears to be very interested in
listening to users and very quick to bring out bug fixes and
enhancements. I see the 49G as a beautiful soul trapped in a very ugly
body.)
Barry
what you like. Others should use what they like. I'm not offended that
it's there and that it comes set for CAS when i take it out of the box.
I've never bought a computer in my life, as far as I can recall, that I
didn't spend a little time adjusting to suit my tastes. This is just more
of the same.
By the way, since it is in flash, I'm sure that with sufficient research you
can probably find a way to exorcise the CAS stuff from your calc or at least
make it the default.
Barry
Wayne Brown <fwb...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Steen S. Schmidt
>what you like. Others should use what they like. I'm not offended that
>it's there and that it comes set for CAS when i take it out of the box.
>
>I've never bought a computer in my life, as far as I can recall, that I
>didn't spend a little time adjusting to suit my tastes. This is just more
>of the same.
>
>By the way, since it is in flash, I'm sure that with sufficient research
you
>can probably find a way to exorcise the CAS stuff from your calc or at
least
>make it the default.
I'm sure you mean Algebraic mode, not CAS (Computer Algebra System)?
Regards
Steen
Jeff Sumner
networks and no need for Internet connectivity, and consider myself
efficient with my computing needs. Whatever works well and efficiently,
right? Did buy an HP49, though...
JD
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