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Gregorio Muńoz

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Dec 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/23/99
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Two months ago i found this group and just want to say "
thank you" to all people that help us with your articles.
Thanks to A.C.O, great work...You have all our support and
we hope your better work to make the best calculator of
this world...
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL....AND HAPPY NEW MILENIUM...
Gregorio ..from Colombia.


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Jeff Sumner

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Dec 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/24/99
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In a year, for the millennium, right?
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Georg Zotti

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Gregorio Munoz <greg...@usa.net> wrote:
: MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL....AND HAPPY NEW MILENIUM...
: Gregorio ..from Colombia.

Once again... the second millennium (A.D.) won't be over
before the year 2000 is over.

The calendar was defined to start with year 1, so a millennium
includes the closing x000.

To compare: There are 20 bottles in a beer cage. The last
bottle is number 20, right? The next cage starts with #21.

Anyway, yes, Merry Xmas, and a happy year 2000.
--
Georg Zotti, e912...@student.tuwien.ac.at


Keith J. Farmer

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Dec 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/24/99
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Joseph K. Horn <joe...@jps.net> wrote in message
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> Just because it isn't precisely the beginning of the "Third Millennium"
> is no reason not to have a blow-out New Millennium party!!! ;-)

If it lasts the whole year, it'll be worthwhile.

Joseph K. Horn

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Dec 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/25/99
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Everybody keeps saying that 1/1/2000 doesn't begin a new millennium.

That's 100% pure hooey. And here's why.

A millennium is a thousand years, right?

Therefore, EVERY MOMENT begins a new millennium (and ends an old one).
For example, from the very moment that you read this to 1000 years ago
was precisely one millennium, and the time from NOW until exactly 1000
years hence is also precisely one millennium.

Therefore, the first moment of the year 2000 will also begin a new
millennium.

Just because it isn't precisely the beginning of the "Third Millennium"
is no reason not to have a blow-out New Millennium party!!! ;-)

-Joe-
I believe in the two-party system, especially when there's a designated
driver.


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Diego Berge

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Dec 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/25/99
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On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 00:00:37 GMT, Joseph K. Horn <joe...@jps.net>
wrote:

> I believe in the two-party system, especially when there's a designated
> driver.

<lol> -- and happy hollidays to all.

Regards,
Diego Berge.


Georg Zotti

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Dec 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/26/99
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Joseph K. Horn <joe...@jps.net> wrote:
: A millennium is a thousand years, right?

: Therefore, EVERY MOMENT begins a new millennium (and ends an old one).

Hey, I said A.D., which should be clear enough.
Anyway, we are in (or near) 2752 A.U.C., or 1420 Islamic,
or 5760 Jewish, or, if I have it right,
today's Mayan Long Count is 12.19.6.14.16.

Party whatever you want, whenever you want.
Celebrate that round number (in our modern decadic system).

--
Georg Zotti, e912...@student.tuwien.ac.at


Keith J. Farmer

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Dec 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/27/99
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Veli-Pekka Nousiainen <v...@fcs.fi> wrote in message
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> What Driver? 2-party??

They're making fun of the US government, with the Republican and Democratic
parties. The joke is that they're also referring to the type of party where
you get remarkably drunk. The designated driver is the guy who's not
supposed to drink alcohol, who drives the car to get to the parties.

Veli-Pekka Nousiainen

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Dec 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/28/99
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Hi, Joe and Diego !

I didn't get it???
<col> as Crying Out Loud
What Driver? 2-party??
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Diego Berge <dbe...@geocities.com> wrote in message
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!> On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 00:00:37 GMT, Joseph K. Horn <joe...@jps.net>
!> wrote:
!>
!> > I believe in the two-party system, especially when there's a designated
!> > driver.
!>
!> <lol> -- and happy hollidays to all.
!>
!> Regards,
!> Diego Berge.
!>

aven...@epita.fr

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Dec 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/28/99
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Hello Joe.

another explanation that lays within your own explanation, is that you
start counting bottles from 1, not 0 (zero).

As a matter of fact, the 0 was invented hundred of years after J.C died
(or was born I can't remember !!!)
So it couldn't have been used for the first year.
Therefore the first year was Year 1, therefore 2001 will be the year of
a new millennium.. But everybody except marketing people know that.

Jean-Yves


In article <8411a5$u97$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,


Joseph K. Horn <joe...@jps.net> wrote:

> Everybody keeps saying that 1/1/2000 doesn't begin a new millennium.
>
> That's 100% pure hooey. And here's why.
>

> A millennium is a thousand years, right?
>
> Therefore, EVERY MOMENT begins a new millennium (and ends an old one).

> For example, from the very moment that you read this to 1000 years ago
> was precisely one millennium, and the time from NOW until exactly 1000
> years hence is also precisely one millennium.
>
> Therefore, the first moment of the year 2000 will also begin a new
> millennium.
>
> Just because it isn't precisely the beginning of the "Third
Millennium"
> is no reason not to have a blow-out New Millennium party!!! ;-)
>
> -Joe-

> I believe in the two-party system, especially when there's a
designated

Georg Zotti

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aven...@epita.fr wrote:

: As a matter of fact, the 0 was invented hundred of years after J.C died


: (or was born I can't remember !!!)

Those 35+ years are short, compared to the 1100 years or so that passed
before the 0 was brought to Europe (from India, via arab merchants and
scientists). It was clearly long after Dionysius Exiguus started
counting the years A.D. (with some years' error; late 6th century, AFAIR).

--
Georg Zotti, e912...@student.tuwien.ac.at


Keith J. Farmer

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Dec 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/28/99
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"Diego Berge" <dbe...@geocities.com> wrote in message
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> Keith, I believe the problem is not in getting _to_ the parties (at
> least not to the first one of them :)

You obviously haven't heard of the traditional
get-smashed-before-the-first-party party

Al Arduengo

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Dec 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/28/99
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I disagree that 2001 is the first year of the millenium. Based on our
calendar, the first 365 days _after_ Christ died is 0 a.d. which was the
first year of the last millenium. ie the decades start with 0 and end in
9.

-Al
aven...@epita.fr writes:

> Hello Joe.
>
> another explanation that lays within your own explanation, is that you
> start counting bottles from 1, not 0 (zero).
>

> As a matter of fact, the 0 was invented hundred of years after J.C died
> (or was born I can't remember !!!)

Diego Berge

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Dec 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/29/99
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Keith, I believe the problem is not in getting _to_ the parties (at


least not to the first one of them :)

Regards,
Diego Berge.


Veli-Pekka Nousiainen

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I see...said the blind man !
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Diego Berge <dbe...@geocities.com> wrote in message
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!> On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 19:37:20 -0800, "Keith J. Farmer"
!> <far...@pacbell.net> wrote:
!>
!> > Veli-Pekka Nousiainen <v...@fcs.fi> wrote in message
!> > news:848sng$m71$3...@tron.sci.fi...
!> > > What Driver? 2-party??
!> >
!> > They're making fun of the US government, with the Republican and
Democratic
!> > parties. The joke is that they're also referring to the type of party
where
!> > you get remarkably drunk. The designated driver is the guy who's not
!> > supposed to drink alcohol, who drives the car to get to the parties.
!>
!> Keith, I believe the problem is not in getting _to_ the parties (at
!> least not to the first one of them :)


!>
!> Regards,
!> Diego Berge.
!>

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> "Diego Berge" <dbe...@geocities.com> wrote in message
> news:3869547...@news.iddeo.es...

> > Keith, I believe the problem is not in getting _to_ the parties (at
> > least not to the first one of them :)
>

Georg Zotti

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Dec 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/29/99
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Al Arduengo <ex...@texas.net> wrote:
: I disagree that 2001 is the first year of the millenium. Based on our

: calendar, the first 365 days _after_ Christ died is 0 a.d. which was the
: first year of the last millenium. ie the decades start with 0 and end in
: 9.

: -Al
Sorry, but: Are you kidding? Making 4 mistakes in your statement?
We start years in January, not at Easter.
A.D.=Anno Domini, also called P.C.N.=Post Christum Natum, i.e. after Christ's birth.
There was no zero when the calendar was defined.
Spell millennium with 2 n, will you? (derived from "Annus" = year) =8-O

(Getting increasingly off topic, sorry, and have a good new year.)
--
Georg Zotti, e912...@student.tuwien.ac.at


Isaac Tipton

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"Veli-Pekka Nousiainen" <v...@fcs.fi> wrote in message
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> I see...said the blind man !

To his deaf wife

Keith Farmer

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Georg Zotti wrote:
>
> Al Arduengo <ex...@texas.net> wrote:
> : I disagree that 2001 is the first year of the millenium. Based on our
> : calendar, the first 365 days _after_ Christ died is 0 a.d. which was the
> : first year of the last millenium. ie the decades start with 0 and end in
> : 9.
>
> : -Al
> Sorry, but: Are you kidding? Making 4 mistakes in your statement?
> We start years in January, not at Easter.
> A.D.=Anno Domini, also called P.C.N.=Post Christum Natum, i.e. after Christ's birth.

A lot of american kids were raised thinking 'AD' was "after death", in
which case, the calendar is off by some 40 years, and being in Latin,
the abbreviation would be 'PM' (post-mortem, or some spelling like that)
-- confusing since we use ante meridian and post meridian already for
time, leaving noon and midnight in dubious positions.

"Anno Domini" is "Year of the Lord", used in the same way as "Year of
King Bun-Bun's Reign" -- it's measure of years in progress, not years
elapsed. You wouldn't, for example, say "Zero'th Year of the Lord", but
you *would* say "First Year of the Lord". Remember that there is no
Zero in the Roman numbering system, which was in use.

Here's how they're related:

1st Year 2nd 3rd
--|----------+----------+----------+---->
0y elapsed 1yo 2yo 3yo

The calendar uses the upper notation; birthdays and stopwatches use the
lower. I have, for example, lived a few months more than 26 years; I
am, however, in my 27th year since birth. After I had completed my
first 10 years of life, I was in my 11th year; after completing my first
2000 (may I never see such a day), I will be in my 2001st.

Homer Simpson

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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>I disagree that 2001 is the first year of the millenium.


I disagree that 1999 is in the twentieth century. According to its first two
digits, it's in the nineteenth century. Right?

Oh well, we have to agree on some things, although there is always another
consistent way of seeing things. The conventions seems to be that the "third
millenium" and the "twenty-first century" begin in 2001...

Homer Simpson
http://zap.to/hsimpson

Lance Reichert -- The NameMaster

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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>Therefore the first year was Year 1, therefore 2001 will be the year of
>a new millennium.. But everybody except marketing people know that.

Ah, but the marketing people *do* know that. They just know a 2-fer
when they see one.

Y'see, this way they can have end-of-the-millennium sales both this year
*and* next year. They figger that no one in the mass market has a long
enough memory to correct them when they say that "everybody *else*"
thought 2000 was the beginning of the Third Millennium.

Lance ==)-----------

Veli-Pekka Nousiainen

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Quite right !
BTW: Did you see the movie "Space Odyssey 2001"
with IBM - Imean HAL mainframe?

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Veli-Pekka Nousiainen

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Homer Simpson

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>>Therefore the first year was Year 1, therefore 2001 will be the year of
>>a new millennium.. But everybody except marketing people know that.
>Ah, but the marketing people *do* know that. They just know a 2-fer
>when they see one.
>[...] this way they can have end-of-the-millennium sales both this year
>*and* next year. [...]


That's what I had thought a while after having read that post. They know
they can take our money twice for the same price!

>Lance ==)-----------

cool! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Homer Simpson
http://zap.to/hsimpson


Homer Simpson

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>>>I disagree that 2001 is the first year of the millenium.
>> I disagree that 1999 is in the twentieth century
>Quite right !
>BTW: Did you see the movie "Space Odyssey 2001"
>with IBM - Imean HAL mainframe?

Not yet. But Stanley Kubrick's "2001: A Space Odyssey" is a movie I'd love
to see.

Homer Simpson
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fr_even

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Thank you very much, but the millenium is in one year. (we
begon to count at 1,2,3,4... The zero year didn't exist.
So, the millenium is in 2001. ( like the century )

But thanks again!

Jim diGriz

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fr_even <francois_e...@hotmail.com.invalid> writes

>
>Thank you very much, but the millenium is in one year. (we
>begon to count at 1,2,3,4... The zero year didn't exist.
>So, the millenium is in 2001. ( like the century )
>
>But thanks again!

Unless of course you use Common Era dates (CE) rather than AD/BC, in
which there *is* a year 0!

Happy 2000 anyway, whatever it is! :-)

jd
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Barry

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fr_even <francois_e...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Thank you very much, but the millenium is in one year. (we
> begon to count at 1,2,3,4... The zero year didn't exist.
> So, the millenium is in 2001. ( like the century )

I disagree. We've just had our millenium celebration. The definition has
been changed by popular vote. Practically everybody we know think's we're
in the next millenium as of now. They've mostly all heard arguments to the
contrary and believed them and just not cared. They're wearing glasses
shaped like the number 2000.

I suggest we give in since the whole issue is pretty indefinite anyway.
Either that or begin a holy war to force the world to accept our more
rational view.

Barry


Georg Zotti

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Barry <bar...@yahoo.com> wrote:

: I suggest we give in since the whole issue is pretty indefinite anyway.


: Either that or begin a holy war to force the world to accept our more
: rational view.

: Barry

I won't give in, but I let everyone who insists in his belief.

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Keith Farmer

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Homer Simpson wrote:
>
> >>>I disagree that 2001 is the first year of the millenium.
> >> I disagree that 1999 is in the twentieth century
> >Quite right !
> >BTW: Did you see the movie "Space Odyssey 2001"
> >with IBM - Imean HAL mainframe?

If you actually ask Clarke, he'll deny the reference to IBM.

Asm programmer

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I'm just waiting for 2048.

I celebrate in binary!

-Dustin Clausen
Asmpro...@aol.com

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