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why hp 48GX cost so much on ebay??(unbelievable prices)

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concrete_jungle

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Feb 19, 2005, 12:39:46 PM2/19/05
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Hello
I'm new to the hp families even though they are the smartest calc I
have the 49G+ thought it was the best amongst all manufactured by HP.
I come to know on ebay the 48GX is selling for atleast 130 bucks. what
makes GX special?? . I take my ans off the board:

untill then we all sure dont know when the professed gaint will be
out yet ...
has not shown up yet,why this has not happen, what do "I say " hp is
the best calc . Okay this is kinda tricky here (sharkperic lang) one
questions and one comment don get confuse.
This loooooong awited calculator has not show up yet at my door steep
save money , cann't save anymore perhap it is ot going to happen ever
Qnos

VPN

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Feb 19, 2005, 1:42:23 PM2/19/05
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"concrete_jungle" <tran...@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:1108834786.6...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> Hello
> I'm new to the hp families even though they are the smartest calc I
> have the 49G+ thought it was the best amongst all manufactured by HP.
> I come to know on ebay the 48GX is selling for atleast 130 bucks. what
> makes GX special?? .
A) It has an excellent tactile keyboard
B) it accepts expensive special ROM cards
and some old applications are found only for the 48GX
<or even only for the 48SX>
C) The colors and the overall look (alngle symbol above SPC)
plus the place of the ENTER key makes it more appealing
D) discontinued product usually makes a calc collectable
thus the price might be higher than what it was when new
E) calculator collertors are nuts, grazy, mad, etc...;-)
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Rod O'Connor

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Feb 19, 2005, 3:02:25 PM2/19/05
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"concrete_jungle" <tran...@softhome.net> wrote in message
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Probably because it is the last, best calculator ever put out by HP. I
wouldn't sell or trade mine for anything. It is a classic.

Rod


Mike

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Feb 20, 2005, 5:14:58 PM2/20/05
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I have 2 HP49G+ and a 48GX with a mechanical engineering card. Tempting
to get rid of it but I know I'll be kicking myself as soon as its gone.

Mike

xEaGLe

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Feb 21, 2005, 11:32:22 AM2/21/05
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"concrete_jungle" <tran...@softhome.net> wrote in message news:<1108834786.6...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>...

Cuz it's old and WAS excelent on that time. collector items are usually expensive

Reth

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Feb 21, 2005, 10:47:18 PM2/21/05
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"xEaGLe" <Gusta...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> Cuz it's old and WAS excelent on that time. collector items are usually
expensive

As it's been stated many times here, the magority of buyers (HP48) buy it to
use it rather than for collections. I guess all collectors have enough of
then already :)

Reliable, stylish, powerfull mashine, real working horse.

Cheers


thegoldbug

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Feb 22, 2005, 12:40:04 AM2/22/05
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"Reth" <nos...@nospam.com.au> wrote in message
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I purchased mine to use since my HP41C and CV's had died and a HP41CX is
more expensive to purchase.

thegoldbug


eric

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Feb 28, 2005, 8:35:31 PM2/28/05
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> I purchased mine to use since my HP41C and CV's had died and a HP41CX is
> more expensive to purchase.

What I don't understand is why there are no modern equivalents to classics
like the 42S, 15C, 16C and the 48GX. People are beating themselves to
death paying $200 and more for these calculators on Ebay - someone could
easily go to school on these designs and build themselves a nice niche
business. Instead we get foul tips like the 49G+ . Nice try but how about
a real keyboard, and native code instead of emulation?

Criminy, they make the 12C still. Why not some others. Jeez.


VPN

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Mar 1, 2005, 2:55:20 AM3/1/05
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"eric" <er...@balder.local> wrote in message
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Their calculations show that the cost/profit ratio is negative.
HP has lost thesource code for each and every "nut" family CPU calc
Only the Saturn family survived and that special CPU is no longer made.
The 33s, if successful enough, may make HP think about re-launcing 42S
Let's hope so. Anyway. They need to use a new CPU.
33s is native and the 12C Platinum, too.
Only the 39g+, 48gII, and 49g+ are emulated on ARM
and they are faaast (compared to the old Saturn)

You are free to program native ARM CPU applications using HPgcc
Then your 49g+ will really fly
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Jake Schwartz

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Mar 1, 2005, 10:25:44 AM3/1/05
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VPN wrote:
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> HP has lost thesource code for each and every "nut" family CPU calc
.
.

In actuality, the original source code for the HP41 is available in
hard copy form for anyone to type in. Check Warren Furlow's
http://www.hp41.org site and enter "source code" into the search tool.
Select "VASM Assembly Listing" and you will see a page-by-page listing
of the original HP41 source, obtained by Richard Nelson in the early
1980's from HP Corvallis. He got it with permission and made copies
available to anyone who wanted it, provided that they agreed not to
contact HP with questions. Since several disassemblers were devised in
the HP41 days, I wouldn't be surprised if the ROM code of the 42S could
be disassembled as well.

Jake Schwartz email: jakes <at> pahhc <dot> org

Eric Smith

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Mar 1, 2005, 2:03:55 PM3/1/05
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"Jake Schwartz" <ja...@magpage.com> writes:
> In actuality, the original source code for the HP41 is available in
> hard copy form for anyone to type in.

I typed it all in a few years back. It was a great way to learn a lot
about the inner workings of the HP-41.

I need an assembler to verify it against the actual object code. The
assembler that I wrote for the Classic and Woodstock series instruction
sets can't easily be extended to handle the Nut processor because HP
used some mnemonics as labels too.

> Since several disassemblers were devised in
> the HP41 days, I wouldn't be surprised if the ROM code of the 42S could
> be disassembled as well.

The HP-42S uses a Saturn processor, so the ROM is written in RPL and/or
Saturn assembly. An HP-41 disassembler won't help much with that, but
there are plenty of Saturn disassemblers around.

Eric

Torbjörn Ekström

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Mar 1, 2005, 2:08:32 PM3/1/05
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hmm, emu42s have simple disassembler inside - but not to make list
to file or intelligent lables etc. like advanced disassembler...

/TE

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