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roger...@att.net

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May 18, 2011, 9:45:43 AM5/18/11
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Is there any way, or software for kermit to work with Windows 7? I
have an HP48 and the software I used to connect the HP48 to the PC is
no longer supported.

Demeter

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May 18, 2011, 2:35:47 PM5/18/11
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Hello roger

Go to the hp site and download the connectivity kit that supports the
HP48g
using xsrvr mode:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=215348&prodSeriesId=3235173&prodNameId=3235174&swEnvOID=228&swLang=8&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=ca-14082-8

It should work with no tricks under win7 otherwise use "run as
administrator" and/or compatibility mode for xp.

take care
!Demeter!

Harold A. Climer

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May 18, 2011, 7:58:19 PM5/18/11
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You might try the Kermit Project site http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/
to see what they have.
However the Kermit Project will be discontinued on July 1, 2011.
All files will still be available after that date except for Kermit 95

From The Kermit Project Web Site:
"'C-Kermit 9.0 will have an Open Source license, and
E-Kermit will also be converted to Open Source. Kermit 95 executables
and install packages will not be distributed in a free and open manner
because they include strong encryption, whose export is controlled by
the United States Government.
For Kermit customers who cannot use open source licenses, and
would like to continue to purchase copies of the software as they have
previously, please contact techve...@columbia.edu and mention
Kermit in the subject line. Technical support will not be available
from Columbia University after 30 June 2011. The pages of the Kermit
website will be updated during the remaining months to reflect the new
support and licensing status of the Kermit software. See the
Transition Roadmap (button just below) for the latest and most
accurate information."
Harold A, Climer
University Of Tennessee Chattanooga
Dept. Of Physics, Geology, and Astronomy
615 McCallie Ave.
Room 223 Grote Hall
Chattanooga TN 37403
423-425-4523
Harold...@utc.edu

John H Meyers

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May 18, 2011, 8:12:52 PM5/18/11
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About Kermit in general
(not applicable to any old programs if they still run,
e.g. HP-distributed MS-DOS Kermit, HP connection kits,
Windows [Hyper]Terminal, etc.):

"Kermit Project Canceled Effective 1 July 2011"

"Effective 1 July 2011,
the Kermit Project at Columbia will cease to exist.
This is not, however, a death knell for Kermit software"

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/kermit.html

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/transition.html

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_(protocol)>

Speaking of those pre-historic days,
I used to employ HP's version of MS-DOS Kermit
to transfer files between an old Vax
and early Windows (3.11?), in our Campus I.T. department :)

"The Kermit protocol and software are named after Kermit the Frog,
star of the television series, The Muppet Show; the name Kermit
is used by permission of Henson Associates, Inc.
Why is it named after Kermit the Frog? In May of 1981
we already had first implementations of the protocol working,
but we didn't have a name for the protocol or the software yet.
A group of us was discussing it (me, Bill Catchings,
Bill Schilit, Jeff Damens, I think that was the group),
without actually caring too much since we never expected the software
to spread all over the world and last more than 30 years.
I happened to be facing the wall that had a Muppets calendar on it,
and since my children were such big fans of the Muppet Show I said,
How about Kermit? Thirty years later (May 2011) I found the calendar page
that I was looking at when I said that, you can see it on the left
and you can click on it to see a bigger image."
- Frank da Cruz, Columbia University
<http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/kermit.html>
<http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/kermit-calendar-740.jpg>

Frank da Cruz made 12 posts to comp.sys.hp48
Apr 15 1996 to Oct 8 1998, one of which was this on May 22 1998:
"Kermit on the HP48 (Was: One-Way Transfer)"
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.hp48/msg/ca157a0c4088452e>

-[ ]-

Harold A. Climer

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May 18, 2011, 8:15:26 PM5/18/11
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On Wed, 18 May 2011 06:45:43 -0700 (PDT), roger...@att.net wrote:

I just did a little more exploring on the Kermit Project Web Site
The latest version of Kermit 95 is available to Students,Faculty and
Staff of an accredited school for $48.00.
It says it works for XP. Vista and Windows 7 too.
If you can run DOS there is probably a free version available.

roger...@att.net

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May 18, 2011, 10:40:03 PM5/18/11
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On May 18, 1:35 pm, Demeter <kalfak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 18, 4:45 pm, roger_bl...@att.net wrote:
>
> > Is there any way, or software for kermit to work with Windows 7?  I
> > have an HP48 and the software I used to connect the HP48 to the PC is
> > no longer supported.
>
> Hello roger
>
> Go to the hp site and download the connectivity kit that supports the
> HP48g
> using xsrvr mode:
>
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription....

>
> It should work with no tricks under win7 otherwise use "run as
> administrator" and/or compatibility mode for xp.
>
> take care
> !Demeter!

Thank you. This seems to work. I downloaded a library, so I think I am
on my way.

John H Meyers

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May 19, 2011, 12:47:41 AM5/19/11
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On 5/18/2011 7:15 PM, Harold A. Climer wrote:

> I just did a little more exploring on the Kermit Project Web Site
> The latest version of Kermit 95 is available to Students,Faculty and
> Staff of an accredited school for $48.00.
> It says it works for XP. Vista and Windows 7 too.

All Windows versions through XP still contain built-in HyperTerminal,
which itself can use Kermit and [1K]X/Y/Zmodem protocols to transfer files.

Although HyperTerminal is no longer distributed with Windows 7,
<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/What-happened-to-HyperTerminal>
says: "If you previously used HyperTerminal to control serial devices,
you can usually find a downloadable version of HyperTerminal on the Internet
that is free for personal use." [which seems odd for Microsoft to suggest,
given the vast ocean of malware waiting for innocent victims to download]

Microsoft actually licensed HyperTerminal from Hilgraeve, however,
which still sells (US$60) a version declared compatible with Windows 7:
<http://www.hilgraeve.com/hyperterminal-trial/> ("free trial," not "free")

News flash -- here's a possible FREE (and authentic original)
HyperTerminal for Windows 7:

"If you just can't live without the original HyperTerminal [from Windows XP]
you can actually extract two files from your XP installation
and copy them over to Windows 7 or Vista.

The two files you will need are hypertrm.dll and hypertrm.exe
Simply copy those files into any directory on your machine and it will work.

You should be able to find hypertrm.exe in 'C:\Program Files\Windows NT'
and hypertrm.dll in C:\Windows\System32.
If you have the Windows XP CD, you should be able
to find both of these files in the i386 directory on the CD."
<http://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/windows-7-hyperterminal/>

Sure enough, on my XP machine:

"C:\Program Files\Windows NT"
08/04/2004 12:00 AM 28,160 hypertrm.exe
MD5: 9dbb82fb602aa42b131c55c5d136dc9c

"C:\WINDOWS\system32"
04/14/2008 06:41 AM 347,136 hypertrm.dll
MD5: 277bdf16a94be0d063988d692541650b

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roger...@att.net

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May 21, 2011, 4:18:05 PM5/21/11
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> The two files you will need are hypertrm.dll and hypertrm.exe
> Simply copy those files into any directory on your machine and it will work.
>
> You should be able to find hypertrm.exe in 'C:\Program Files\Windows NT'
> and hypertrm.dll in C:\Windows\System32.
> If you have the Windows XP CD, you should be able
> to find both of these files in the i386 directory on the CD."
> <http://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/windows-7-hyperterminal/>
>
HyperTerminal appears to work for telephone connections. I cannot see
how to use it to connect to the HP48. I am sort of dumb about these
things. I could not get the connectivity kit to work either. I did
send the library to my calculator but after that the program (HP
connectivity) does not find the calculator.

John H Meyers

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May 23, 2011, 5:03:35 PM5/23/11
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On 5/21/2011 3:18 PM, roger...@att.net wrote:

> HyperTerminal appears to work for telephone connections.
> I cannot see how to use it to connect to the HP48.

Use it for _File Transfers_ (under the "Transfer" menu).

Google for: hyperterminal file transfer

One particular result:

http://www.ccsf.edu/Pub/Fac/hyperterm.html

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