HPShopping.com selling hp48gx as DISCONTINUED
James "Captain" Kirk
I just was at www.hpshopping.com and saw that they are having
a "red tag sale" in which they are reducing the price on DISCONTINUED
items, including the hp 48gx. 9s, 30s, 10bii, 9g, 12c. (Look under red
tag sale -> closeout-> calculators) Is HP getting out of the
calculator buisness entirely now, as opposed to just halting
development? Am I wrong in this observation?
It. kinda pisses me off that they dropped the price the week after I
bought mine.
Kirk out.
Jeremy Gibbons
"James "Captain" Kirk" <jak...@NOSPAM.mtu.edu> a écrit dans le message de
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> Hey all,
>
> I just was at www.hpshopping.com and saw that they are having
> a "red tag sale" in which they are reducing the price on DISCONTINUED
> items, including the hp 48gx. 9s, 30s, 10bii, 9g, 12c. (Look under red
> tag sale -> closeout-> calculators) Is HP getting out of the
> calculator buisness entirely now, as opposed to just halting
> development? Am I wrong in this observation?
Actually I think you just misinterpreted the HP Shopping Home Page : the
Red-Tag Sale is advertised on a banner which takes you to a special part of
the site selling refurbished hardware (no calculators to be seen) including
laptops, desktops, servers, printers, etc... The calculator part of the
shopping site hasn't changed, at least as far as I can see.
> It. kinda pisses me off that they dropped the price the week after I
> bought mine.
> Kirk out.
Murphy's Law strikes again...
Jeremy Gibbons
Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
news:06hv8vofketfoi6db...@4ax.com...
> Hey all,
>
> I just was at www.hpshopping.com and saw that they are having
> a "red tag sale" in which they are reducing the price on DISCONTINUED
> items, including the hp 48gx. 9s, 30s, 10bii, 9g, 12c. (Look under red
> tag sale -> closeout-> calculators) Is HP getting out of the
> calculator buisness entirely now, as opposed to just halting
> development? Am I wrong in this observation?
Wait and see...the entry level "HP" (not by HP designers) 9S & 9G
are just the beginning...
> It. kinda pisses me off that they dropped the price the week after I
> bought mine.
> Kirk out.
Don't worry, prices may go up if the war continues too long.
Let's all hope Bush Jr. is more efficient than Sr.
VPN
James "Captain" Kirk
>Actually I think you just misinterpreted the HP Shopping Home Page : the
>Red-Tag Sale is advertised on a banner which takes you to a special part of
>the site selling refurbished hardware (no calculators to be seen) including
Here is how to find the calculators under closeout items:
(I whould give a direct link, but their sit is heavly scripted.)
Click on the red tag sale banner.
The next page will have 5 catagories:
{10% off closeout products
refurbished desktops
refurbished notebooks
refurbished printers
refurbished scanners}
Click on the top link (10% off closeout products), and you will get to
annother page which will have the folowing links:
{Compaq Presario notebooks
hp pavilion notebooks
Compaq Presario desktops and monitors
hp pavilion desktops and monitors
LaserJet printers
inkjet all-in-ones, printers and accessories
scanners
calculators
computer accessories
photo paper
dvd media
jornada handheld accessories}
Click on the calculators link, and you will find the 48gx.
>The calculator part of the
>shopping site hasn't changed, at least as far as I can see.
It has changed. All of the calculators are 10% off. (because of said
red tag sale)
On the bright side, 135 is pretty cheap for a 48gx new in the box. :)
FYI: the model that was shipped to me last week was an Indonesian
model with a black screen.
Kirk out
Jeremy Gibbons
Sorry about that... guess I didn't look hard enough :-) (where's a tricorder
when you need one...)
Jeremy Gibbons
Jean-Yves Avenard
Nousiainen" <DROP...@welho.com> wrote:
> NO WAY! HP is also designing slightly enhanced new models!!
> Wait and see...the entry level "HP" (not by HP designers) 9S & 9G
> are just the beginning...
>
Jean-Yves
Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
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You need to seek the internet with other languages than the main languages
like Finnish, French (english?) in order to get more rumors...
One financial model for sure.
Others not yet confirmed from my contact in the USA.
VPN
PS: Can you write to me personally?
Gene Wright
I think he's making an educated guess given statements HP made in London.
Gene
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Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
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> If he knew that for sure, he shouldn't be able to tell, as NDAs would
apply.
>
> I think he's making an educated guess given statements HP made in London.
>
> Gene
Now you ruined it all !!!
Everybody (except You & Avenard) thought that I have some secret
information available from my (imaginary) US contacts
AND NOW YOU HAVE RUINED THAT FOREVER !!!
GRRRR!!!
I GO GREEN & BIG! AND...I LIKE IT !!!
http://www.thehulk.com/video_superbowl.html
Veli-Banner HULK
Ron Ross
I feel that VPN has fallen in LOVE with the Carly Blather. She can
sweet talk any CEO or wall street business types. Most of the upper
echelon love her ideas and plans. However on the smaller scale of
calculator production (or any widget's of any sort), she would rather
outsource and rely on becoming more like Microsoft. Sell intelectial
ideas and software, not widgets (ie calculators), is the new HP way.
I would love to rant and rave on why you are wrong VPN, but if JYA is
skeptical, why are you so sure?
My own theory (and that's all I have ever had) is that Hp is designing
and developing RPN calculators. But the pe'on engineers will not get
these calculators into production as the RPN feature will add $2-3 to
the production costs. This will be unacceptable to Marketing guru's
who just know that will put their new $22 calculator up to $30 (US)and
out of the market and unsellable. Therefore, it WON'T happen. You
and I (and Bill Hewlett) may actually know better, but Marketers have
their own information to the contrary (wrong and $#$#%UP as it may
be).
Hp has a terrible habit of castorating (sp?) its product lines, so as
to not rob higher product lines. Not that Hp is alone in this
practice, but I feel it is better to sell two Hp49G's at $120 that
sell three or four Hp 39/40G's at $70. The more discerning customer
will buy the better product because he needs the better product (in
field engineering He does indeed need the better product). And most
of us, whether REAL or IMAGINED want/need the best and will pay for
it. But Hp has cruched the numbers and we are losing.
Its to bad that Agilient did not inhieret the calculator business.
But Hp coorporate kept this little golden goose only to kill it.
I hope I am wrong and I hope VPN is RIGHT!!!
But I am a skeptic, and I feel HP has lied to us on numerous
occasions.
Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
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> Jean-Yves Avenard <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> > On 6/4/03 23:36, in article b6pagn$8m3$1...@nyytiset.pp.htv.fi, "Veli-Pekka
> > Nousiainen" <DROP...@welho.com> wrote:
> > > NO WAY! HP is also designing slightly enhanced new models!!
> > > Wait and see...the entry level "HP" (not by HP designers) 9S & 9G
> > > are just the beginning...
> > >
> > Do you know that for sure, or you're just guessing?
> >
> > Jean-Yves
>
> I feel that VPN has fallen in LOVE with the Carly Blather.
> I would love to rant and rave on why you are wrong VPN, but if JYA is
> skeptical, why are you so sure?
A phophesy is this: the angel may have fallen, but power is still there.
> My own theory (and that's all I have ever had) is that Hp is designing
> and developing RPN calculators. But the pe'on engineers will not get
> these calculators into production as the RPN feature will add $2-3 to
right...)-:
>
> Its to bad that Agilient did not inhieret the calculator business.
> But Hp coorporate kept this little golden goose only to kill it.
>
> I hope I am wrong and I hope VPN is RIGHT!!!
bah...I'm just imaging things
> But I am a skeptic, and I feel HP has lied to us on numerous
> occasions.
They left me out of the BetaTesting of the new super-calculator
which has surround holographic display
where you actually be a 3D curve instead of just seeing it.
AND
<just a moment - I'll have to take my medicine>
the interface is neural - but incompatible with Greeks
I'm..getting...more...relaxed...
VPN
Derek
parisse
> Hp has a terrible habit of castorating (sp?) its product lines, so as
> to not rob higher product lines. Not that Hp is alone in this
> practice, but I feel it is better to sell two Hp49G's at $120 that
> sell three or four Hp 39/40G's at $70. The more discerning customer
> will buy the better product because he needs the better product (in
> field engineering He does indeed need the better product). And most
> of us, whether REAL or IMAGINED want/need the best and will pay for
> it. But Hp has cruched the numbers and we are losing.
>
I disagree. Many pupils can not afford 120$ for a calc (=150 euros once
taxes are added here), it's great that the HP40 is (was?) sold
around 90 euros. The fact that the HP40 did not have the success
it merited is another story... If HP make some new calcs, I hope
the 40 will be replaced by a calc with the same capabilities (but
faster!) and for the same price.
Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
news:b6trfk$lar$1...@news-reader12.wanadoo.fr...
> >
> > Hp has a terrible habit of castorating (sp?) its product lines, so as
> > to not rob higher product lines. Not that Hp is alone in this
> > practice, but I feel it is better to sell two Hp49G's at $120 that
> > sell three or four Hp 39/40G's at $70.
> I disagree. Many pupils can not afford 120$ for a calc (=150 euros once
> taxes are added here), it's great that the HP40 is (was?) sold
> around 90 euros. The fact that the HP40 did not have the success
> it merited is another story... If HP make some new calcs, I hope
> the 40 will be replaced by a calc with the same capabilities (but
> faster!) and for the same price.
I agree with "but faster" - AND I want to add: even cheaper
and a more capable CAS (by Parisse)
(-:
VPN
PS: The CAS flag changes in the 49G should happen silently
in the background and the user settings should be *restored*
when the internal calculation has finished, just before display.
Ron Ross
> taxes are added here), it's great that the HP40 is (was?) sold
> around 90 euros. The fact that the HP40 did not have the success
> it merited is another story... If HP make some new calcs, I hope
> the 40 will be replaced by a calc with the same capabilities (but
> faster!) and for the same price.
Well, my comment about Hp castorating product lines to not rob higher
end sales is right on the money here. Why didn't you at least include
units conversions? While you were at it, why not toss in an RPN
selection feature. I too, would have bought (if I could, but I live
in the USA where only the 39G is sold). Those two mistakes (carried
over from the Hp 38G, I might add) were the death of this type of
calculator.
I know your marketing IDIOTS made that call, but there was NEVER a
chance to edge out the Ti-83 in the market. Too many textbooks are
already written for it and schools have bought into both the BOOKS and
the calculators (teachers do not like to learn New toys, when the
present one is adequate).
So I have proposed this for years. Sell the HP UN-FAIR advantage.
You just might get 10% of the market with a profit margin considerably
higher than Ti. Hp made $$ on it Hp39/40G series at $80. Adding
those two features (and CAS to the 39G) would have made it a banned
calculator for SAT's here in the US. But it was banned by the other
testing agency (ACT) anyway for its limited CAS as it was. With units
conversions and CAS, it could have stolen sales from Ti's higher line
and been a big upgrade from the Ti-83 at a similiar (or slightly less)
price.
The customer who buys Hp does so (Used to, anyway), because he is
getting the best value for the $$$. The 39G doesn't really offer
substantial advantages over a Ti-83. You can say, More RAM, but for
WHAT? GAMES?? Or to download the stuff that should have been there
in the FIRST PLACE ie units conversions, CAS, if its ever released??
The average student buys a Ti and follows along in Class. Your market
should have sold to the better student who would want the extras, even
if he/she had to read the manual to take advantage of all the extras
in his/her calculator.
Sadly, there is not enough there to warrent buying the Hp.
Jordi Hidalgo
> You can say, More RAM, but for WHAT? GAMES?? Or to download the stuff that
> should have been there in the FIRST PLACE ie units conversions, CAS, if its
> ever released??
Well, my aplet is only 1.5K in size ... though it's not really needed.
Jordi Hidalgo
HPCC #1046
Raul Lion
>
> Well, my aplet is only 1.5K in size ... though it's not really needed.
The last time I read about your applet... you were going to "put it in a drawer"...
Can you give more info?
Thanks, Jordi
Raul
Jordi Hidalgo
> The last time I read about your applet... you were going to "put it in a
> drawer"...
I'm afraid I have been speaking too softly since :)
Jordi Hidalgo
HPCC #1046
Veli-Pekka Nousiainen
>
> >Actually I think you just misinterpreted the HP Shopping Home Page : the
> >Red-Tag Sale is advertised on a banner which takes you to a special part
of
> >the site selling refurbished hardware (no calculators to be seen)
including
> >laptops, desktops, servers, printers, etc... Here is how you find the
calculators:
>
> Here is how to find the calculators under closeout items:
> It has changed. All of the calculators are 10% off. (because of said
> red tag sale)
EVEN the very new HP 9S and 9G are on 10% discount !!!
SO: This is of NO proof of any "closeout item" sales of ANY models, sorry!
So you are both _both_ right & wrong ??
(-;
VPN