HP Pavilion 6630 - Fastest CPU Speed?

[Tim]

Okay I'm not looking for trouble by posting this...

A friend of mine has the 6630. She is wanting to get a faster CPU, but does
not have money to buy a whole new computer.

I noticed the latest BIOS for it says it "fixes a problem with a 633MHz CPU
being displayed at 650MHz" so I know it'll at least go to 633.

Before the community forums were removed from HP's web site, I got two
different answers to this question from HP Tech Support. One said not any
faster than 533.... another one said as long as it stayed with 100Mhz FSB
(or was it 66MHz?), you could go no higher than 700MHz

Anyway, just need some help as to what to tell her.

Thanks

[Earl]

In most cases, the processor on the motherboard is the best that it can
handle. HP doesnt build a lot of upgradiblity for processors...
700 should work...

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[chuckie]

Sorry if this is a bit lengthy, but, hopefully, it will enlighten you to the
m/b's capabilities...
These systems are designed to operate with the Intelä Celeronä Processor or
the Intelä Pentium IIIä running at speeds up to 800 MHz. The microprocessor
implements MMXä technology and maintains full backward compatibility with
the 8086, 80286, Intel 386, Intel 486, Pentiumä processor, and Pentium Pro
processors. The board comes installed with 64 Mbytes of SDRAM memory.

Table 1 below shows the specific Intel microprocessor chip speed and SDRAM
RAM included for each system. The processor, in addition to its expanded
data and addressing capabilities, includes the following features:

Ready for the next generation OverDrive processor
On-chip numeric co-processor
32 KB Level 1 cache (16 KB for data, 16 KB for code)
128 KB Pipeline Burst Level 2 cache
Read and write burst mode bus cycles
Intel 810 chipset
Integrated 230 MHz RAMDAC Graphics Controller configured for 8M or 11M of
Dymanic Video Memory
SDRAM memory expandable to 512 Mbytes
About the Intel Pentium III Processors
This version of the motherboard is designed to operate with the Intel
Pentium III Processor version of this motherboard running at speeds up to
1000 MHz (1 GHz). The board comes installed with 64, 96, 128, 196 or 256
Mbytes of SDRAM memory.

Table 1 below shows the specific Intel microprocessor chip speed and SDRAM
RAM included for each system. The processor, in addition to its expanded
data and addressing capabilities, includes the following features:

On-chip numeric co-processor (compatible with the Intel 486ä DX processor
and compliant with ANSI/IEEE standard 754-1985)
100 MHz or 133 MHz FSB, depending on the specific processor
32 KB Level 1 cache (16 KB for data, 16 KB for code)
256 KB Level 2 cache
Read and write burst mode bus cycles
Via 694X chipset
SDRAM memory expandable to 512 Mbyte
HP Pavilion System
Microprocessor Speed
System Memory

HP Pavilion 6501 Intel Celeron
466 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6530 Intel Celeron
433 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6601 Intel Celeron
500 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6611 Intel Celeron
533 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6617 Intel Celeron
566 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6621 Intel Celeron
600 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6630 Intel Celeron
500 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6632 Intel Celeron
533 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6634U Intel Celeron
533 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6635 Intel Celeron
533 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6636 Intel Celeron
500 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6638 Intel Celeron
533 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6642D Intel Celeron
533 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6642F Intel Celeron
500 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6644D Intel Celeron
600 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6644F Intel Celeron
533 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6645C Intel Celeron
566 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6648C Intel Celeron
566 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6649F Intel Celeron
600 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6683 Intel Celeron
533 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6700 (Asia/Pacific) Intel Celeron
633 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6701 (Asia/Pacific) Intel Celeron
633 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6726 (Asia/Pacific) Intel Celeron
667 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6730 Intel Celeron
600 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6734 Intel Celeron
633 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6735 Intel Celeron
633 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6736 Intel Celeron
667 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6738 Intel Celeron
700 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6740 Intel Celeron
667 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6745 Intel Celeron
700 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6746 Intel Celeron
733 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 6751 (Asia/Pacific) Intel Pentium III
800 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 7840 Intel Celeron
766 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion 7850 Intel Pentium III
933/133 MHz 128 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion XE732 Intel Celeron
633 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion XE736 Intel Celeron
600 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion XE742 Intel Celeron
733 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion XE744 Intel Celeron
667 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion XE746 Intel Celeron
667 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion XE749 Intel Celeron
766 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion XE763 Intel Celeron
700 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion XE793 Intel Celeron
700 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion XG823 Intel Celeron
700 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion XT846 Intel Celeron
800 MHz 64 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM
HP Pavilion XT856 Intel Pentium III
933 MHz 128 Mbytes, 100 MHz SDRAM

Table 1: Microprocessor Speed and System Memory

The flexible design of the motherboard will accept processors operating at
speeds up to 800 MHz. The memory subsystem is designed to support up to 512
MB of SDRAM (for improved performance) in the form of two DIMM sockets that
support 16-128 MB 168-pin 3.3 Volt SDRAM memory modules.

The motherboard features Intel’s 810 chipset with I/O subsystem. Onboard VGA
features 11 MB Dynamic Video Memory (DVM).

PCI expansion slots are supported by connectors on the motherboard. The
motherboard comes with 3 PCI slots.

In addition to superior hardware capabilities, a full set of software
drivers and utilities are available to allow advanced operating systems such
as Windows ‘98 to take full advantage of the hardware capabilities. Features
such as bus mastering IDE, Windows ‘98-ready Plug 'N' Play, and glitchless
bi-directional audio are all provided by available software.

"Tim" <obu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Okay I'm not looking for trouble by posting this...
>
> A friend of mine has the 6630. She is wanting to get a faster CPU, but
does
> not have money to buy a whole new computer.

<snipped to save space>

[Tim]

Just got this link from HP Tech Support.

www.hp.com/cposupport/personal_computing/support_doc/bph05312.html

So..... according to this it makes it look like I can run a 733 in it.
True?

[chuckieŽ]

That is what they are saying, however, it flies in the face of the page that
I sent you. That one says that it will support up to 800mHz. I think,
however, I would err on the side of caution and not put anything faster than
733mHz in it...luck...

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[Tim]

Okay now one more dumb question (I'm full of them, trust me!)

Example: I can get a Pentium-III 600MHz @ 100MHz and 133MHz FSB....... if I
get a 733MHz Celeron.... what FSB is that going to be? 66? 100?

Also...... what's the difference between a Celeron and a Celeron-II? Will
this support a Celeron-II?

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[robkamel]

The 733mhz Celeron runs at 66mhz. Celerons 800mhz and above run at
100mhz. Unfortunately, you will not be able to run a Celeron II, the
stepping code is way different.

[Tim]

Okay that's what I wanted to know.

Just like the Pentium-III cpu's... anything above (what was it?) 600MHz was
a "Coppermine" processor..... I thought maybe something similar to Celeron
like anything above 700MHz was a "CeleronII"

Thanks for the info.... going to order a 733Mhz Celeron

Tim

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[tohtorix]

Seen some 900 Mhz P3's at 100Mhz, and even some 1Ghz at 100, do you
think that those would work? I mean, even if they are coppermines, as
long as it isnt trying to run at 133Mhz, which 810 wont support, it
should be fine, correct?

[Tim]

Hey sorry, hadn't check the NG in a while.

I honestly can't say.... I don't have the knowledge to answer.

I bought a Tyan Tiger 100 and dual P3 850 Coppermine's. Any P3 greater than
600MHz is technically considered a coppermine, because mine doesn't have
512Kb cache, but 256k "on the die" cache. So even though I have 2 P3 850MHz
@ 100MHz FSB, they ARE coppermines...

But as far as them running on this board, I don't even see how a P3 would
work, since all their info is based on the celeron..... and to run a P3 on
the Abit BP6 (dual CPU also) there'd need to be extensive hardware mod's
done to it..... which I wouldn't be too keen on doing.

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