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Michael French

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Aug 3, 2001, 2:19:48 PM8/3/01
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Hi Everyone,
I have recently started collecting computers, the other day I got a
HP9000/300 but no hardisk, so I have no operating system for it. I was
wondering if it is possible to download the proper OS for it from anywhere
so as to be able to see if it still operates. It would be nice to get it
going and try to learn how this system works. Any help or advice welcome.

Many thanks
Mick

Mick4555@:btinternet.com


ryan

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Aug 3, 2001, 6:28:10 PM8/3/01
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Michael French wrote:
> I have recently started collecting computers, the other day I got a
> HP9000/300 but no hardisk, so I have no operating system for it. I was
> wondering if it is possible to download the proper OS for it from anywhere
> so as to be able to see if it still operates. It would be nice to get it
> going and try to learn how this system works. Any help or advice welcome.
>

Check out:
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/hp300/

ryan

t...@mit.jyu.fi

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Aug 3, 2001, 11:31:07 PM8/3/01
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"Michael French" <Mick...@btinternet.com> writes:

> I have recently started collecting computers, the other day I
> got a HP9000/300 but no hardisk, so I have no operating system for
> it. I was wondering if it is possible to download the proper OS for
> it from anywhere so as to be able to see if it still operates. It
> would be nice to get it going and try to learn how this system
> works.

"HP9000/300" is not very specific, it's a series that included
something like a dozen different models, and they could be equipped
with a variety of add-ons, interface cards &c; if I were you I'd start
by figuring out exactly what hardware you have.
In particular, you may need to get a hard disk for it
and finding a compatible one may not be quite trivial.
A suitable tape drive (or possibly CD-ROM) is harder still.
Most models (but not all) can run diskless though,
if you have a suitable server.


As for the "proper OS", depending on the model you have at least
six theoretical possibilities:

HP-BASIC (yes, that's an OS)
HP-Pascal (so is that, believe it or not)
HP-UX
NetBSD
OpenBSD
Linux

I don't know much about the first two, but unless you
are specifically interested in them (for historical
reasons or whatever), I'd suggest forgetting them.

As for HP-UX, you'd need to find a hard disk, media and
compatible tape drive or possibly CD (if the box is new enough),
or another HP-UX system (no other is likely to work) to use
as a disk server.
Which HP-UX versions will work depends on the model, but
it'd be something from 5.x to 9.10. Note that some version
numbers have been used for different and incompatible
platforms and you need to get the right one.
Also, the only Y2K compliant version of series 300/400 HP-UX
is 9.10, and it won't work in oldest models.

If you have no HP-UX shop nearby where you could get help and
missing pieces it's perhaps best to try some of the free
unix-like OSes:

NetBSD has been running on 300-series boxes for a long
time, see www.netbsd.org.

OpenBSD has also been ported to 300-series (I don't
know if it is currently better or worse than NetBSD),
see www.openbsd.org.

Some people are also trying to port Linux to them,
but I don't think it's quite working yet; see
www.linux-m68k.org.

--
Tapani Tarvainen

Michael French

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Aug 4, 2001, 9:34:33 AM8/4/01
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Hi Everyone
The only thing that I can see on them is the HP 9000/300 on the front
and a code on the box's
98561x
98572x
I am not sure if that will identify them.
The other hardware that I have got is:
2 x HP 9122 Twin Disk drives
1 x HP 9144 Tape drive
2 x HP 35731B Green screen monitors
1 x RF 4100 Plasmon CD recorder
1 x VT 240 Digital box colour monitor & keyboard
1 x HP ThinkJet printer
1 x Apple LaserWriter 11

The cards that are in the 9000/300's are:
Infax 200/300
Infotek systems AD200 converter
HP 50962A SRM Coax interface.

The only trouble is that I haven't got a HP- HIL keyboard can this be got
round? Is it possible to use a normal keyboard?

Thanks for your help
Mick

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ryan

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Aug 4, 2001, 12:20:30 PM8/4/01
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Michael French wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone
> The only thing that I can see on them is the HP 9000/300 on the front
> and a code on the box's
> 98561x
> 98572x
> I am not sure if that will identify them.
> The other hardware that I have got is:
> 2 x HP 9122 Twin Disk drives
> 1 x HP 9144 Tape drive
> 2 x HP 35731B Green screen monitors
> 1 x RF 4100 Plasmon CD recorder
> 1 x VT 240 Digital box colour monitor & keyboard
> 1 x HP ThinkJet printer
> 1 x Apple LaserWriter 11
>
> The cards that are in the 9000/300's are:
> Infax 200/300
> Infotek systems AD200 converter
> HP 50962A SRM Coax interface.
>
> The only trouble is that I haven't got a HP- HIL keyboard can this be got
> round? Is it possible to use a normal keyboard?
>
> Thanks for your help
> Mick
>
> > "HP9000/300" is not very specific, it's a series that included
> > something like a dozen different models, and they could be equipped
> > with a variety of add-ons, interface cards &c; if I were you I'd start
> > by figuring out exactly what hardware you have.
> > In particular, you may need to get a hard disk for it
> > and finding a compatible one may not be quite trivial.
> > A suitable tape drive (or possibly CD-ROM) is harder still.
> > Most models (but not all) can run diskless though,
> > if you have a suitable server.
> >
> >
> > As for the "proper OS", depending on the model you have at least
> > six theoretical possibilities:
> >
> > HP-BASIC (yes, that's an OS)
> > HP-Pascal (so is that, believe it or not)
> > HP-UX
> > NetBSD
> > OpenBSD
> > Linux
> >
The 98561 indicates an early model 300. This could be a
model 310 or 320. If it is an X then it may have been
upgraded.

The 98572x may be a model 332. Which is a Moto 68030 CPU
at 16.7 MHz.

The SRM I/F indicates that this was connected to a dedicated
LAN. Since it didn't come with a HD, I'm guessing that it
was a diskless workstation that booted off the SRM server.

The 332 will run HP-UX 7.x and I'm fairly sure 8.x. I'm
not sure about 9.x. It will also run Rocky Mountain Basic,
RMB, and Pascal as the OS.

The 310 will not run HP-UX, You need the RMB or Pascal
OS for it. The 320 may if it has a MMU.

ryan

Michael French

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Aug 8, 2001, 2:16:39 PM8/8/01
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Hi Atro
Thanks for the offer but its a long way from the UK.

Best Wishes
Mick
"Atro Tossavainen" <Atro.Tos...@iki.fi.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Michael French" <Mick...@btinternet.com> writes:
>
> > The only trouble is that I haven't got a HP- HIL keyboard can this be
got
> > round? Is it possible to use a normal keyboard?
>

> You do need a HP-HIL keyboard.
>
> I've got two spare that you can have for free if you're willing to pick
> them up from Helsinki, Finland...
>
> --
> Atro Tossavainen (Mr.) / The Institute of Biotechnology at
> Systems Analyst, Techno-Amish & / the University of Helsinki, Finland,
> +358-9-19158939 UNIX Dinosaur / employs me, but my opinions are my
own.
> < URL : http : / / www . iki . fi / atro . tossavainen / >


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