Libretto 50CT, MMX and Discontinuation
Paul Tarlow
My Libretto 50CT arrived today. Gawd - this is just about the coolest piece
of PC hardware I've seen in my dozen years in the PC industry.
I was surprised that the chip is MMX (that's what the sticker said). Has
the 50CT always been MMX?
Also, someone posted a message saying that the 50CT was being discontinued.
Not according to the Toshiba press release today that announced price cuts.
- Paul
Matthew Miller
Paul Tarlow <ptarlow@skip_this_part.aol.com> wrote:
>I was surprised that the chip is MMX (that's what the sticker said). Has
>the 50CT always been MMX?
No -- mine isn't. That's very odd. Which sticker says that?
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Paul Tarlow
Hello Matthew.
When open, to the left of the screen, at the top is screen printed "Libretto
50CT". Below that are three stickers which are, from top to bottom:
- Intel Inside/Pentium/MMX (this is a silver metal sticker)
- Energy Star
- Designed for Windows95
My guess is this is one of the ones where they screwed with the clock speed
of a newer, faster chip -- because they couldn't get any more true 75s.
Does Intel even make any none-MMX chips at this point?
- Paul
Matthew Miller wrote in message ...
DKerr
Paul -
Would you mind telling me what comes with the 50ct? Does it have a port
expander so you can use parallel and serial devices? Or is that optional?
I'm asking because I do have a parallel port cd-rom drive that I want to use
to install software to the Libretto. How easy is the keyboard to use? Is
it too cramped for a touch typist?
Thanks in advance....
Paul Tarlow wrote in message <6fs4e2$c3g$1...@winter.news.erols.com>...
Matthew Miller
DKerr <nos...@noquickrichschemes.com> wrote:
>Would you mind telling me what comes with the 50ct? Does it have a port
>expander so you can use parallel and serial devices? Or is that optional?
>I'm asking because I do have a parallel port cd-rom drive that I want to use
Yes, the included port replicator has serial and parallel ports.
>to install software to the Libretto. How easy is the keyboard to use? Is
>it too cramped for a touch typist?
I use a sort off modified touch-typing, without using my little fingers.
That works well for me and I can type almost as fast as on a full size
keyboard.
Paul Tarlow
Here is a list of everything in the box:
- the Libretto
- a port expander that screws on the back and provides a 9-pin serial,
parallel and video output (you'll need to buy the enhanced version if you
want mouse and keyboard connections, but for your $200 you'll also get an
additional PCMCIA III socket)
- a standard battery
- a floppy drive hardwired to a PCMCIA connector
- an adapter that allow the mono jack output to be split to stereo
headphones (mono in both ears)
- a manual
- a bunch of marketing stuff for offers that have expired (at least the ones
in my box have)
- including a certificate for Puma Tech.'s IntelliSync 97 ($10 if you want
the CD-ROM or download for free) - but be careful, this is buried with all
the other marketing stuff
- a Toshiba Utilities disk (I think it is an emergency boot disk)
The typing question is hard to answer. I'm a *really* fast touch typist. My
keyboard of choice is the MS-Natural which is HUGE. I found the keyboard
workable. I wouldn't want to have to use it all day, but I suspect it will
be fine for an hour or two at a time. My productivity will go down, but
tolerably considering.
I've had it for about six hours now and you'd have to pry my dead fingers of
it before I'd give it up. Way, way cool.
DKerr wrote in message <6fsge0$7s8$1...@ionews.ionet.net>...
>Paul -
>
>Would you mind telling me what comes with the 50ct? Does it have a port
>expander so you can use parallel and serial devices? Or is that optional?
>I'm asking because I do have a parallel port cd-rom drive that I want to
use
>to install software to the Libretto. How easy is the keyboard to use? Is
>it too cramped for a touch typist?
>
>Thanks in advance....
>
>Paul Tarlow wrote in message <6fs4e2$c3g$1...@winter.news.erols.com>...
>>Hello Matthew.
>>
>>When open, to the left of the screen, at the top is screen printed
>"Libretto
>>50CT". Below that are three stickers which are, from top to bottom:
>>
>>- Intel Inside/Pentium/MMX (this is a silver metal sticker)
>>- Energy Star
>>- Designed for Windows95
>>
>>My guess is this is one of the ones where they screwed with the clock
speed
>>of a newer, faster chip -- because they couldn't get any more true 75s.
>>Does Intel even make any none-MMX chips at this point?
>>
>>- Paul
>>
>>Matthew Miller wrote in message ...
>>>Paul Tarlow <ptarlow@skip_this_part.aol.com> wrote:
>>>>I was surprised that the chip is MMX (that's what the sticker said).
Has
>>>>the 50CT always been MMX?
>>>
>>>No -- mine isn't. That's very odd. Which sticker says that?
>>>
>>>
>>>
m...@jamstec.go.jp
In article <6frqj9$19h$1...@winter.news.erols.com>,
"Paul Tarlow" <ptarlow@skip_this_part.aol.com> wrote:
>
> My Libretto 50CT arrived today. Gawd - this is just about the coolest piece
> of PC hardware I've seen in my dozen years in the PC industry.
>
> the 50CT always been MMX?
>
Wow! You are the real lucky guy who got Lib 70 or 100 for the
price of Lib 50....
Lib 50 uses Non-MMX old Pentium 75Mhz. Lib 50 was discontinued
long ago. Since then, there was a Lib 60 which was not exported
(thats what people said). Lib 60 uses Pent 100Mhz. Current model
is Lib 70 and Lib 100. They both uses MMX Pent. Freq is diffrent, though.
If your Lib is really Lib50 and it (box, instruction or whatever) says
it uses MMX Pent,... That will be a mystery. Modified by someone
(overclocking isn't rare but replaceing CPU to MMX??) or
pirated version???
Rosh
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kh
I was kinda surpised that my new-ish Libretto supposedly has an MMX chip as
well, according to the sticker. Anyone have a util that will confirm or
deny the MMX presence?
Paul Tarlow wrote in message <6frqj9$19h$1...@winter.news.erols.com>...
>My Libretto 50CT arrived today. Gawd - this is just about the coolest
piece
>of PC hardware I've seen in my dozen years in the PC industry.
>
>I was surprised that the chip is MMX (that's what the sticker said). Has
>the 50CT always been MMX?
>
Kim hoon
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:59:26 -0600, "kh" <k...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>I was kinda surpised that my new-ish Libretto supposedly has an MMX chip as
>well, according to the sticker. Anyone have a util that will confirm or
>deny the MMX presence?
Run MMXcompatible game on your libretto. if yours doesn't MMX
chip, you can't see the MMX selectable menu..
Paul Tarlow
My Libretto has "Libretto 50CT" printed on the case and the HD is about
800MB so I don't think I got a 70 or 100. I suspect that the 120MMX is the
lowest end of Intel's chip line at this point so that is what Toshiba is
using. It is a lot easier to cripple clock speed than it is to disable an
entire set of instructions.
Can anyone really confirm that the Libretto 50CT is discontinued? There is
no mention on the Toshiba site and they still list it in their line up.
Also, the 3/31/98 press release that announced the price cuts mention a cut
on the 50CT but not that it was discontinued, which would have been standard
if it was the case.
- Paul
m...@jamstec.go.jp wrote in message <6fv1lp$a7f$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <6frqj9$19h$1...@winter.news.erols.com>,
> "Paul Tarlow" <ptarlow@skip_this_part.aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> My Libretto 50CT arrived today. Gawd - this is just about the coolest
piece
>> of PC hardware I've seen in my dozen years in the PC industry.
>>
>> I was surprised that the chip is MMX (that's what the sticker said). Has
>> the 50CT always been MMX?
>>
>
epbrown
On Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:04:43 -0500, "Paul Tarlow"
<ptarlow@skip_this_part.aol.com> wrote:
>My Libretto has "Libretto 50CT" printed on the case and the HD is about
>800MB so I don't think I got a 70 or 100. I suspect that the 120MMX is the
>lowest end of Intel's chip line at this point so that is what Toshiba is
>using. It is a lot easier to cripple clock speed than it is to disable an
>entire set of instructions.
150Mhz, but Intel backtracked and released a 133 low-priced version
from laptop vendors that wanted to hit a certain price point.
epbrown
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editorials, and the FAQ on laptop computers.
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T Wilson
What about the Libretto 70? I thought it was a P120 MMX.
- Tom
KANEFSKY
In article <6g0jvg$72e$1...@winter.news.erols.com>,
Paul Tarlow <ptarlow@skip_this_part.aol.com> wrote:
>My Libretto has "Libretto 50CT" printed on the case and the HD is about
>800MB so I don't think I got a 70 or 100. I suspect that the 120MMX is the
>lowest end of Intel's chip line at this point so that is what Toshiba is
>using. It is a lot easier to cripple clock speed than it is to disable an
>entire set of instructions.
I just picked up a new Libretto 50 for $950 from NECX and am dissapointed
to find that it has (as far as I can tell) a 75Mhz Pentium. I've run
several utilities (e.g. syscheck, cachechk) and they indicate that the L1
cache is 8K (MMX Pentiums have 16K) and that MMX is not supported. Can
anyone with a 50CT and the 120Mhz chip see if these utilities report a 16K
cache and/or MMX support? Here are the URLs for the two utilities:
http://www6.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/getit.bin?fcode=0000S2
http://www.sysopt.com/pub/cachechk4.zip
Thanks,
--
Steve Kanefsky
Steve Schone
<snip>
>
>Can anyone really confirm that the Libretto 50CT is discontinued? There is
>no mention on the Toshiba site and they still list it in their line up.
>Also, the 3/31/98 press release that announced the price cuts mention a cut
>on the 50CT but not that it was discontinued, which would have been standard
>if it was the case.
>
At this point the Libretto 50 has not been discontinued. I don't believe it is
still being manufactured and I wouldn't expect it to be available for much
longer.
Steve Schone
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Benjamin Robinson
In comp.sys.laptops, on the "Re: Libretto 50CT, MMX and Discontinuation"
thread, Kim hoon wrote:
>On Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:59:26 -0600, "kh" <k...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>
>>Anyone have a util that will confirm or
>>deny the MMX presence?
>
> Run MMXcompatible game on your libretto. if yours doesn't MMX
> chip, you can't see the MMX selectable menu..
If you don't have an MMX-compliant game handy, you can also download the
free "CPUinfo" utility from Intel's website (which is probably at
<http://www.intel.com>). I forget the exact location of the program, but if
you do a site search you should find it.
Unpack the file (it's PKZipped), run the Tstdll32.exe (*) program, and
select "File | CPU Features" from the menu. Ta da, if you have an MMX it'll
tell you.
(*) Tstdll16.exe will do the same thing.
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