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[AS800] Looking for pedestal kit

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JKB

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May 18, 2012, 6:11:22 AM5/18/12
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Hello,

I have an old rackmounted alphaserver800 and I'm looking for a long
time for a pedestal kit to transform this rackmounted server in
workstation. I'm looking for a new graphic card too (I'm using
OpenVMS 8.3/8.4).

Do you know where I can find this kind of spare ? I'm in Paris,
France.

Regards,

JB

Hans Vlems

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May 21, 2012, 7:57:18 AM5/21/12
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The graphics card usually found in an Alpha Server 800 / Digital
Server 3000 is an S3 Trio64 PCI video controller.
Ebay is your friend apparently, they're between $20 and $80.
Check whether the controller is supported under VMS.
Hans

Bill Pechter

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May 21, 2012, 2:01:08 PM5/21/12
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In article <62ce7ea0-605c-4ca1...@p1g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
$20.00 for an S3Trio64. Ugh.

Got a pile of them in the corner in the basement where I used them on
all my FreeBSD boxes.

People are getting $20 to $80 for them. Really? Are those an Alpha
specific DEC version?

Bill


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JKB

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May 29, 2012, 4:46:35 AM5/29/12
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Le Mon, 21 May 2012 04:57:18 -0700 (PDT),
Hans Vlems <hvl...@freenet.de> écrivait :
Thanks for your answer. And for pedestal kit ? Have you any DEC
part number ? I have found several different P/N...

Regards,

JKB

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Hans Vlems

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Jun 5, 2012, 2:43:16 AM6/5/12
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Can't help you with the pedestal kit, sorry.

Hans Vlems

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Jun 5, 2012, 2:49:59 AM6/5/12
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On 21 mei, 20:01, pech...@tucker.pechter.dyndns.org (Bill Pechter)
wrote:
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I really don't know Bill whther the S3 cards were modified by DEC.
But very likely yes, since DEC had a tendency to improve on designs
from 3rd parties.
If your Alpha had one installed, just fine. If it came without a
graphics card then IMHO it's better
to use DECW over the network on a pc based X-server.
Hans

John Wallace

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Jun 5, 2012, 6:20:01 PM6/5/12
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> I really don't know Bill whther the S3 cards were modified by DEC.
> But very likely yes, since DEC had a tendency to improve on designs
> from 3rd parties.
> If your Alpha had one installed, just fine. If it came without a
> graphics card then IMHO it's better
> to use DECW over the network on a pc based X-server.
> Hans

The AlphaServer 800 Systems and Options Catlogue (SOC) chapter is
still online, e.g. at
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/SOC/QBQ24CPF.PDF for the
final edition
and
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/SOC/QB004GPF.PDF for the
first edition.

Both can be found via the general AlphaServer 800 page at
http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/archive/800/

The final SOC for this server says that the 1MB S3 Trio graphics is on
the motherboard. I do not recollect whether this is correct but errors
in the SOC were relatively rare.

The final SOC shows the ELSA Gloria Synergy 8MB card (SN-PBXGK-BB) as
an available option, but whether it is supported (or works well enough
for what you want) under VMS is a slightly different question. I'm
assuming you want VMS. I could be wrong. If it is VMS, there is some
PBXGK discussion in comp.os.vms which you might want to check. There
is some OS-independent discussion too, related to "ringing" on the
video signal from this card.

In the very first SOC for this box, the PBXGB-AA and PBXGB-CA (the
TGA2 aka PowerStorm 3D30 and Powerstorm 4D20) are listed as supported
options under all three OSes (VMS, Unix, NT). Whether it is relevant
to you depends on what you want to do.

This was a server, so not many graphics cards would have been
qualified.

Apologies if this is stuff that you already knew.
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