Punter Protocol for PC?
Andrew Wiskow
Punter transfer protocol?
-Andrew
Jim Lawless
If you can find a Windows term that will shell out to an external
handler and you have a modem that actually uses COM1-COMn ( i.e., not
a Winmodem ) you could use an old MS-DOS external protocol handler
like PUNTR104.ZIP here:
http://www.simtel.net/pub/msdos/commprog/
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mabey even the Z-Modem protocol. I know that the Amiga can with no problem.
"Jim Lawless" <ji...@radiks.net> wrote in message
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Len
removed as I highly doubt he would want the whole world to bother him.
Steve (Punter) isn't a member of *******, but I am, and Steve's my
husband.
He doesn't know of any such terminal program, but wondered what anyone
would want it for. Is somebody still running an old Commodore BBS?
Anyway, Steve
can be contacted at.
- Sylvia
On Tue, 20 May 2003 11:22:40 GMT, "Andrew Wiskow"
<33552...@jcom.home.ne.jp> wrote:
REMOVE the NOCRAP in my address to reply.
Andrew Wiskow
to my C64 using a direct modem-to-modem connection. I've always preferred
using the Punter protocol on my C64 for transferring files, since it sends
the file information instead of having to enter it manually. But, it
doesn't look like anyone ever made a Windows terminal program with the
Punter protocol, so I'll have to use alternate protocols.
-Andrew
"Len" <Le...@sympNOCRAPatico.ca> wrote in message
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Sam Gillett
Andrew Wiskow <33552...@jcom.home.ne.jp> wrote ...
>Well, the reason I'm looking for one, is I'm transferring files from my PC
>to my C64 using a direct modem-to-modem connection. I've always preferred
>using the Punter protocol on my C64 for transferring files, since it sends
>the file information instead of having to enter it manually. But, it
>doesn't look like anyone ever made a Windows terminal program with the
>Punter protocol, so I'll have to use alternate protocols.
One nice think about Punter is that it does not add any X-modem padding to
files. And many CBM files won't work anymore with the padding added. If
you use X-modem, make sure the term program used on the C64 end can strip
the padding.
If you can use DOS term programs with the version of Windows you are using,
the link Jim Lawless provided could be the answer to your problem:
http://www.simtel.net/pub/msdos/commprog/
Download the file PUNTR104.ZIP as it is an external Punter protocol that can
be used with most of the old (early 90's) DOS terms that support external
protocols, such as Telix, Qmodem, and ProTerm.
Best regards,
Sam Gillett aka Mars Probe @ Starship Intrepid 1-972-221-4088
Last 8-bit BBS in the Dallas area. Commodore lives!
MUD
> http://www.simtel.net/pub/msdos/commprog/
>
> Download the file PUNTR104.ZIP as it is an external Punter protocol that
> can be used with most of the old (early 90's) DOS terms that support
> external protocols, such as Telix, Qmodem, and ProTerm.
Does anyone know if the source code for punter protocol exists anywhere?
coldfire
Larry Anderson
which explains how punter works (which I believe is the single file
version, the multi-punter can be extrapolated from it.) Since you don't
have a valid email I'll have to wait till you email me your address.
Larry
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Sam Gillett
Larry Anderson wrote ...
>I don't see it on the internet anymore, I have the C1 protocol text
>which explains how punter works (which I believe is the single file
>version, the multi-punter can be extrapolated from it.) Since you don't
>have a valid email I'll have to wait till you email me your address.
That file was posted to comp.sys.cbm not too long ago. He might be able to
find it using google also.
Cameron Kaiser
>I don't see it on the internet anymore, I have the C1 protocol text
>which explains how punter works (which I believe is the single file
>version, the multi-punter can be extrapolated from it.) Since you don't
>have a valid email I'll have to wait till you email me your address.
It's in the CKB, article #406:
http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/display.cgi?406
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Rick Youngman
Terminal program... the other terms I didn't ever use it , because I was a
Qmodem user..... but I used it many, many, many times in the "old" days to
call C=ommodore BBs, and transfer "true" binary files to my old 286
( my C=64 was busy running the BB's 24 - 7 at the time ) and then would use
it again to upload the files to the BBs.... ( this was before the X-1541 cables
and Star Commander and stuff ) and modem to modem was the only way to do that
stuff, cause all the stuff we use now was just being developed and was very
buggy.
Even though the Punter (4 the PC ) protocal worked very good with Qmodem , it
still would crash sometimes. If you really want to make sure you get EVERY bit
of information when going modem-to-modem between two different OS computers ,
then use Xmodem to do it..... it's slow --- it's old fashioned --- but it is the
standard protocal of all times..... and the error checking is the best.......
(thats why its so slow )
Rick
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Rick Youngman wrote ...
>The Punter protocal that Sam is talking about works GREAT with the old
>Qmodem Terminal program... the other terms I didn't ever use it , because I
>was a Qmodem user..... but I used it many, many, many times in the "old"
>days to call C=ommodore BBs, and transfer "true" binary files to my old 286
I'll have to confess that I am a Qmodem user too. But, even Qmodem (for
DOS) is starting to show its age. I still use it on a 166 Mhz machine. But
Z-modem is useless on a 2 Ghz machine. Guess I'll have to break down and
try Qmodem Pro for Windows.
> ( my C=64 was busy running the BB's 24 - 7 at the time ) and then would
>use it again to upload the files to the BBs.... ( this was before the
>X-1541 cables and Star Commander and stuff ) and modem to modem was the
>only way to do that stuff, cause all the stuff we use now was just being
>developed and was very buggy.
Wish I had a dollar for every file I transferred modem to modem in the old
days. I could take a Caribbean cruise, first class yet! ;-)
>Even though the Punter (4 the PC ) protocal worked very good with Qmodem ,
>it still would crash sometimes. If you really want to make sure you get
>EVERY bit of information when going modem-to-modem between two different OS
>computers, then use Xmodem to do it..... it's slow --- it's old
>fashioned --- but it is the standard protocal of all times..... and the
>error checking is the best....... (thats why its so slow )
Just don't forget to strip the X-modem padding on the Commodore end. Many
C64 and C128 files won't run with the X-modem padding present. (You know
that Rick. I just added it for other readers.)
Rick Youngman
Contact Tim Knight ( he hangs around here too )
He has Qmodem Pro for DOS and WINDOZE already zipped and might send it
to you if you ask nice.... ( I know because he bought the old WasteLand
BBs system and it's in the data base ).... and they are ( were ??? )
"registered" versions too.
You will have no luck AT ALL with Mustang Software , trying to get
Qmodem Pro from them.... they abandon that eon's ago.
==== Which brings up another point..... see my post "don't it pee ya off
?"
Anyway.... contact Tim, he may have the only working copy left in the
world that is zipped and ready....
I still have the original floppies for Qpro for dos and windoze, but I
don't have a PC up that has a 5 1/4 drive that works.... but if all
else fails , contact me....
Rick
Sam Gillett
Rick Youngman wrote ...
>Sam,
>
>Contact Tim Knight ( he hangs around here too )
>
>He has Qmodem Pro for DOS and WINDOZE already zipped and might send it
Thanks for the info. I think I can find it on a local BBS that runs the
Windows version of Wildcat!, which was also from Mustang. Right now the BBS
is only open to Fidonet activity. I'll try it tomorrow.
White Flame (aka David Holz)
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> I still have the original floppies for Qpro for dos and windoze, but I
> don't have a PC up that has a 5 1/4 drive that works....
Got access to a C= machine with Big Blue Reader? That would solve it, too.
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Fritz Reinders
> of information when going modem-to-modem between two different OS computers ,
> then use Xmodem to do it..... it's slow --- it's old fashioned --- but it is the
> standard protocal of all times..... and the error checking is the best.......
> (thats why its so slow )
>
For the most universal File transfer with very high reliability, C-64
version & currently supported go with Kermit.
Kermit Home page
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/
Commodore 64/128 version
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/c64.html
> >
> > If you can use DOS term programs with the version of Windows you are using,
> > the link Jim Lawless provided could be the answer to your problem:
> >
> > http://www.simtel.net/pub/msdos/commprog/
> >
> > Download the file PUNTR104.ZIP as it is an external Punter protocol that can
> > be used with most of the old (early 90's) DOS terms that support external
> > protocols, such as Telix, Qmodem, and ProTerm.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Sam Gillett aka Mars Probe @ Starship Intrepid 1-972-221-4088
> > Last 8-bit BBS in the Dallas area. Commodore lives!
There is a later version of Punter for MS-DOS. Punter v2.03
http://www.censor.net/newdesign/tools/
http://www.sentry.org/~trev/opus/173files/PUNTER23.ZIP