Commodore 1084S vs Phillips CM8802 Monitor
Overdoc
I currently have a Phillips CM8802 monitor, and I use it both for the C64
and the A-500.
I have noticed that the Amiga has a fine display on this monitor, but the
C64 picture looks a bit blurred, at least compared to the Commodore 1901
which I had before and which had a great display.
Now I have the opportunity to get a 1084S monitor.
How would you rate the 1084S in his C64 display on one hand, and the Amiga
display on the other ?
Would it be wise to buy the 1084S and sell the Phillips CM8802 ?
Thanks for your help,
Overdoc
Christian Link
>I currently have a Phillips CM8802 monitor, and I use it both for the C64
>and the A-500.
>I have noticed that the Amiga has a fine display on this monitor, but the
>C64 picture looks a bit blurred, at least compared to the Commodore 1901
>which I had before and which had a great display.
I can't recall my own experiences with my old 8802(non "-II"), but the
picture has always been okay for me. Sure, it isn't as razor sharp as
the AMIGA's, and probably worse than the 1901 (at least if the 8802
had only a composite input, as opposed to the separate chroma/luma the
1901 provided!), but it was still okay.
>Now I have the opportunity to get a 1084S monitor.
>How would you rate the 1084S in his C64 display on one hand, and the Amiga
>display on the other ?
I've just acquired my first 1084S (the older, 1081-look-a-like model,
not the thing people often refer to as "D1" or something like that),
and I'm perfectly happy with it. The picture of the AMIGA is as good
as on other monitors, too, and the C64 picture is as sharp as can be -
provided you use the chroma/luma input jacks this model provides
(which I, thanks to Nicolas ;-), did).
>Would it be wise to buy the 1084S and sell the Phillips CM8802 ?
If you're really that dissatisfied with your 8802's "8-bit-picture",
and if you can get the 1084S at the same price you intend to sell the
Phillips monitor at, give it a try. You obviously have a comparably
bad unit, so things can (actually) only get better ;-) . But even
though this may sound a little "wanna-be-wise": Do not forget that you
know what you have, but maybe not what you'll get. An *old*, worn-out
1084S won't win you anything!
Oh, and before I forget: There have been many monitor models been sold
by Commodore that actually _were_ Phillips monitors (the 1901,
however, was a Thompson, if I remember correctly). I only know that
Commodore had models with the 8802 (-II?) hardware in it, but whether
it was the 1084S (which would make it a senseless deal ;-) ...), I
cannot recall. I'd wager it was the 1081, though, given it had the
same features as the 8802 (green switch, possibly the sharpness
control, etc.).
Greetings,
Chris.
Overdoc
Christian Link schrieb in Nachricht
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>I can't recall my own experiences with my old 8802(non "-II"), but the
>picture has always been okay for me. Sure, it isn't as razor sharp as
>the AMIGA's, and probably worse than the 1901 (at least if the 8802
>had only a composite input, as opposed to the separate chroma/luma the
>1901 provided!), but it was still okay.
>
Well, I have the C64 hooked up via the (euro)-scart connector. I haven't
checked the cable how it is wired and if it uses chroma/luma or composite
and also don't know what pins of the Phillips's scart connector are actually
connected.
>I've just acquired my first 1084S (the older, 1081-look-a-like model,
>not the thing people often refer to as "D1" or something like that),
>and I'm perfectly happy with it. The picture of the AMIGA is as good
>as on other monitors, too, and the C64 picture is as sharp as can be -
>provided you use the chroma/luma input jacks this model provides
>(which I, thanks to Nicolas ;-), did).
>
Yes, sure, I would like to hook up the C64 cia chroma/luma and the Amiga via
RGB analogue :)
>If you're really that dissatisfied with your 8802's "8-bit-picture",
>and if you can get the 1084S at the same price you intend to sell the
>Phillips monitor at, give it a try.
Yes, I know somebody who has just got an Amiga 500 and needs a monitor for
it. So he will happily buy a monitor from me :)
I think you are right, I should give it a try and see for myself because I
don't have to lose anything.
>You obviously have a comparably
>bad unit, so things can (actually) only get better ;-) .
I don't want to say the 8802's picture is bad. The picture is fine, but in
my opinion not as fine as the 1901's picture was. This may also have
something to do with the fact that the 8802 isn't de-mirrored ( is that the
proper english word ? )
>But even
>though this may sound a little "wanna-be-wise": Do not forget that you
>know what you have, but maybe not what you'll get. An *old*, worn-out
>1084S won't win you anything!
>
That's no problem, because I also bought the 8802 just a short time ago,
used of course.
So I have no idea how much it has been used...
>Oh, and before I forget: There have been many monitor models been sold
>by Commodore that actually _were_ Phillips monitors (the 1901,
>however, was a Thompson, if I remember correctly). I only know that
>Commodore had models with the 8802 (-II?) hardware in it, but whether
>it was the 1084S (which would make it a senseless deal ;-) ...), I
>cannot recall. I'd wager it was the 1081, though, given it had the
>same features as the 8802 (green switch, possibly the sharpness
>control, etc.).
>
Thanks for your info :)
I will buy the 1084S and hope it will be one of these which have all
connectors on the back, because I have read that there are many different
versions of this monitor and some are missing some connectors
( hopefully it will have the chroma/luma input... )
Overdoc