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microman

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Dec 10, 2003, 2:47:17 PM12/10/03
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I need to accomplish three kinds of transfers:

I plan to download a ton of software off the net. I will move it onto
native 1541 and 1581 disks, then use those to transfer the programs onto my
Ltk for the BBS and other uses.

Do you guys recommed these PC tools?

1. Star Commander for 1541 native file and disk format conversion (.d64,
etc)
2. 1581COPY for 1581 native file and disk format conversion (.d81, etc)
3. 64COPY for handling various native CBM archive formats.

Which copy/conversion tools should I run on the C64/128?

Keep in mind I also have a LtK that I need to copy this stuff onto once I
have software on CBM native disks.

I'd like to minimize the number of programs I have to run, it would be great
if I had one do-it-all program for the PC, and one for the CBM.

I guess I'd like to know what each of you like to use.


Michael Hunter

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Dec 10, 2003, 3:05:00 PM12/10/03
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Hello Microman,

> Keep in mind I also have a LtK that I need to copy this stuff onto
> once I have software on CBM native disks.

If it were me, and all I wanted to do was get the files on a LtK hard
drive, I would probably place all the downloaded files on an MS-DOS
disk, and then read them using Little Red Reader on the Commodore 128
(or Tiny Yellow Brother on the C-64).

This would seem to be the most direct route. You would simply use one
of the above mentioned programs to read the MS-DOS disk, and copy it's
contents to your LtK hard drive.

If you are actually wanting to have them on Commodore floppy disks as
well; then yes, I would probably go ahead and use Star Commander and
some of the other utilities that you mentioned.

For information about Little Red Reader, Tiny Yellow Brother, and some
of the D64 software available for the Commodore 64 and 128, check out
my articles at:
http://www.8bitdesigns.com/howto.html

You can also download the above mentioned programs from my website at:
http://www.8bitdesigns.com/downloads.html

I have used Little Red Reader for a considerable number of file
transfers, and have found it to be very reliable.

I guess the best method to use would probably depend on whether you
actually desire to have the files on actual Commodore floppy disks.
If not, I would probably read them as I described above, and copy them
to your hard drive. I think this would probably save you a few steps.

Michael Hunter
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Sam Gillett

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Dec 10, 2003, 3:41:51 PM12/10/03
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Michael Hunter wrote ...

>Hello Microman,

I think Michael forgot to mention that once you have a .d64 or .d81 on the
Lt Kernal you can use Errol Smith's d64it, or d128it, to extract the files
from the disk image. If you left the disk images zipped after download you
can unzip and extract from the image in one step with unzip64v2.15, or
unzip128v2.15.

All program mentioned above can be found at:

http://www.ros.com.au/~errol/64.html

Best regards,

Sam Gillett aka Mars Probe @ Starship Intrepid 1-972-221-4088

microman

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Dec 10, 2003, 5:02:06 PM12/10/03
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Thanks for the tips, I keep forgetting about LRR!

Sounds like the best way to go is PC->MSDOS 720k Disk -> 1581 Drive ->
LRR/TYB -> LTK -> native formatted disks

-Jeff


tendim

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Dec 10, 2003, 8:56:16 PM12/10/03
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microman <micr...@cox.net> wrote:

While the original author never mentioned sacraficing another computer
in the process..

Could he not use 64NET, d/l all files to the PC, hook up the C64 to the
PC via 64NET, and then use a generic copy program to copy from the 64NET
pc to the LtK?

Once on the LtK he can do what he needs to do, with the tool of his
choice for converting .d64 images.


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tendim

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Dec 10, 2003, 8:57:45 PM12/10/03
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If your primary goal is to get the files to the LtK first, build
yourself a Swiftlink type cartridge, download a terminal that supports
it, and do a mass file transfer via null modem cable and YModem or
ZModem to the CBM machine from the PC.

Once on your LtK you can do as you wish.

-cr/rpg

microman

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Dec 11, 2003, 3:32:40 PM12/11/03
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"tendim" <pat...@NOtendim.cjb.netSPAM> wrote in message
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> If your primary goal is to get the files to the LtK first, build
> yourself a Swiftlink type cartridge, download a terminal that supports
> it, and do a mass file transfer via null modem cable and YModem or
> ZModem to the CBM machine from the PC.
>
> Once on your LtK you can do as you wish.

How exactly is this done? I will d/l files to the Win98 box, and then load a
term program on the 128 that supports Ymodem/Zmodem batch. Do I start a
batch upload on the PC then to autostart the d/l on the 128? I only have a
2400 BPS VIC-1011A RS232C interface. Maybe it would be better to connect my
XE1541 to 64HDD on the Win98 box, this would be faster maybe?

-Jeff


tendim

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Dec 11, 2003, 9:14:05 PM12/11/03
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microman <micr...@cox.net> wrote:

If you do not have a Swiftlink type cartridge, then yes, using the
XE1541 would definately be faster. Using a regular RS232 adapter only
gets you up to 2400 BPS, or 9600 BPS under DesTerm on the C128. Hardly
a match for copying directly to the 1541 via XE1541 cable.

-cr/rpg

>
> -Jeff

Mike Paull

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Dec 12, 2003, 7:34:46 PM12/12/03
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Hi Microman,

I was in a similar situation to you. I'd just aquired a CMD-HD and had my
entire c64 software collection plus a few years worth of downloads in D64
format that I had burnt to a CD.

I went looking for a solution that would let me get these images onto the
CMD hard drive and the answer wasn't even something I had originally about.

I put all my image files on a pc I built (p100, win98/dos), made up an
x1541 cable and installed a copy of 64HDD Proffesional.

The cool thing about 64hdd is it can "mount" a .D64 after which the 64 will
see the image as a regular 1541 with a disk in it. All commands for
mounting, unmounting, directory list, etc are sent from the 64.

You'll need to find a copier thats compatible with 64HDD and your
Lt.kernal, something that doesn't use any fancy tricks or speedloaders.
I had the advantage in that 64HDD Proffesional is compatible with CMD
software such as JiffyDOS's built in file copier so I use that. I'm sure
you'd be able to find a non frills file copier. One might be included in
the 64HDD package even, not sure.

Anyway, you can download the freeware version of 64HDD from www.64hdd.com
or just the manual if you only want to familiarise yourself with it.

Mike

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