can the 64 be a good vt100 terminal?
Andrew D Malek
Danny R. Faught
able to call in to a supercomputer Unix box from home on my 64, (what a
rush for my little 64!) and I was wondering how well it would work.
For one thing, does most terminal software have good vt100 or similar
terminal emulation? And how does it do it with only a 40 column screen?
Horizontal scrolling?
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Eric Eisenhart
Yeah, with the proper terminal program. I would recommend the latest version of NovaTerm (up to 9.4, but I still am using 9.3).. it has
decent (though not perfect) vt102 emulation. (and with vt series emulation,
a higher number means it supports all the emulation levels below it.)
It even has 80 columns, but you have to get used to it. and I do
mean 80 columns on your 40 column monitor. (does it in an interesting
fashion too.)
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Michael W. Kelley
You can run up to 2400 without any modifications at all, and
9600 with the addition of a SwiftLink cartridge.
For VT100, I would recommend NovaTerm 9.4, Terminal 1.817,
or Kermit 2.2 for the 64. All 3 have an 80 column emulation
mode for the 64, but you will probably have to adjust your
contrast and brightness even if you have a monitor for it
to be really legible.
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Mark Shepherd
Michael mentioned Terminal 1.1817. Does anyone know if this is
available on any FTP sites anywhere? I've been looking for this
for quite some time and want to give it a try.
Any helpful information on Terminal 1 would be greatly appreciated.
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Brent Busby
In a previous article, ac...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley) says:
>In a previous article, fau...@convex.com (Danny R. Faught) says:
>>For one thing, does most terminal software have good vt100 or similar
>>terminal emulation? And how does it do it with only a 40 column screen?
>>Horizontal scrolling?
>You can run up to 2400 without any modifications at all, and
>9600 with the addition of a SwiftLink cartridge.
>For VT100, I would recommend NovaTerm 9.4, Terminal 1.817,
>or Kermit 2.2 for the 64. All 3 have an 80 column emulation
>mode for the 64, but you will probably have to adjust your
>contrast and brightness even if you have a monitor for it
>to be really legible.
Please give me more information on this Teminal 1.817 and especially on
Kermit v2.2 - I've never heard of these. I'm running a Commodore-128 with
DesTerm, but I have NovaTerm Version 9.4 available. I need to find some way
to download from a UNIX host using Kermit, but the host is using space parity
and it doesn't appear that this can be changed. DesTerm supports space
parity, but I don't know of any way of using Kermit with DesTerm. NovaTerm
has the opposite problem: NovaTerm has Kermit, but doesn't seem to support
space parity. Does this Kermit 2.2 program (or maybe the Terminal 1.817 one)
support both Kermit transfers and space parity?
Brent Busby
In a previous article, ac...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley) says:
>If you can't find it, send me a disk and $1 and I'll ship it to you (you
>COULD put something on the disk, of course). I also have the version that
>supports Swiftlink, Terminal 1.818.
>Michael Kelley
>P.O. Box 193
>No. Ridgeville, OH 44039-0193
What is it though? I'm trying to find out what it and also Kermit v2.2 are
so that I can find out if they'll be what I'm looking for. Do they allow
downloading with Kermit protocol using space parity?
Brent Busby
>Terminal 1.817 has excellent 80 column and VT100 support, but no Kermit
>protocol. Kermit 2.2 is not the easiest term to use, but it can be
>configured as youwant it, and will utilize the 80 column mode of the
>128 whle running in 64 mode.
>Send a disk and $1 and I'll send you both programs with docs, etc..
>Michael Kelley
>P.O. Box 193
>No. Ridgeville, OH 44039-0193
Sorry, I guess I replied in my last message too soon. But will Kermit 2.2
allow Kermit downloads with space parity?
Michael W. Kelley
>Please give me more information on this Teminal 1.817 and especially on
>Kermit v2.2 - I've never heard of these. I'm running a Commodore-128 with
>DesTerm, but I have NovaTerm Version 9.4 available. I need to find some way
>to download from a UNIX host using Kermit, but the host is using space parity
>and it doesn't appear that this can be changed. DesTerm supports space
>parity, but I don't know of any way of using Kermit with DesTerm. NovaTerm
>has the opposite problem: NovaTerm has Kermit, but doesn't seem to support
>space parity. Does this Kermit 2.2 program (or maybe the Terminal 1.817 one)
>support both Kermit transfers and space parity?
>
Terminal 1.817 has excellent 80 column and VT100 support, but no Kermit
protocol. Kermit 2.2 is not the easiest term to use, but it can be
configured as youwant it, and will utilize the 80 column mode of the
128 whle running in 64 mode.
Send a disk and $1 and I'll send you both programs with docs, etc..
Michael Kelley
P.O. Box 193
No. Ridgeville, OH 44039-0193
Michael W. Kelley
If you can't find it, send me a disk and $1 and I'll ship it to you (you
COULD put something on the disk, of course). I also have the version that
supports Swiftlink, Terminal 1.818.
Michael Kelley
P.O. Box 193
No. Ridgeville, OH 44039-0193
DARREL
modem end of it. (for anthropology of computer class). Anyway, i have the
Common Sense program, but it is not a vt100 type of program. It has been
recommended by faculty and the operators at the university that i find such
a program. Would you know where i could locate such a thing? You seem to
know a bit about these 64's.
Thanks from a 64 user.
By the way, notice how surprised people are by the 64's "small" power?
Darrel.
Michael W. Kelley
I would recommend NovaTerm 9.4 to do everything you
want and then some. If you can't locate it locally, I can send it to
you for $1 and a blank disk.
Send to:
Michael Kelley
P.O. Box 193
No. Ridgeville, OH 44039-0193
This offer goes to anyone that can't find it locally, or does not have FTP
access. Of course, you can always include utilities on the disk
you send me. ;>