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Douglas Carroll

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Nov 23, 2004, 9:36:49 PM11/23/04
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Hey, thanks to everyone out there who has contributed to the complete
(?) Commodore 128 Commercial software list. Here is the NEWEST
version...Thanks!!

Commercial Commodore 128 Specific Software

3-D Canvas v1.7
Accountant, Inc. 128
A Mind Forever Voyaging
Basic 8
Basic 8 Toolkit
Basic Compiler 128
Better Working WordPro 128
Beurocracy
Beyond Zork
Big Blue Reader
Blitz 128
Bobsterm Pro 128
Brainstorm 128
Buddy 128 Assembler Development System
Business Form Shop
CadPak 128
ChartPak 128
CMS General Accounting 128
CMS Inventory 128
Cobol 128
Colorez 128
Copy II Version 3.4
Data Manager 128
DeskPack Plus
DFile 128
Dialogue 128
Digitalker 128
Family Roots 128
FasTrac 128
File 128
Fleet System 4
Flex File 128 Database
Fontmaster 128
FontPack Plus
Format Executive 3.0
GEOS 128
Geo-Calc 128
Geo-Fax
Geo-File 128
Geo-Shell
Geo-Write 128
Ghostwriter 128
Gnome Speed Compiler 128
Home designer 128
Ipaint
Jane
KFS Accountant 128
Keyboard Controlled Sequencer
Kikstart 128
Kyan Pascal
Landmark 2.0: The Computer Reference Bible
Last V8
Mach 128
Maidstone Quest
Mail List 128
Master Paint
Matrix 128
Merlin 128
Micro Detective Automatic Error Detection
MicroIllustrator 128
News Maker 128
Oxford Pascal 128
Paperback Filer
Paperback Writer
Paperclip III
Partner 128
Personal Portfolio Manager 128
Pocket Filer 3
Pocket Planner 3
Pocket Writer 3
Poster Maker 128
PPM 128
Proterm 128
Protolinc BBS
RAMDOS
SEC Check Register 128
Securities Analyst 128
ShadowDOS
Sideways 128
Sketchpad 128
Sm Compiler 128
Spectrum 128
Speedterm 128
Superbase 128
Super 81 Utilities 128
Super C 128
Super Disk Librarian 128
Super Disk Utilities 128
Super Pascal 128
Super Sequencer 128
Superscript 128
Swiftcalc 128
Sylvia Porter's Investment Manager 128
Tarot 128
Technical Analysis System 128
Team-Mate 128
Term Paper Writer
Thai Boxing 128
The strategist
TISAR 128 V2.2
Trinity
Ultima V *
VizaStar 128
VizaWrite 128
Warp Speed
Wheels 128
Wordfile 128
Word Pro 128
Word Writer 128
Word Worker
Write Stuff 128
XREF BASIC Cross Reference


* Programs with Asterix next to them run in 64 mode but are enhanced
when run on a 128.

Douglas Carroll

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Nov 23, 2004, 10:53:56 PM11/23/04
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Sorry about this...yet another update with a few more that I forgot to
add...newest list.....

Commercial Commodore 128 Specific Software


1581 Tool Kit


3-D Canvas v1.7
Accountant, Inc. 128
A Mind Forever Voyaging
Basic 8
Basic 8 Toolkit
Basic Compiler 128
Better Working WordPro 128
Beurocracy
Beyond Zork
Big Blue Reader
Blitz 128
Bobsterm Pro 128
Brainstorm 128
Buddy 128 Assembler Development System
Business Form Shop

CBase BBS
CadPak 128
ChartPak 128
Checkbook

Guitar Tuner


Home designer 128
Ipaint
Jane
KFS Accountant 128
Keyboard Controlled Sequencer
Kikstart 128
Kyan Pascal
Landmark 2.0: The Computer Reference Bible
Last V8
Mach 128
Maidstone Quest
Mail List 128

Many Happy Returns


Master Paint
Matrix 128
Merlin 128
Micro Detective Automatic Error Detection
MicroIllustrator 128

Money Works


News Maker 128
Oxford Pascal 128
Paperback Filer
Paperback Writer
Paperclip III
Partner 128
Personal Portfolio Manager 128
Pocket Filer 3
Pocket Planner 3
Pocket Writer 3
Poster Maker 128
PPM 128
Proterm 128
Protolinc BBS

Pro Tutor Accounting


RAMDOS
SEC Check Register 128
Securities Analyst 128
ShadowDOS
Sideways 128
Sketchpad 128
Sm Compiler 128
Spectrum 128
Speedterm 128

StoryWriter 128

Robert Bernardo

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Nov 24, 2004, 2:34:34 AM11/24/04
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Douglas Carroll wrote:

> Sorry about this...yet another update with a few more that I forgot to
> add...newest list.....

I might have a few more to add to the list in a few days.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug

Andreas Berger

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Nov 24, 2004, 3:16:11 AM11/24/04
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Douglas Carroll <dcarr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hey, thanks to everyone out there who has contributed to the complete
> (?) Commodore 128 Commercial software list. Here is the NEWEST
> version...Thanks!!

What about GEOS MegaPatch3 128, it runs in Color AND 640x200 on an
64kB VRAM equipped C128. (in opposite to wheels128)

regards, Andreas

Robert Bernardo

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Nov 24, 2004, 3:40:41 AM11/24/04
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Douglas Carroll wrote:

> 1581 Tool Kit

The 1581 Toolkit is not a 128 program but a 64 program.

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Douglas Carroll

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Nov 24, 2004, 9:59:04 AM11/24/04
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Andreas,

Was this a commercial program? Is it available for download anywhere?

Thanks!!

Douglas

:)

In article <8487c058.04112...@posting.google.com>,

Niklas Ramsberg

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Nov 24, 2004, 9:57:42 AM11/24/04
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Douglas Carroll <dcarr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<dcarroll14-CF5A7...@news1.west.earthlink.net>...

> Hey, thanks to everyone out there who has contributed to the complete
> (?) Commodore 128 Commercial software list. Here is the NEWEST
> version...Thanks!!
[snip]

> * Programs with Asterix next to them run in 64 mode but are enhanced
> when run on a 128.

Then we should also include Gunship (military helicopter simulation)
which puts the processor in 2MHz mode when the raster beam is
offscreen. Don't know if Novaterm is considered a commercial program
(I think it was sold as shareware), but if you run it in 64 mode on a
128 you get access to the 128's 80-column screen and you can use part
of the VDC memory as a RAM disk (IIRC).

Niklas Ramsberg
aka
< .
(:) Bacon
< .

Douglas Carroll

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Nov 24, 2004, 9:57:06 AM11/24/04
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Bernardo,

1581 Toolkit is supposed to run under the 128 in 128 mode...I'll double
check for certain this week....

Douglas

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Douglas Carroll

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Nov 24, 2004, 9:57:42 AM11/24/04
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I cannot confirm this for certain...can anyone else?

Douglas


In article <ja59q095ee9vq1qlh...@4ax.com>,
Milton Banana <bl...@nildram.com> wrote:

> Wasn't there a version of the game Rocky Horror Show for the C128?

Sam Gillett

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Nov 24, 2004, 1:38:31 PM11/24/04
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"Niklas Ramsberg" wrote ...

> Then we should also include Gunship (military helicopter simulation)
> which puts the processor in 2MHz mode when the raster beam is
> offscreen. Don't know if Novaterm is considered a commercial program
> (I think it was sold as shareware), but if you run it in 64 mode on a
> 128 you get access to the 128's 80-column screen and you can use part
> of the VDC memory as a RAM disk (IIRC).

If we include shareware, we can probably add at least a thousand titles to
the list of C128 software. :-)
--
Best regards,

Sam Gillett

Change is inevitable,
except from vending machines!


Cameron Kaiser

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Nov 24, 2004, 6:44:19 PM11/24/04
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Milton Banana <bl...@nildram.com> writes:

>Wasn't there a version of the game Rocky Horror Show for the C128?

Yes. The Last V8 and Ultima 6? also come to mind.

--
Cameron Kaiser * cka...@floodgap.com * posting with a Commodore 128
personal page: http://www.armory.com/%7Espectre/
** Computer Workshops: games, productivity software and more for C64/128! **
** http://www.armory.com/%7Espectre/cwi/ **

Cameron Kaiser

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Nov 24, 2004, 6:44:49 PM11/24/04
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"Sam Gillett" <samgille...@diespammermsn.com> writes:

>>Then we should also include Gunship (military helicopter simulation)
>>which puts the processor in 2MHz mode when the raster beam is
>>offscreen. Don't know if Novaterm is considered a commercial program
>>(I think it was sold as shareware), but if you run it in 64 mode on a
>>128 you get access to the 128's 80-column screen and you can use part
>>of the VDC memory as a RAM disk (IIRC).

>If we include shareware, we can probably add at least a thousand titles to
>the list of C128 software. :-)

<plug=shameless>HyperLink 2.5e ... </plug>

Anton Treuenfels

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Nov 25, 2004, 12:07:12 AM11/25/04
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"Douglas Carroll" <dcarr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dcarroll14-CF5A7...@news1.west.earthlink.net...

> Ultima V *


>
> * Programs with Asterix next to them run in 64 mode but are enhanced
> when run on a 128.

Then you can add Wizardry 1,2,3 and 5. They use VDC and Bank 1 RAM to stash
overlays that are otherwise loaded from disk in the C64 versions (unless
either has a REU, which can usually stash the whole game by themselves).
They can also use burst mode if 1571 drives are present.


Douglas Carroll

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Nov 25, 2004, 12:14:32 AM11/25/04
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Hmmmmm...I don't think that I can put these in the list...all they are
doing is looking for extra RAM and I suppose would do the same thing on
a C64 if there was a ram expander present. In the Case of Ultima VI
(NOT Ultima V..My error) the game is supposed to play music ONLY on a
c128 NOT on a 64 no matter what is attached to it..this is my
understanding..please correct me if wrong. Soooooo..Ultima IV is
enhanced by running on a c128 while the Wizardy games seem to only look
for and use extra ram if present, a feat possible with a regular C64.


In article <4Mdpd.4179$uV6...@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,

Sam Gillett

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Nov 25, 2004, 2:55:17 AM11/25/04
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"Cameron Kaiser" wrote ...

> "Sam Gillett" <samgille...@diespammermsn.com> writes:
>
>>If we include shareware, we can probably add at least a thousand titles to
>>the list of C128 software. :-)
>
> <plug=shameless>HyperLink 2.5e ... </plug>

A shameless plus in HTML... Cool! ;-)

Niklas Ramsberg

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Nov 25, 2004, 6:59:18 AM11/25/04
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Douglas Carroll <dcarr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<dcarroll14-
F38B4E.211...@news1.west.earthlink.net>...

> Hmmmmm...I don't think that I can put these in the list...all they are
> doing is looking for extra RAM and I suppose would do the same thing on
> a C64 if there was a ram expander present.

Well, not really. Look again at what the original poster said. They
use the VDC memory and Bank 1 RAM, both of which is only available on
a C128, expanded or not. In addition, they can use an REU, which of
course can be connected to either a C128 or a C64. That's two (three
if you count the VDC and Bank1 RAM separately) very different types of
memory, one (or two; see above) of which is available on every stock
C128 but that you can't have on a C64.

> In the Case of Ultima VI (NOT Ultima V..My error) the game is supposed to
> play music ONLY on a c128 NOT on a 64 no matter what is attached to it..this
> is my understanding..please correct me if wrong.

Correct.

> Soooooo..Ultima IV is enhanced by running on a c128 while the Wizardy games
> seem to only look for and use extra ram if present, a feat possible with a
> regular C64.

See above.

Kelly Fergason

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Nov 25, 2004, 9:55:36 AM11/25/04
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TSDS (total software development system)
came in 64 and 128 versions. Both were included when you bought the
product.

128 version used the REU and more memory for bigger symbol tables.

kelly

Andreas Berger

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Nov 25, 2004, 12:08:56 PM11/25/04
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Douglas Carroll schrieb:

> Was this a commercial program?

Yes! Take a lokk here:
http://c64.webgrimm.de/c64_geos_mp3_e.htm

or see "my" C128:
http://people.freenet.de/a_berger/images/C128D_80Zeichen.jpg

some projects for this:
http://home.t-online.de/home/wweicht/projekte.htm

> Is it available for download anywhere?

I doubt. A demo is here:
http://c64.webgrimm.de/downld_e.htm

regards, Andreas

Douglas Carroll

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Nov 25, 2004, 1:15:17 PM11/25/04
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Hello!

I have created a addendum to the list and moved Ultima VI there and
added wizardry and others...

"Programs enhanced when run in c-64 mode on a c-128"

How does that sound?

Thanks for the input!!

Douglas

:)


In article <e22cbe5c.04112...@posting.google.com>,

Jouni Nordlund

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Nov 25, 2004, 3:23:19 PM11/25/04
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Cameron Kaiser kirjoitti viestissä
<41a51c15$0$93259$45be...@newscene.com>:

> Yes. The Last V8 and Ultima 6? also come to mind.

Last V8 was listed, but I think Petspeed 128 was not.

--
Jouni Nordlund
Anything worth having is worth cheating for. - W.C. Fields

Douglas Carroll

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Nov 25, 2004, 5:38:33 PM11/25/04
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What is Petspeed 128?

Douglas

:)


In article <MPG.1c10672b8...@news.mbnet.fi>,

Anders Carlsson

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Nov 26, 2004, 5:25:06 AM11/26/04
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Douglas Carroll <dcarr...@earthlink.net> writes:

> What is Petspeed 128?

Basic compiler, to make your Basic software more like machine code
and run it faster than the interpreter would. Compare with Pascal[1]
or C, which both traditionally require a compiler to run.

[1] Well, in the case the compiler outputs P-Code, I suppose you
need an interpreter too?

--
Anders Carlsson

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