c128 rgbi in c64 mode
Hatta
doesn't do a thing in c64 mode which is what most of my programs are for is
there a way around this? Can the rgbi out put display 40 columns? Can I put a
connect the video output to the monitor. I'd kinda like to get my 1702
monitor off my desk and on to more productive things. Thanks.
-Mad Hatter
Cameron Kaiser
>Hey, I've got a cga monitor hooked to my c128, and it's beautiful, but it
>doesn't do a thing in c64 mode which is what most of my programs are for is
>there a way around this? Can the rgbi out put display 40 columns? Can I
>connect the video output to the monitor. I'd kinda like to get my 1702
>monitor off my desk and on to more productive things. Thanks.
No, it can't, unfortunately. The only dual mode monitor widely available
is the 1902, and it can display both composite and RGB. I use one with my
128, and if you spend a fair amount of time in 80-column mode as well as
40-column, it's the only monitor that really makes sense.
One other alternative, though, is to connect the luminance pin of the
VDC port to the front video jack of your 1702. This gives you only (a bit
blurry) B&W 80-columns, but at least you only need one monitor. I did this
for awhile until I got this 1902.
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Cameron Kaiser
>No, it can't, unfortunately. The only dual mode monitor widely available
>is the 1902, and it can display both composite and RGB. I use one with my
Oops -- you could also try the 1084, and a couple of others. But the
1902 was made specifically for the 128.
Forte Inc
<cka...@stockholm.ptloma.edu> wrote:
>Cameron Kaiser <cka...@stockholm.ptloma.edu> writes:
>
>>No, it can't, unfortunately. The only dual mode monitor widely available
>>is the 1902, and it can display both composite and RGB. I use one with my
>
>Oops -- you could also try the 1084, and a couple of others. But the
>1902 was made specifically for the 128.
I found an old Thomson monitor at a Value Village that does 40 column
(composite), green/amber 80 column and full color 80 column. : )
Ray
wrote:
>ha...@softhome.net (Hatta) writes:
>
>>Hey, I've got a cga monitor hooked to my c128, and it's beautiful, but it
>>doesn't do a thing in c64 mode which is what most of my programs are for is
>>there a way around this? Can the rgbi out put display 40 columns? Can I
>>connect the video output to the monitor. I'd kinda like to get my 1702
>>monitor off my desk and on to more productive things. Thanks.
>
>No, it can't, unfortunately. The only dual mode monitor widely available
>is the 1902, and it can display both composite and RGB. I use one with my
>128, and if you spend a fair amount of time in 80-column mode as well as
>40-column, it's the only monitor that really makes sense.
>
>One other alternative, though, is to connect the luminance pin of the
>VDC port to the front video jack of your 1702. This gives you only (a bit
>blurry) B&W 80-columns, but at least you only need one monitor. I did this
>for awhile until I got this 1902.
I'm using a SONY KV-1311CR monitor on my C-128. Not only is it dual mode (and
COLOR in 80 column mode), it's also got a TV tuner in it so I can watch TV
when I'm not using my 128!
73 de
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visible in the C64 memory space and thus can be programmed. I also recall
that it CAN output 40 columns. Now all you have to do is rewrite the code
for the Kernal and learn to live without sprites or any program which
assumes that the VIC II chip is hooked up to something....
Steve
Ray wrote in message <37fa5c66.5514191@news-server>...
kh6...@nospampe.net
: I'm using a SONY KV-1311CR monitor on my C-128. Not only is it dual mode (and
: COLOR in 80 column mode), it's also got a TV tuner in it so I can watch TV
: when I'm not using my 128!
I am jealous.
: -==*>Ray - KG2QV<*==-
: ============================================================
: "This year will go down in history. For the first time, a
: civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our
: police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
: Adolph Hitler 1935
: ============================================================
I am a memeber of the NRA. But...
Hitler never said that.
Pascal Gienger
wrote:
>ha...@softhome.net (Hatta) writes:
>
>>Hey, I've got a cga monitor hooked to my c128, and it's beautiful, but it
>>doesn't do a thing in c64 mode which is what most of my programs are for is
>>there a way around this? Can the rgbi out put display 40 columns? Can I
>>connect the video output to the monitor. I'd kinda like to get my 1702
>>monitor off my desk and on to more productive things. Thanks.
>
>No, it can't, unfortunately. The only dual mode monitor widely available
>is the 1902, and it can display both composite and RGB. I use one with my
Don't forget the 1901. There were also some Philips TV-sets using a supple-
metary pin(*) of the scart plug for the intensity wire, and the 3 analog
RGB pins for digital RGB input. My parents do have one of them, and now
they know what's the "RGBI" flag accessible for Scart-Connector 1... ;-)
The new ones do not have these feature however, they do have one connector
for analog RGB and the other for Y/C (S-Video) input/output (you cannot
mix S-Video and RGB on one scart plug, because chroma information uses
pin 15 which is the "red" wire for RGB input).
Should'nt it be possible to use some kind of circuitry to convert
RGBI to analog RGB? Should not be so difficult, to produce 2 output
levels per wire, depending on the state of the intensity output.
(*) They used pin 10. Nowadays pin 10,12 and 14 are used to communicate
with the TV set (e.g. automatic programming of VCRs etc.)
Pascal
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Cameron Kaiser
>>>Hey, I've got a cga monitor hooked to my c128, and it's beautiful, but it
>>>doesn't do a thing in c64 mode which is what most of my programs are for is
>>>there a way around this? Can the rgbi out put display 40 columns? Can I
>>>connect the video output to the monitor. I'd kinda like to get my 1702
>>>monitor off my desk and on to more productive things. Thanks.
>>No, it can't, unfortunately. The only dual mode monitor widely available
>>is the 1902, and it can display both composite and RGB. I use one with my
>Don't forget the 1901. There were also some Philips TV-sets using a supple-
Yes, yes, I already recanted :-P Funny how the erroneous post is the one
people tend to follow-up to and propagate. ;-)
Martin Brunner
>>Hey, I've got a cga monitor hooked to my c128, and it's beautiful, but it
>>doesn't do a thing in c64 mode which is what most of my programs are for is
>>there a way around this? Can the rgbi out put display 40 columns? Can I
>>connect the video output to the monitor. I'd kinda like to get my 1702
>>monitor off my desk and on to more productive things. Thanks.
>
>No, it can't, unfortunately. The only dual mode monitor widely available
>is the 1902, and it can display both composite and RGB.
But the 1024 also has RGB. You can connect the RGB of the C128 either
to the RGB in of the Monitor, or to it's Scart connector (the long on
with 21 pin I think). This is what I had to do when I had the Philips
clone of the 1024 which didn't have the RGB-in.
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Ray
You can be so positive of this?
Martijn van Buul
> But the 1024 also has RGB. You can connect the RGB of the C128 either
> to the RGB in of the Monitor, or to it's Scart connector (the long on
> with 21 pin I think). This is what I had to do when I had the Philips
> clone of the 1024 which didn't have the RGB-in.
Eh. Sorry, but, if memory serves me right, the 1084 is a clone from
a Philips monitor, not the other way 'round :)
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Alan Jones
wrote:
>Should'nt it be possible to use some kind of circuitry to convert
>RGBI to analog RGB? Should not be so difficult, to produce 2 output
>levels per wire, depending on the state of the intensity output.
>
>Pascal
Someone posted a simple circuit to convert thr RGBI signal to analog
RGB. This enables an old Sony XBR-25 and similar sets to display the
the 128 RGBI output, as well as switch between the 40 column output
displays, and TV. I have a Sony XBR-25, but I never got around to
making the RGB(I) adapter cable. You could probably dredge it up from
Dejanews.
Alan Jones