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Rudolf Harras
May 22, 2012, 10:01:50 AM5/22/12
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Something I recently discovered:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/sep/05/austria.markoliver
(Tuesday 5 September 2006)
The investigation into the kidnapping of Natascha Kampusch has been
complicated by the discovery of an obsolete computer in the house where
she was held, Austrian police said today.
Officers have been surprised to find that the kidnapper, Wolfgang
Priklopil, a communications technician, appeared to have relied
exclusively on a Commodore 64.
The beige-coloured machine was popular in the 1980s but is now
considered an antique, though some electronic dance acts still use it
and it has a cult following among some fans of retro computers.
It was hoped that the computer might contain information which might
shed more light on the decision of Priklopil, 44, to snatch Ms Kampusch,
when she was aged 10, in March 1998.
However, Major General Gerhard Lang of the Federal Criminal
Investigations Bureau, told reporters the computer would complicate
investigators' efforts to transfer files for closer examination.
There are emulators available which can make a modern PC capable of
running Commodore 64 programmes but Maj Gen Lang said it would be
difficult to transmit the data from Priklopil's machine to a modern
computer "without loss".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/sep/05/austria.markoliver
(Tuesday 5 September 2006)
The investigation into the kidnapping of Natascha Kampusch has been
complicated by the discovery of an obsolete computer in the house where
she was held, Austrian police said today.
Officers have been surprised to find that the kidnapper, Wolfgang
Priklopil, a communications technician, appeared to have relied
exclusively on a Commodore 64.
The beige-coloured machine was popular in the 1980s but is now
considered an antique, though some electronic dance acts still use it
and it has a cult following among some fans of retro computers.
It was hoped that the computer might contain information which might
shed more light on the decision of Priklopil, 44, to snatch Ms Kampusch,
when she was aged 10, in March 1998.
However, Major General Gerhard Lang of the Federal Criminal
Investigations Bureau, told reporters the computer would complicate
investigators' efforts to transfer files for closer examination.
There are emulators available which can make a modern PC capable of
running Commodore 64 programmes but Maj Gen Lang said it would be
difficult to transmit the data from Priklopil's machine to a modern
computer "without loss".
David Griffith
May 22, 2012, 3:46:24 PM5/22/12
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historian, collector, or some other qualified person to perform the data
transfer.
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Payton Byrd
May 22, 2012, 3:55:34 PM5/22/12
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On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:01:50 AM UTC-5, Rudolf Harras wrote:
>
> There are emulators available which can make a modern PC capable of
> running Commodore 64 programmes but Maj Gen Lang said it would be
> difficult to transmit the data from Priklopil's machine to a modern
> computer "without loss".
Bullocks!
>
> There are emulators available which can make a modern PC capable of
> running Commodore 64 programmes but Maj Gen Lang said it would be
> difficult to transmit the data from Priklopil's machine to a modern
> computer "without loss".
Computer Nerd Kev
May 23, 2012, 3:57:17 AM5/23/12
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On 23 May 2012, Rudolf Harras wrote:
> There are emulators available which can make a modern PC
> capable of running Commodore 64 programmes but Maj Gen Lang
> said it would be difficult to transmit the data from
> Priklopil's machine to a modern computer "without loss".
If this is all it takes to stop the police, the average criminal
> There are emulators available which can make a modern PC
> capable of running Commodore 64 programmes but Maj Gen Lang
> said it would be difficult to transmit the data from
> Priklopil's machine to a modern computer "without loss".
need only buy a PDP-8 and they're safe.
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RobertB
May 23, 2012, 4:21:54 AM5/23/12
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On May 22, 7:01 am, Rudolf Harras <rudi...@temporaryforwarding.com>
wrote:
> Officers have been surprised to find that the kidnapper, Wolfgang
> Priklopil, a communications technician, appeared to have relied
> exclusively on a Commodore 64.
Whoa! Thanks for sharing that. This would make
an interesting tidbit to put into our club newsletter.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
Commodore Vegas Expo v8
http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex
wrote:
> Officers have been surprised to find that the kidnapper, Wolfgang
> Priklopil, a communications technician, appeared to have relied
> exclusively on a Commodore 64.
an interesting tidbit to put into our club newsletter.
Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
Commodore Vegas Expo v8
http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex
jbones
May 23, 2012, 8:33:37 AM5/23/12
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computer forensic experts aren't this incompetent. I should start
moving all my private information to cassette and 5.25" floppy.
Clocky
May 23, 2012, 6:35:21 PM5/23/12
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Groepaz
May 31, 2012, 4:00:06 PM5/31/12
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jbones wrote:
> Get yourself a Zoom Floppy and a copy of Vice. I hope modern day
> computer forensic experts aren't this incompetent. I should start
> moving all my private information to cassette and 5.25" floppy.
its not that easy unfortunately - in this particular case the major problem
> Get yourself a Zoom Floppy and a copy of Vice. I hope modern day
> computer forensic experts aren't this incompetent. I should start
> moving all my private information to cassette and 5.25" floppy.
was NOT transfering the data - it was about transfering the data in a way
which has been certified for forensic use. (you cant just use some software
you found on the internet). what they did was buying one device for
transfering, then have it certified, and then wrote the software for it
themselves (which makes is easier to get certified).
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eine Liberalisierung weicher Drogen dringend notwendig.
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Payton Byrd
Jun 1, 2012, 11:35:22 AM6/1/12
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On Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:00:06 PM UTC-5, Groepaz wrote:
> jbones wrote:
>
> > Get yourself a Zoom Floppy and a copy of Vice. I hope modern day
> > computer forensic experts aren't this incompetent. I should start
> > moving all my private information to cassette and 5.25" floppy.
>
> its not that easy unfortunately - in this particular case the major problem
> was NOT transfering the data - it was about transfering the data in a way
> which has been certified for forensic use. (you cant just use some software
> you found on the internet). what they did was buying one device for
> transfering, then have it certified, and then wrote the software for it
> themselves (which makes is easier to get certified).
>
Considering the entire software stack for ZoomFloppy is open source, it would seem easy to get OpenCBM certified for forensic use.
> jbones wrote:
>
> > Get yourself a Zoom Floppy and a copy of Vice. I hope modern day
> > computer forensic experts aren't this incompetent. I should start
> > moving all my private information to cassette and 5.25" floppy.
>
> its not that easy unfortunately - in this particular case the major problem
> was NOT transfering the data - it was about transfering the data in a way
> which has been certified for forensic use. (you cant just use some software
> you found on the internet). what they did was buying one device for
> transfering, then have it certified, and then wrote the software for it
> themselves (which makes is easier to get certified).
>
Groepaz
Jun 1, 2012, 6:31:59 PM6/1/12
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someone elses software reviewed. (and thats even more true for the hardware)
iirc they ended up using a very low tech solution - rs232 cables and a basic
program.
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Spiro Trikaliotis
Jun 3, 2012, 7:59:21 AM6/3/12
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Hello Payton,
I see it exactly the opposite: Knowing the OpenCBM sources very well, I
am sure it would have been *Very* hard to get it certified for forensic
use.
Regards,
Spiro.
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am sure it would have been *Very* hard to get it certified for forensic
use.
Regards,
Spiro.
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http://www.trikaliotis.net/
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