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Raymond Day

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Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
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I remember the old BBS days when you could download files that started with
1! and 2! and 3! and 4! There was a program that could load 1 of the 4 files
in the Commodore 64 memory then do it back to a 1541 disk just how it came
from it. It would load one file at a time. So with just downloading 4 files
you would have a hole disk. Does any one remember the name of the file that
did this? I know I must have it on a commodore disk some place but I think I
did not use it a lot so can't rember about it good.


Radioactive Warrior

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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Raymond Day wrote in message ...

>I remember the old BBS days when you could download files that started with
>1! and 2! and 3! and 4!
...

"old" ??? I use ZIP-CODE to this day. Someone recoded it around 1992
(search for ESH-ZIP) ESH has better pack results but pack time is increased.
I think a better storage method these days is a D64 that has been PKZIPed
as Pasi's GUNZIP.C64 will PKUNZIP the D64 onto a 1541 disk all from a stock
c64. Still, D64 files (PKZIPed or not) are impractical without a PC to
sort images and arrange for transfer/storage to the c64.
ZIP-CODE uses RLE packing, fast but poor compression results...

Linards Ticmanis

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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It's called ZipCode. In case you have a PC, the nowadays-standard
PC-to-C64 data transfer program, Star Commander, http://sta.c64.org/,
can assemble those 4 files on its own in the PC before transfering the
whole disk to the 1541. In fact ZipCode has a problem as it uses a
fast but pretty unreliable fastloader code.

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Linards Ticmanis

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> I remember the old BBS days when you could download files that
started with

Raymond Day

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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Thank you all!
I just got on here and you helped a lot. But when I got up today. I looked
at my disk. I know I seen some file on it with the 1! to 3! start to file
names. So I was trying to find that 3.5 inch disk. I found it. Then looked
for any file that looked like it could read the 1! files and put them on a
1541 disk. I have on the disk a file called "unzip" 26 blocks long. It
worked super. All I had on the disk for a name was "THINS C=64" Then at then
I had "UNZIP" I just added to the word UNZIP to undo 1!,2!- files. That
should help me next time.
I did not use it much but now I remember it was a nice program that you
could just see the data a block at a time going in and out to disk.
I did not know star commander had this in it. I will have to check it out.
Thank you again!
Raymond Day


Alan Jones

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 00:03:47 -0700, "Radioactive Warrior"
<rad...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>I think a better storage method these days is a D64 that has been PKZIPed
>as Pasi's GUNZIP.C64 will PKUNZIP the D64 onto a 1541 disk all from a stock
>c64.

Cool! Where can I find the version of GUNZIP.C64 that does that? I
always thought we need a utility to essentialy unzip a PKzip 2.04g
file and pipe it into a D64 disolver then directly onto a 1541 disk
all from a stock C64. As you know, a D64 image file will not fit on a
standard 1541 disk, so a CBM user must have a 1571 or larger drive to
handle a D64 file, instead of just two 1541 drives.

Alan Jones

Ojala Pasi 'Albert'

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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In article <37a37eab...@news.avalon.net>,

Alan Jones <al...@nospam.avalon.net> wrote:
>Cool! Where can I find the version of GUNZIP.C64 that does that?

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~albert/Dev/gunzip/ -> gunzip.c64

>I always thought we need a utility to essentialy unzip a PKzip 2.04g
>file and pipe it into a D64 disolver then directly onto a 1541 disk
>all from a stock C64.

Yes, we once did need to do that. Now you can perform the
decompression and image write on one go. The best part is
that because of compression, the D64.gz or D64.zip DOES
fit into a 1541 disk and you only need one 154x/7x drive!

-Pasi
--
"I'm here to sign a non-aggression treaty with the Centauri. Before I leave
here there will be an Earth-Centauri alliance that will guarantee peace for
Earth. We will, at last, know peace in our time."
-- Frederick Lantz in Babylon 5:"The Fall of Night"

Radioactive Warrior

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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Ojala Pasi 'Albert' wrote in message <7o146d$4m1$1...@baker.cc.tut.fi>...
...

>>Cool! Where can I find the version of GUNZIP.C64 that does that?
>
>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~albert/Dev/gunzip/ -> gunzip.c64
...

>that because of compression, the D64.gz or D64.zip DOES
>fit into a 1541 disk and you only need one 154x/7x drive!
>
>-Pasi

Nice coding there mate. Glad you understand LZH commpression cause
I sure as heck don't. On the i/o drive select prompt you have
"8-9,0-7" does this mean that I can't read a file from 8,20 ?
(ie. drive 8, partition 20) I haven't tried yet...
--
Zak.


John Iannetta

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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"Linards Ticmanis" <ticm...@coli.uni-sb.de> said,

"It's called ZipCode. In case you have a PC, the nowadays-standard
PC-to-C64 data transfer program, Star Commander, http://sta.c64.org/,
can assemble those 4 files on its own in the PC before transfering the
whole disk to the 1541. In fact ZipCode has a problem as it uses a

fast but pretty unreliable fastloader code.".

There are advantages (and disadvantages) to using the SPYNE format in place
of ZipCode, for transferring a 1541 disk in the form of a file (or files). In
both cases, the four ZipCode files (or one SPYNE file) may be a little too
large for a 1541 disk. But a SPYNE file is self-extracting; no other program
is needed. And the user may opt for a destructive extraction; the same disk is
used and no free blocks are required.

And if a SPYNE file is downloaded using a PC, "64COPY" (by Peter Schepers)
will extract the files.
G

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123 456
789 *0#

If you see a telephone keypad above, you're probably using a Commodore 64.

Ojala Pasi 'Albert'

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Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
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In article <7o1sql$fce$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>,

Radioactive Warrior <rad...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>"8-9,0-7" does this mean that I can't read a file from 8,20 ?
>(ie. drive 8, partition 20) I haven't tried yet...

The numbers mean drives 8-17. Currently gunzip.c64 is a little
hostile to REU/Ramdisk and probably HD also, because I don't
have those peripherals. I'm trying to change this from hostile
to just "not special support" for the next version.

-Pasi

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"It's not justice you are after, Major, it's blood."
-- Sinclair to Lianna Kemmer in Babylon 5:"Survivors"

Alan Jones

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Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
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On 1 Aug 1999 09:31:57 GMT, alb...@korppi.cs.tut.fi (Ojala Pasi
'Albert') wrote:

>In article <37a37eab...@news.avalon.net>,
>Alan Jones <al...@nospam.avalon.net> wrote:

>>Cool! Where can I find the version of GUNZIP.C64 that does that?
>
>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~albert/Dev/gunzip/ -> gunzip.c64
>

>>I always thought we need a utility to essentialy unzip a PKzip 2.04g
>>file and pipe it into a D64 disolver then directly onto a 1541 disk
>>all from a stock C64.
>
>Yes, we once did need to do that. Now you can perform the
>decompression and image write on one go. The best part is

>that because of compression, the D64.gz or D64.zip DOES
>fit into a 1541 disk and you only need one 154x/7x drive!
>
>-Pasi

Thanks, I'm surprised I missed it earlier. I have not tried it yet,
but I assume that it works as described. This is a better utility
than I expected wtih the sigle drive capability. There is one
remaining difficulty with the D64 format. You still need a 1541 or
1571 drive and 5.25" floppy. Many D64 disk images contain only
standard CBM files, It would be nice to be able to extract the files
directly to a 1581 drive. All my 1541 drives are in storage. I do
have a 128DCR at my desk, but I always have a hard time finding a
blank 5.25" floppy.

Alan Jones

Ron Slaminko

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Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
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Alan Jones wrote:

You can use Star Commander 0.82 beta to move files from D64 to D81 format,
and 1581copy to write a 1581 disk directly on a PeeCee 3.5" drive. Go to
the Star Commander home page at
http://c64.rulez.org/~sta/sc.html

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