C64 CRT image resources?
Paul Förster
... I just got my Easyflash working but it seems to be able to only
deal with normal and Ocean type cart images. Is there any resource
where these two types can be downloaded? I find it pretty hard to
download each one I want individually, check its format and possibly
extract and create new cart files from each one individulally. So, a
resource to download cart files (at least with type designation) would
be very useful. The download sources I found have tons of cart files
but I never found any information on the cart file type, which is not
very useful. :-(
Is there something like that, i.e. a type sorted crt image download
resource or at least a good one showing the type with each file?
Thanks in advance.
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cul8er
PK
>
> Is there something like that, i.e. a type sorted crt image download
> resource or at least a good one showing the type with each file?
>
> Thanks in advance.
try this:
http://www.theoldcomputer.com/roms/index.php?folder=Commodore/C64/Cartridge-Images/
Ciao
Sam
http://www.mayhem64.co.uk/main.htm
All cartridges sorted by company !
Regards, SAM
Paul Förster
... thanks to both of you for the pointers. I downloaded all of
mayhem64 and it appears that most of them work with DCM.
I tried the theoldcomputer.com site but find it very frustrating to
find my computer have to load sooooooo much banner and image shit that
it's hard to get anything at all. Also, it's complicated. Each download
is two clicks and opens another overloaded window. I doubt I will
really download those roms.
Still, thanks very much for the links to both of you. :-)
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Mayhem
archive in one zip heh... but yes, when it comes to cartridges, I
think few would argue I'm the guy in the know heh...
Mayhem
Paul Förster
... that would be sooooooooooo cool. But it seems to late now as I
downloaded them already one by one. :-(
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Peter Dassow
Compared to my list at http://www.z80.eu/cartridges.html , some are
missing :-(
Btw. - are there any images from opened cartridges which differs from my
published cartridge pcbs ? I am still looking for a picture from an
original cartridge with 64KB (4x16KB)...
Regards
Peter
Mayhem
cartridges I personally own (for now). Given I own almost every games
cartridge, then there isn't much missing on that front heh ;)
Mayhem
it is ANCIENT. And I really mean that. It's the original list from
around 2000 floating online that I started my work on cataloguing all
the C64 games cartridges from. It has tons missing that I own that
have been discovered in the decade since, not to mention copious
errors, and as stated in my previous post I am only interested in the
games cartridges, not the utility ones.
The best place for a list of C64 games cartridges would be Digital
Press (as I run the Commodore sections there) but the online database
is currently down, pending a server move.
Bill Garber
"Mayhem" <Mayh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:f0982ff0-
2edd-4d80-9ec...@o8g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
> That's because my site is only based upon games cartridges, and only
> cartridges I personally own (for now). Given I own almost every games
> cartridge, then there isn't much missing on that front heh ;)
I am still hoping to see the link to that complete ZIP archive of all the
games. 8^)
Bill
Peter Dassow
May be you misunderstood me. I have no doubt your collection is worth to
be mentioned and presented. Also, I didn't claim to have a current,
complete list of all published cartridges. I just stated I missed some
cartridges.
So I please you to give me a link for a complete (more current) list of
all cartridges and all will be fine.
Regards
Peter
Alan Jones
wrote:
>Compared to my list at http://www.z80.eu/cartridges.html , some are
>missing :-(
>Btw. - are there any images from opened cartridges which differs from my
>published cartridge pcbs ? I am still looking for a picture from an
>original cartridge with 64KB (4x16KB)...
>
>Regards
> Peter
You have picture of the "black" Comal cartridge. This was the most
common version that the Comal Users Group USA imported and sold in the
US. It has three sockets. The first two hold the base Comal in 32K
ROMs or Eproms. The third socket is for expansion. The group also
sold a 16K eprom that is a collection of packages called "Super Chip".
Anyone could develop their own packages and burn them onto an EPROM to
fill the third socket, but Superchip was the only such chip sold.
Initial demand for the Comal cartridge was high, but the Comal Users
Group USA had difficulty getting them imported. So they made some
under license from Unicomal. This was the "grey" cartridge with four
sockets containing four 16K EPROMs, but with no room for expansion.
Schematic drawings for both the black and grey cartridges were
published in COMAL Today, and can be found on that Bombjack web site.
There was also an unpublished article on modifying the four socket
cartridge to use 32KB EPROMS. This expands it to 128KB capability.
The modification is simply cutting some traces on the PC board,
rewiring them, and of course burning the EPROMs. I have done this
twice.
There was also, possibly the last COMAL cartridge, that was not
imported to the US. It is a single 64KB ROM soldered directly to the
cartridge board, with no provision for expansion. I sometimes call
this the cost reduced version. I have one of those, a few of the four
socket cartridges, and none of the three socket cartridges. I think
the COMAL-80 system should be capable of using the Superchip and have
the potential for user expansion. This makes the modified four socket
cartridge the best COMAL cartridge.
I don't have a digital camera, but if you still want the pictures,
I'll see what I can do.
Alan
Groepaz
.....
> There was also, possibly the last COMAL cartridge, that was not
> imported to the US. It is a single 64KB ROM soldered directly to the
> cartridge board, with no provision for expansion. I sometimes call
> this the cost reduced version. I have one of those, a few of the four
> socket cartridges, and none of the three socket cartridges. I think
> the COMAL-80 system should be capable of using the Superchip and have
> the potential for user expansion. This makes the modified four socket
> cartridge the best COMAL cartridge.
do dumps exist of any of these expansions? if yes, please throw them into my
direction - i'll see what i can do about adding support to vice then :)
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Alan Jones
>Alan Jones wrote:
>.....
>> There was also, possibly the last COMAL cartridge, that was not
>> imported to the US. It is a single 64KB ROM soldered directly to the
>> cartridge board, with no provision for expansion. I sometimes call
>> this the cost reduced version. I have one of those, a few of the four
>> socket cartridges, and none of the three socket cartridges. I think
>> the COMAL-80 system should be capable of using the Superchip and have
>> the potential for user expansion. This makes the modified four socket
>> cartridge the best COMAL cartridge.
>
>do dumps exist of any of these expansions? if yes, please throw them into my
>direction - i'll see what i can do about adding support to vice then :)
I don't use vice, but there is a cartridge image file of COMAL
availabe for vice. AFAIK, it only includes the base 64K system and
not the popular Superchip, nor provision for user developed expansion.
Dumps certainly exist for Superchip, but I don't know if any are are
available on the web. I certainly had to copy the image from the 16KB
Superchip and burn it into the upper half of a 32KB EPROM to get it to
work in my modified cartridge.
Alan
Peter Dassow
>> do dumps exist of any of these expansions? if yes, please throw them into my
>> direction - i'll see what i can do about adding support to vice then :)
>
> I don't use vice, but there is a cartridge image file of COMAL
> availabe for vice. AFAIK, it only includes the base 64K system and
I have seen the COMAL 80 for the C128, and it has exactly the same pcb I
photographed (for the C64, it has an empty socket, for the C128, it has
an inserted EPROM). So I am not aware of any "Superchip". I even can
provide you a link of a picture of an opened C128 COMAL 80 cartridge:
http://www.cbmhardware.de/c128/comal80_cart.jpg
Regards
Peter
Peter Dassow
> So I am not aware of any "Superchip". I even can provide you
> a link of a picture of an opened C128 COMAL 80 cartridge:
> http://www.cbmhardware.de/c128/comal80_cart.jpg
>
I made a comparison in one picture.
http://www.z80.eu/images/comal_compare.jpg
So will notice a difference at the upper right corner.
There is a TTL chip, I do not know what type.
But this additional TTL chip can't be a "Superchip".
Regards
Peter
Groepaz
what about uploading that image somewhere then? :)
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RobertB
> You have picture of the "black" Comal cartridge. This was the most
> common version that the Comal Users Group USA imported and sold in the
> US. It has three sockets. The first two hold the base Comal in 32K
> ROMs or Eproms. The third socket is for expansion. The group also
> sold a 16K eprom that is a collection of packages called "Super Chip".
> Anyone could develop their own packages and burn them onto an EPROM to
> fill the third socket, but Superchip was the only such chip sold.
Thanks for the interesting history of Comal, Alan.
I've never looked into it, but I have a cart around
here labeled, "Comal 80".
FCUG celebrating 30 years,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
Alan Jones
>what about uploading that image somewhere then? :)
I'll toss that on my pile of things to do. It has been over 20 years
since I messed with that. I may have to do another dump from the
actual Superdhip. This of course is done using a C64 ( hopefuly my
128D) with the Promenade C1. To complicate things, my current pos
computer does not have a floppy drive, so I may have to go back a
generation or two in computers to effect the transfer. When i started
responding to this thread, I though there might be interest in cloning
actual cartidges, rather than running emulators. Oh well.
Alan
Alan Jones
wrote:
>On 23.02.2011 00:43, Peter Dassow wrote:
Thanks. I've never seen the C128 cartridge. I don't think the COMAL
Users Group USA sold ANY of the 128 cartridges. They did have a few
for the "staff" to play with. The 128 Comal cartridge was marketed
for about $180. The C64 cartridge was less than $100 and already well
established. Furthermore, they were not 100% software compatible, and
packages were not compatible at all. The C64 cart could be used with
a C128, even in 2 Mhz C64 mode. This was made rather easy with the
C128 package on Superchip, for the C64 cartridge. Using the C128
cartridge would allow you to use the additional RAM in the C128, but
the cost was excessive, and you would not be able to use the C64 Comal
packages that you may be accustomed to using.
The picture of the C64 Comal cartridge shows a vacant socket that can
be populated with the Superchip eprom. I don't see a vacant socket on
the 128 cartridge. The 128 has more RAM, which can be used to hold
packages loaded from disk.
Alan
RobertB
> When i started
> responding to this thread, I though there might be interest in cloning
> actual cartidges, rather than running emulators. Oh well.
Since I don't use emulators, your idea of clone
cartridges sounds good to me.
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RobertB
> > You have picture of the "black" Comal cartridge. This was the most
> > common version that the Comal Users Group USA imported and sold in the
> > US. It has three sockets. The first two hold the base Comal in 32K
> > ROMs or Eproms. The third socket is for expansion. The group also
> > sold a 16K eprom that is a collection of packages called "Super Chip".
> > Anyone could develop their own packages and burn them onto an EPROM to
> > fill the third socket, but Superchip was the only such chip sold.
On Feb 23, 12:45 pm, I wrote:
> I've never looked into it, but I have a cart around
> here labeled, "Comal 80".
I have not found the Comal 80 cart yet; however, I did
find a board (without a case) that has the following
four eproms labeled, "COMAL 2.0 0", "COMAL 2.0 1",
"COMAL 2.0 2", and "COMAL 2.0 3". Also on the
board are a 74LS138N, a 74LS 04, a 74LS08N, and a
74LS163PC.