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Rodney Hester

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Dec 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/3/00
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My 1084S-D2 manual discusses a rear switch marked "ANALOGUE/TTL" that is
used to switch between analog (Amiga) and digital (C-128) RGB displays -
which the monitor, unfortunately, does not have.

Does anyone know which models of the 1084S (not 1084) come with this switch
*and* LCA jacks (luma, chroma, audio)? The goal is to hook up a Commodore
128DCR with stereo audio output here, and display both 40-column and
80-column modes on it.

Any help appreciated!

Rodney

Rodney Hester

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Dec 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/3/00
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So will mine - as long as I don't try to use 80 columns on the 128. Does
yours have the TTL switch (note: this is not the same as the RGB/CVBS or the
CVBS/LCA switch)?

Rodney

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kh6...@nospampe.net

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This 1084s has two separate inputs for digital and analog RGB signals.
You can have a 128 and an amiga hooked up at the same time. (not on
of course).

In comp.sys.cbm Rodney Hester <ro...@mindspring.com> wrote:

: So will mine - as long as I don't try to use 80 columns on the 128. Does


: yours have the TTL switch (note: this is not the same as the RGB/CVBS or the
: CVBS/LCA switch)?

: Rodney

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:> My 1084s is marked as a 1084s-p. It will handle a C64, C128, Amiga,

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Martijn van Buul

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Dec 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/4/00
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It occurred to me that kh6...@nospamPE.NET wrote in comp.sys.cbm:

> This 1084s has two separate inputs for digital and analog RGB signals.
> You can have a 128 and an amiga hooked up at the same time. (not on
> of course).

Even that is allowed ;)

The 1084s/p has two seperate inputs for analog and digital RGB. If both
of them give a signal, the digital RGB takes precedence.

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Martijn van Buul

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It occurred to me that Rodney Hester wrote in comp.sys.cbm:

> My 1084S-D2 manual discusses a rear switch marked "ANALOGUE/TTL" that is
> used to switch between analog (Amiga) and digital (C-128) RGB displays -
> which the monitor, unfortunately, does not have.
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> Any help appreciated!

Chances are *very* big that if you open the monitor, you'll find soldering
pads for such a switch. The 1084S-p didn't have a SCART-plug either -
untill you open it yourself, and add one.

Rodney Hester

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What do the two ports look like?

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kh6...@nospampe.net

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Both are round din female din ports. One I believe is 6 pin and the other
is 8 pin. They are labled as ttl RGB and lin RGB.

In comp.sys.amiga.hardware Rodney Hester <ro...@mindspring.com> wrote:
: What do the two ports look like?

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:> This 1084s has two separate inputs for digital and analog RGB signals.

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John Selck

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> My 1084S-D2 manual discusses a rear switch marked "ANALOGUE/TTL" that is
> used to switch between analog (Amiga) and digital (C-128) RGB displays -
> which the monitor, unfortunately, does not have.
>
> Does anyone know which models of the 1084S (not 1084) come with this switch
> *and* LCA jacks (luma, chroma, audio)? The goal is to hook up a Commodore
> 128DCR with stereo audio output here, and display both 40-column and
> 80-column modes on it.

i have a phillips cm8833, cm8833-ii and a 1084S (the phillips monitors
are equal to some 1084S's)

the 8833 has three plugs: FBAS, analogue RGB via euroscart, digital RGB
via round DIN plug.

the 8833-II has two plugs: FBAS and a joystick-like 9 pin which is for
both, digital and analogue RGB. there's a switch on the back to
select digital/analogue RGB.

the 1084S has also the same two plugs with the same switch. it's almost
the same.

none of these monitors have lca jacks. only composite.

Graham.

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Rusure

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RE: 1084S analog/TTL RGB question
BY: "Rodney Hester" <ro...@mindspring.com>

-> Date........ Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:49:52 -0500

-> My 1084S-D2 manual discusses a rear switch marked
-> "ANALOGUE/TTL" that is used to switch between analog
-> (Amiga) and digital (C-128) RGB displays - which the
-> monitor, unfortunately, does not have. Does anyone
-> know which models of the 1084S (not 1084) come with
-> this switch *and* LCA jacks (luma, chroma, audio)?
-> The goal is to hook up a Commodore 128DCR with
-> stereo audio output here, and display both 40-column
-> and 80-column modes on it.

-> Any help appreciated!

You are asking for information on a monitor that
you do not have. I am offering a couple of
guesses on the type of monitor that you do have.

Your operating manual and monitor are mismatched.
Your monitor may not be C128 compatible. If your
monitor is AMIGA only compatible, your monitor
model may not have that ANALOGUE/TTL switch.
Towards the end, Commodore tried to economize by
cutting out the C128 compatibility on their 1084
monitors. This may have been a futile attempt
at selling AMIGA computers to C128 people as well.

A more unlikely guess is that you may have a monitor
that senses what kind of computer is connected to it
and automatically adjusts the ANALOGUE/TTL settings.

Although you tell us what kind of switches
are missing on your monitor, I would like a
description of the switches, knobs and ports and
their labels that are present on your monitor.

Although I have a 1084S connected to a couple of C128D's,
I find the sound quality inferior to a full blown stereo.
I use the monitor's two speaker inputs for the monoaural
sound from each of the two computers. When I want a high
quality stereo sound, I connect a computer to a real life
stereo set and forget about the sound from the monitor.


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Sensei David O.E. Mohr - Lord Ronin from Q-Link

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Hoi Chummers:

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Rodney Hester wrote:

> So will mine - as long as I don't try to use 80 columns on the 128. Does
> yours have the TTL switch (note: this is not the same as the RGB/CVBS or the
> CVBS/LCA switch)?

Mine is Titled "Commodore 1084S". I have it running 24/7 in 80 col mode
for my Inet work <using it now> and my BBS. Hooked up with the RGB and the
three wire CGA lines. No problems on my end. No manual either.

BCNU

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Damir

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Dec 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/7/00
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On 4 Dec 2000 10:26:54 GMT, pino+com...@dohd.org (Martijn van Buul) wrote:

[snip]

> The 1084S-p didn't have a SCART-plug either -
>untill you open it yourself, and add one.

Is it enough just to solder SCART connector on empty pads? I see empty places on
PCB for resistors. Does somebody know what values they are?


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