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Joseph D. Place

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Jan 7, 2004, 2:53:54 AM1/7/04
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I purchased a SCSI PCMCIA Card Reader (Litronic Argus/2102) for the
purpose of setting up a silent ST for music composition. I'd like to
be able to use compact flash memory for "hard disk" space. Are there
drivers available that will allow an Atari to see this as a drive?
The device shows up at boot and on a bus scan with HDDriver, but it
does not show as a drive. Any ideas? Anyone else doing this?

TIA

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Joseph D. Place
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Mark D

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Jan 7, 2004, 3:19:25 AM1/7/04
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 07:53:54 +0000, Joseph D. Place wrote:

> I purchased a SCSI PCMCIA Card Reader (Litronic Argus/2102) for the
> purpose of setting up a silent ST for music composition. I'd like to
> be able to use compact flash memory for "hard disk" space. Are there
> drivers available that will allow an Atari to see this as a drive?
> The device shows up at boot and on a bus scan with HDDriver, but it
> does not show as a drive. Any ideas? Anyone else doing this?
>
> TIA
>

Ahem,

Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but I wish you luck ;-) OTOH if it's scsi it
should be somewhat standardized if you plug standard memory media into it.

Thanks,
Mark
http://portal.atari-source.com

Uwe Seimet

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Jan 7, 2004, 5:12:10 AM1/7/04
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Joseph D. Place wrote:

> I purchased a SCSI PCMCIA Card Reader (Litronic Argus/2102) for the
> purpose of setting up a silent ST for music composition. I'd like to
> be able to use compact flash memory for "hard disk" space. Are there
> drivers available that will allow an Atari to see this as a drive?
> The device shows up at boot and on a bus scan with HDDriver, but it
> does not show as a drive. Any ideas? Anyone else doing this?

Did you create partition on this device? I do not see a reason why the
read should not work with HDDRIVER, provided that it is fully compliant
to other direct access or optical memory SCSI devices.

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Dr. Uwe Seimet http://www.seimet.de

Neil Chester

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Jan 7, 2004, 5:37:22 PM1/7/04
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Hi Joseph

I use an Adtron Accent SCSI PCMCIA Card Reader with my CT2b Falcon. It
shows up on a bus scan as having 2 LUNs 6.00 & 6.01 which I take to be the
device and its card or something.

Jinnee then automatically recognises it and places an icon on the desktop.
Adtron do tell you NOT to have a card in the slot when booting, but to put
it in later, ie when the desktop appears. I found this to be correct as I
got strange effects on file transfers if the card was in. Also I have to
use GEMDOS mode in Kobold otherwise I lose data or it freezes whilst
copying more than 2 files! I think because it is the last device in the
chain I get termination problems too which are solved when I switch on the
CDRW drive - don't ask me why!

But for reading CF cards from digi cameras it is essential. I have tried
to load pictures from the card directly into say PhotoTip but there seems
to be picture loss (thats why I copy them to disk first). Some programs
can run directly, I tried GEM Pacman it seemed to work OK.

Hope this helps you!

Neil :-)

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Joseph D. Place

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Jan 8, 2004, 1:07:01 AM1/8/04
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>.
The device does not show up under partitioning (or as a drive) so I
think it may not be a standard device. It's really designed to read
a "Fortezza" secure token for email security. I was just taking a
chance that it would work this way. I have found in searching old
messages that there are other brands of readers that do work with
HDDriver or BIGDOS.

Thanks,
Joe Place

Joseph D. Place

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Jan 8, 2004, 1:15:52 AM1/8/04
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On 7 Jan 2004 16:11:27 -, lp wrote:
>in article mWOKb.1649$lE.13...@news3.news.adelphia.net, Joseph D. Place at
>jdp...@REMOVESPAMadelphia.net wrote on 1/7/04 2:53 AM:

>
>> I purchased a SCSI PCMCIA Card Reader (Litronic Argus/2102) for the
>> purpose of setting up a silent ST for music composition. I'd like to
>> be able to use compact flash memory for "hard disk" space. Are there
>> drivers available that will allow an Atari to see this as a drive?
>> The device shows up at boot and on a bus scan with HDDriver, but it
>> does not show as a drive. Any ideas? Anyone else doing this?
>
>I have such units on all my Atari's. This is how I moved large amounts
>of data before getting wired for ethernet. Also for extracting
>pictures off the smart media from the camera. All you need is HD Driver
>itself, and you should treat the unit like a normal removable HD.
>So you will have to mount the drive at the desktop, or rather install
>an icon for the drive. Also format and partition the media.
>Some units can be fussy if you boot with the media removed,
>so I suggest you do any setup at the desktop level with media inserted.
>
>I use an 880mb pcmcia card on my hades for backup, HD Driver with
>mint, sees the 880mb card fine. I have a dual card reader, so I also
>leave an 8mb card in the other slot and use it like a ramdisk. ;-)
>
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>
>
>.
HDDriver does not see the device as a drive, nor does the desktop, so
I don't think this is a standard card reader. I may have to look for
a different brand of reader. Which ones have you found to work?

Thanks,
Joe Place

Uwe Seimet

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Jan 8, 2004, 2:42:19 AM1/8/04
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Joseph D. Place wrote:

> HDDriver does not see the device as a drive, nor does the desktop, so
> I don't think this is a standard card reader. I may have to look for
> a different brand of reader. Which ones have you found to work?

But the devices shows up on a bus scan and when booting, as you said in
your initial posting? This is strange since it means that the device is
SCSI compatible except for reading sectors, which is very strange.
You should not yet give up but use SCSI_MON
(http://www.seimet.de/atari_english.html) to find out what's going wrong.

Joseph D. Place

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Jan 8, 2004, 11:28:05 PM1/8/04
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I'll try SCSI_MON. When I select ID CHECK in HDUTIL it lists my
drives as DIRECT ACCESS, and the card reader as PROCESSOR like the
Falcon. Could this be the problem? Also under CONFIGURE DEVICES,
none of the options are selectable for the card reader.

Thanks very much,

Uwe Seimet

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Jan 9, 2004, 5:51:06 AM1/9/04
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Joseph D. Place wrote:

> I'll try SCSI_MON. When I select ID CHECK in HDUTIL it lists my
> drives as DIRECT ACCESS, and the card reader as PROCESSOR like the

So the reader does not implement the SCSI direct access device protocol
(like hard disks) but has a special SCSI-command set. You will only be
able to use it with special software, that knows about the
vendor-specific SCSI commands it uses.
It is possible to write software that uses HDDRIVER's SCSI driver
interface to access the reader, but this requires knowledge about SCSI
in general and the vendor-specific commands for this device in
particular. No use in trying IMO.

Joseph D. Place

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Jan 9, 2004, 12:19:41 PM1/9/04
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>.
Not a great loss. I got the unit for less than the price of the SCSI
II cable that came with it. I'll just look for another that will
work. LP posted that he uses Microtech.

Thanks,

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