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Bravo Sierra Computers - BenSells.Atari.org

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Jan 1, 2017, 8:27:33 PM1/1/17
to Goetz Hoffart, Bravo Sierra Computers
Dear Goetz,

Up until over two years ago I was able to logon to my shell account with my ST
and Flash Terminal software!All I need is a good term program that does dialup
and secure shell Plus Capabilities to do x/y/z modem transfer. Can you help?
Please Answer! Please Reply Irregardless of your Answers! Thanx! =-=Ben=-=

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Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 00:23:49 +0100
From: Goetz Hoffart <use...@hoffart.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st, comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: UNIX Shell

Bravo Sierra Computers - BenSells.Atari.org <At...@aracnet.com> wrote:

> How can I do UNIX Secure Shell on my Atari ST? Ben

Take at least a fast 68020/030, or it will be unuseable slow. Under MiNT
you should be able to compile/use "dropbear", a lightweight ssh2
client/server.

Regards
Götz
--
http://www.3rz.org

David Wade

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Jan 2, 2017, 5:36:47 AM1/2/17
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On 02/01/2017 01:25, Bravo Sierra Computers - BenSells.Atari.org wrote:
> Dear Goetz,
>
> Up until over two years ago I was able to logon to my shell account with
> my ST
> and Flash Terminal software!All I need is a good term program that does
> dialup
> and secure shell Plus Capabilities to do x/y/z modem transfer. Can you
> help?
> Please Answer! Please Reply Irregardless of your Answers! Thanx! =-=Ben=-=

SSH requires a TCP/IP stack. If you have a TCP/IP stack and SSH then you
should also have SCP so you don't get X/y/z modem because you don't need it.

Guido the Grammar Nazi

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Jan 2, 2017, 8:55:19 PM1/2/17
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On Sun, 1 Jan 2017, Bravo Sierra Computers - BenSells.Atari.org wrote:

> Please Reply Irregardless of your Answers!

'Irregardless' is not a valid word in the English language. I think
you'll find that the word you were looking for was 'regardless'.

Yours, etc.

Guido the Grammar Nazi.

Bravo Sierra Computers - BenSells.Atari.org

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Jan 7, 2017, 9:28:40 AM1/7/17
to David Wade, Goetz Hoffart, Bravo Sierra Computers
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, David Wade wrote:

SSH requires a TCP/IP stack. If you have a TCP/IP stack and SSH then you should
also have SCP so you don't get X/y/z modem because you don't need it.

> But I want to be able to Download files.
> Please Answer! Please Reply Irregardless of your Answers! Thanx! =-=Ben=-=

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Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2017 17:25:51 -0800
From: Bravo Sierra Computers - BenSells.Atari.org <At...@aracnet.com>

Dear Goetz,

Up until over two years ago I was able to logon to my shell account with my ST
and Flash Terminal software!All I need is a good term program that does dialup
and secure shell Plus Capabilities to do x/y/z modem transfer. Can you help?
Please Answer! Please Reply Irregardless of your Answers! Thanx! =-=Ben=-=

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 00:23:49 +0100
From: Goetz Hoffart <use...@hoffart.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st, comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: UNIX Shell

Bravo Sierra Computers - BenSells.Atari.org <At...@aracnet.com> wrote:

> How can I do UNIX Secure Shell on my Atari ST? Ben

Take at least a fast 68020/030, or it will be unuseable slow. Under MiNT
you should be able to compile/use "dropbear", a lightweight ssh2
client/server.

Regards
Götz
--
http://www.3rz.org

David Wade

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Jan 7, 2017, 12:55:10 PM1/7/17
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On 07/01/2017 14:28, Bravo Sierra Computers - BenSells.Atari.org wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, David Wade wrote:
>
> SSH requires a TCP/IP stack. If you have a TCP/IP stack and SSH then you
> should
> also have SCP so you don't get X/y/z modem because you don't need it.
>
>> But I want to be able to Download files.

So you use SCP (Secure CP, or Secure Copy).

Bravo Sierra Computers - BenSells.Atari.org

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Jan 16, 2017, 4:56:57 AM1/16/17
to David Wade, Goetz Hoffart, Bravo Sierra Computers
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On Sat, 7 Jan 2017, David Wade wrote:

>SSH requires a TCP/IP stack.If you have a TCP/IP stack and SSH then you should
> also have SCP so you don't get X/y/z modem because you don't need it.
>
> > But I want to be able to Download files.

So you use SCP (Secure CP, or Secure Copy).

> I use PuTTY, and I dont know how to Upload/Download with PuTTY!Please Reply!
> Please Answer! Please Reply Irregardless of your Answers! Thanx! =-=Ben=-=

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On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, David Wade wrote:

SSH requires a TCP/IP stack. If you have a TCP/IP stack and SSH then you should
also have SCP so you don't get X/y/z modem because you don't need it.

> But I want to be able to Download files.
> Please Answer! Please Reply Irregardless of your Answers! Thanx! =-=Ben=-=

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2017 17:25:51 -0800
From: Bravo Sierra Computers - BenSells.Atari.org <At...@aracnet.com>

Dear Goetz,

Up until over two years ago I was able to logon to my shell account with my ST
and Flash Terminal software!All I need is a good term program that does dialup
and secure shell Plus Capabilities to do x/y/z modem transfer. Can you help?
Please Answer! Please Reply Irregardless of your Answers! Thanx! =-=Ben=-=

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 00:23:49 +0100
From: Goetz Hoffart <use...@hoffart.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st, comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: UNIX Shell

Bravo Sierra Computers - BenSells.Atari.org <At...@aracnet.com> wrote:

> How can I do UNIX Secure Shell on my Atari ST? Ben

Take at least a fast 68020/030, or it will be unuseable slow. Under MiNT
you should be able to compile/use "dropbear", a lightweight ssh2
client/server.

Regards
Götz
--
http://www.3rz.org

David Wade

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Jan 16, 2017, 4:25:05 PM1/16/17
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> So you use SCP (Secure CP, or Secure Copy).
>
>> I use PuTTY, and I dont know how to Upload/Download with PuTTY!Please
>> Reply!

There is an SCP program called "PSCP" included in the PUTTY package,
but I can't see a PUTTY port to Atari, did you port it yoursel? There is
also a PSFTP program in the same package.

The documents for the windows release include details on using these
packages here:-

https://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.67/htmldoc/

Bravo Sierra Computers - BenSells.Atari.org

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Jan 17, 2017, 6:16:32 AM1/17/17
to David Wade, Goetz Hoffart, Bravo Sierra Computers
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, David Wade wrote:

> So you use SCP (Secure CP, or Secure Copy).
>
> > I use PuTTY, and I dont know how to Upload/Download with PuTTY!Please
> > Reply!

There is an SCP program called "PSCP" included in the PUTTY package, but I
can't see a PUTTY port to Atari,

> I cant use an Atari with a Port! I would rather get online with my Atari
> instead of my PC! It's A Curse and a Scourge, Like the Pox!

did you port it yoursel?

> No, I'm an Idiot with my PC. I prefer Atari for All Things! I Believe Every
> Salesmen should use their own Products and I Feel Like A Hypocrite!

There is also a PSFTP program in the same package.

The documents for the windows release include details on using these packages
here:-

https://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.67/htmldoc/

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On Sat, 7 Jan 2017, David Wade wrote:

> SSH requires a TCP/IP stack.If you have a TCP/IP stack and SSH then you
> should
> also have SCP so you don't get X/y/z modem because you don't need it.
>
> > But I want to be able to Download files.

So you use SCP (Secure CP, or Secure Copy).

> I use PuTTY, and I dont know how to Upload/Download with PuTTY!Please Reply!

David Wade

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Jan 17, 2017, 3:30:00 PM1/17/17
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On 17/01/2017 11:16, Bravo Sierra Computers - BenSells.Atari.org wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, David Wade wrote:
>
>> So you use SCP (Secure CP, or Secure Copy).
>>
>> > I use PuTTY, and I dont know how to Upload/Download with PuTTY!Please
>> > Reply!
>
> There is an SCP program called "PSCP" included in the PUTTY package,
> but I
> can't see a PUTTY port to Atari,
>
>> I cant use an Atari with a Port! I would rather get online with my
>> Atari instead of my PC! It's A Curse and a Scourge, Like the Pox!


if you are using your pc then the instructions on file transfer are in
the help supplied with the putty download

David Wade

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Jan 19, 2017, 2:49:03 AM1/19/17
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I really can't figure out what the new reply in here is, or even why its
in a new thread. Convention has it you indent/mark the existing stuff
but Ben seems to have indented/marked the new. Result chaos. So in short:-

1. There are no SSH capable clients for Atari that I can find so you are
stuck with Linux or Windows.
2. The PUTTY for Windows package includes the file transfer utilities.
3. Instructions on how to use then are in the help file included in the
package.

Dave
G4UGM
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