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PM7500

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Oct 6, 2010, 8:59:06 AM10/6/10
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Does anyone have the software that came with the ATR8000? I understand
the discs themselves are difficult to backup. Does anyone out there in
Atariland know how to make working copies of them or have copies they
would be willing to sell?

russg

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Oct 10, 2010, 5:19:25 PM10/10/10
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all I could find is a atr8000_mutliboot_docs1.1.atr in Holmes.
scroll down to atr8000.
http://ftp.pigwa.net/stuff/collections/holmes%20cd/Holmes%201/ATR%20Programs/Applications%20A-Z/index.html

RetroJess

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Oct 11, 2010, 12:03:49 PM10/11/10
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I checked that, Russ. It is a utility for combining several small boot
applications
onto a single boot disk with a menu; just efficient use of disk space on the
ATR.

I think he needs the ATR8000 boot CP/M OS or possibly instructions for the
arcane command line procedures to dupdsk it. I got my ATR used and it did
not include any of the CP/M materials.

-Jess

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russg

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Oct 11, 2010, 10:32:51 PM10/11/10
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On Oct 11, 12:03 pm, "RetroJess" <rjhamil...@pldi.net> wrote:
> I checked that, Russ. It is a utility for combining several small boot
> applications
> onto a single boot disk with a menu; just efficient use of disk space on the
> ATR.
>
> I think he needs the ATR8000 boot CP/M OS or possibly instructions for the
> arcane command line procedures to dupdsk it. I got my ATR used and it did
> not include any of the CP/M materials.
>
> -Jess
>
> "russg" <russg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

>
> news:cf9e78ea-10c4-49b6...@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 6, 8:59 am, PM7500 <jburke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have the software that came with the ATR8000? I understand
> > the discs themselves are difficult to backup. Does anyone out there in
> > Atariland know how to make working copies of them or have copies they
> > would be willing to sell?
>
> all I could find is a atr8000_mutliboot_docs1.1.atr in Holmes.
> scroll down to atr8000.http://ftp.pigwa.net/stuff/collections/holmes%20cd/Holmes%201/ATR%20P...

I don't believe this is what looking for. I found a file called
CPM.ATR. It has a file called
ATARICPM.COM

russg

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Oct 11, 2010, 10:42:16 PM10/11/10
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On Oct 11, 12:03 pm, "RetroJess" <rjhamil...@pldi.net> wrote:
> I checked that, Russ. It is a utility for combining several small boot
> applications
> onto a single boot disk with a menu; just efficient use of disk space on the
> ATR.
>
> I think he needs the ATR8000 boot CP/M OS or possibly instructions for the
> arcane command line procedures to dupdsk it. I got my ATR used and it did
> not include any of the CP/M materials.
>
> -Jess
>
> "russg" <russg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

>
> news:cf9e78ea-10c4-49b6...@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 6, 8:59 am, PM7500 <jburke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have the software that came with the ATR8000? I understand
> > the discs themselves are difficult to backup. Does anyone out there in
> > Atariland know how to make working copies of them or have copies they
> > would be willing to sell?
>
> all I could find is a atr8000_mutliboot_docs1.1.atr in Holmes.
> scroll down to atr8000.http://ftp.pigwa.net/stuff/collections/holmes%20cd/Holmes%201/ATR%20P...

Accidently hit 'Send'. The .ATR I found has an Atari executable
called ATARICPM.COM and
a couple Turbo BASIC utilities. The ATARICPM.COM boots to a menu
screen to copy
and directory drives. Its title is 'Atari CP/M Help/Copy Program.
And the DOS 2.75 .ATR
has utilities called:
ASCIICON.TUR
CPMTOSTA.TUR
STATOCPM.TUR
IBMREAD.COM
UMONXL.COM
TURBOBASXL.COM
(c) 1987 Lutz Ristau
It doesn't need an AT8000 to get CP/M.

russg

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Oct 11, 2010, 10:44:20 PM10/11/10
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I lost my post. The .ATR boots in AT800WinPlus4. It has some
utilities.

ricortes

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Oct 12, 2010, 1:34:13 PM10/12/10
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> utilities.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sould someone point out CP/M w/o an app that you absolutely have to
run sucks?

I mean if your great grandfather wrote his will leaving you millions
using Worstar on a CP/M system it could be worth your while. Likewise
if you want to develop Z80 code it would be a way to get there. I have
done it myself to run a few archaic programs like Hunt The Wumpus and
Rogue. In general CP/M apps are written to do screen I/o via a
terminal type consol so it is like doing word processing over a modem
or playing a bbs door game.

Rick

Andreas Bertelmann

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Oct 12, 2010, 6:12:27 PM10/12/10
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I am searchen for this disks too.
ABBUC webmaster

RetroJess

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Oct 13, 2010, 11:41:33 AM10/13/10
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That sounds interesting; wonder if it has any docs with it?
Where did you find that, Russ? I might want to look at
it just out of curiosity...

-Jess

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RetroJess

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Oct 13, 2010, 12:17:37 PM10/13/10
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Found this old '84 article on the ATR-8000 and CP/M usage:

http://www.retroarchive.org/cpm/cdrom/CPM/ATARI/ATR8000.RVW

Seems the 64K model ATR8000 was required to run CP/M; maybe mine
is the 16K model and that is why none was included. Does anyone know
how spot the difference in the 16K & 64K ATR-8000s?

-Jess

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RetroJess

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Oct 13, 2010, 12:33:39 PM10/13/10
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Found this Petter Dassow in Deutschland:

http://www.z80.eu/service.html

who looks like a CP/M guru; if he cannot provide the disks or copy yours
he may know another source from which they could be obtained. Has an
email address on the site.

-Jess

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russg

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Oct 13, 2010, 3:03:42 PM10/13/10
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On Oct 13, 11:41 am, "RetroJess" <rjhamil...@pldi.net> wrote:
> That sounds interesting; wonder if it has any docs with it?
> Where did you find that, Russ? I might want to look at
> it just out of curiosity...
>
> -Jess
We're talking about CPM.ATR. I found it on Andreas Magenheimer CD he
sent me. It is from Germany.
I'm pretty sure it was Andreas.
I can post it on AtariAge and you can download it. It didn't have any
docs except for a small one about
TurboBASIC.
Let me know you want me to post on AtariAge.

PM7500

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Oct 16, 2010, 11:23:22 AM10/16/10
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What I'm looking for the floppies already made up. I've seen people in
other places who have tried making the discs from images but couldn't
because the boot track is special and the discs aren't bootable unless
you know how to format the disc properly. I don't have any of the
discs that came with the ATR so I need all of them.

On Oct 11, 12:03 pm, "RetroJess" <rjhamil...@pldi.net> wrote:

> I checked that, Russ. It is a utility for combining several small boot
> applications
> onto a single boot disk with a menu; just efficient use of disk space on the
> ATR.
>
> I think he needs the ATR8000 boot CP/M OS or possibly instructions for the
> arcane command line procedures to dupdsk it. I got my ATR used and it did
> not include any of the CP/M materials.
>
> -Jess
>

> "russg" <russg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message


>
> news:cf9e78ea-10c4-49b6...@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 6, 8:59 am, PM7500 <jburke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have the software that came with the ATR8000? I understand
> > the discs themselves are difficult to backup. Does anyone out there in
> > Atariland know how to make working copies of them or have copies they
> > would be willing to sell?
>
> all I could find is a atr8000_mutliboot_docs1.1.atr in Holmes.

> scroll down to atr8000.http://ftp.pigwa.net/stuff/collections/holmes%20cd/Holmes%201/ATR%20P...

Steven Hirsch

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Oct 16, 2010, 6:34:36 PM10/16/10
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On 10/16/2010 11:23 AM, PM7500 wrote:
> What I'm looking for the floppies already made up. I've seen people in
> other places who have tried making the discs from images but couldn't
> because the boot track is special and the discs aren't bootable unless
> you know how to format the disc properly. I don't have any of the
> discs that came with the ATR so I need all of them.

I have a couple of disks from a collection I acquired that claim to be CP/M
2.2 masters for the ATR8000. If anyone can elaborate on the formatting, I'd
be glad to try for a copy. I have a lot of ways to go at this, including a
Catweasel (which can read anything - with enough coding work).

I'm guessing they use Atari standard density (like a 90k diskette) on the boot
track (or tracks?), then DD (or ED) for the data. Anyone know for sure?

Steve

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