Help with DOS A.P.E. & Prosystem
Hornet
get anything to work. What I am trying to do specifically is to attach
my Atari 1050 to my DOS 6.22 Packard Bell 1750CDT (a 486/DX4 machine)
so that I can convert ATRs to real-disk format using the Prosystem
software. I currently only have the Prosystem shareware (version 1.18)
but I would be happy to register it if I can only see it work once.
I'm pretty sure that my mistake is in the COM port and interrupt setup
but I don't have any docs for the ancient DOS machine and I'm not
really sure what I should be putting in for those values. Any
suggestions?
All help would be much appreciated. Atari software is getting scarce.
(The good and valued services of Bravo-Sierra Computers
notwithstanding...)
Hornet.
Bill Kendrick
> All help would be much appreciated. Atari software is getting scarce.
> (The good and valued services of Bravo-Sierra Computers
> notwithstanding...)
Don't forget B&C Computervisions, BEST Electronics, and ebay (when you're
desperate... though I'm not sure I've even bought 8-bit computer stuff via
ebay.)
--
-bill!
Sent from my computer
Rick Cortese
> I recently purchased an SIO2PC (Serial port version) and can't seem to
> get anything to work. What I am trying to do specifically is to attach
> my Atari 1050 to my DOS 6.22 Packard Bell 1750CDT (a 486/DX4 machine)
> so that I can convert ATRs to real-disk format using the Prosystem
> software. I currently only have the Prosystem shareware (version 1.18)
> but I would be happy to register it if I can only see it work once.
If it isn't the latest incarnation of cable it may only work as a SIO2PC
cable and *NOT* in the Prosystem mode.
Do you have a real Atari? If so I would try hooking it up in SIO2PC mode
with the cable, APE as drive 2, and your 1050 as drive 1 to do the copying.
Rick
RetroJess
but MSD (MicroSoft Diagnostics) allows you to check which
are active under DOS 6.xx.
Win 3.1 gave you access to set some Com parameters at
Control Panel>Ports.
The standard address and IRQ should usually be:
COM1 $03F8 IRQ4
COM2 $02F8 IRQ3
COM3 $03E8 IRQ4
COM4 $02F8 IRQ3
hth, Jess
<Hornet> wrote in message news:a97kc5la9or91unvn...@4ax.com...
Hornet
>desperate... though I'm not sure I've even bought 8-bit computer stuff via
>ebay.)
Agreed. Although I have used eBay quite a bit and have only been
disappointed once or twice. In fact, I bought my current XL setup
completely on eBay and it works great.
Hornet.
Hornet
>cable and *NOT* in the Prosystem mode.
Yeah, it's pretty recent and I purchased it straight from AtariMax
where it was advertised as being able to work with the Prosystem
software.
>Do you have a real Atari? If so I would try hooking it up in SIO2PC mode
>with the cable, APE as drive 2, and your 1050 as drive 1 to do the copying.
Good advice and I will try this next. Hope it works.
Thanks.
>Rick
Dave.
Hornet
>COM1 $03F8 IRQ4
>COM2 $02F8 IRQ3
>COM3 $03E8 IRQ4
>COM4 $02F8 IRQ3
This is what I was looking for. Many thanks.
>hth, Jess
Dave.
russg
If I read you right, you're trying to hook your 1050 to the SIO2PC/Ape
cable. That won't work, there's other
adapters to do that, however, if you're trying to make real disks from
ATRs, you can do that with a sector
copier. You'd use the APE software, not the PRO system software in
1.18. Prosystem, as I understand it,
allows you to copy a copy protected disk that is in your 1050. Hmm.
I guess you do hook your 1050
directly to the APE/Pro adapter, but you'd be making PRO images for
use in APE, not making real
floppy disks from ATRs you get from various places. You'd make a PRO
copy of a copy protected disk,
then you could load those disks from the APE/PRO serial cable attached
directly to your Atari.
Sorry if none of this makes much sense. To summarize, I don't know
exactly what you're trying to do.
russg
Shoot, lemme try again. not 'then you could load those disks...'
but
then you could load those PRO images using APE software not the PRO
software.
APE on the PC acts like a floppy drive, you point to ATR or PRO images
that you have on the PC and load from them.
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> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:30:30 -0400
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> Subject: Help with DOS A.P.E. & Prosystem
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Steven Hirsch
> I recently purchased an SIO2PC (Serial port version) and can't seem to
> get anything to work. What I am trying to do specifically is to attach
> my Atari 1050 to my DOS 6.22 Packard Bell 1750CDT (a 486/DX4 machine)
> so that I can convert ATRs to real-disk format using the Prosystem
> software. I currently only have the Prosystem shareware (version 1.18)
> but I would be happy to register it if I can only see it work once.
If worse comes to worse, try installing a lightweight Linux distribution like
Xubuntu or Damn Small Linux and use Hias's atarixfer program. I've had great
success with it.
Also, you are hopefully aware that the SIO2PC requires +5V power to operate
and that this typically is supplied by having a running Atari computer on the
SIO bus along with the drive and the adapter? That one escaped me the first
time I fired mine up to do disk imaging :-). I ended up modifying the adapter
for external power, but don't attempt that unless you have electronic bench
experience.
Short answer: If the red LED is not illuminated and the green LEDs are not
both extinguished at idle then something basic is amiss with your setup.
russg
OK, yes you can write ATRs to real floppy in a 1050 using PRO118.EXE.
It isn't necessary, as you could use
a sector copier and APE118.EXE instead.
Bill Kendrick
> If worse comes to worse, try installing a lightweight Linux distribution like
> Xubuntu or Damn Small Linux and use Hias's atarixfer program. I've had great
> success with it.
So I've got Linux (and no Windows or APE), but I've got an SIO2PC adapter.
Is it possible for me to connect my 1050 directly to my PC via the SIO2PC
and use atarixfer to make backups of all of my aging floppies?
(What I had started doing before was 1050->Atari->SIO2PC->PC, but that
didn't seem to be working reliably.)
My main setup these days is an SIO2SD device. (In fact, the PC I've got
here that still has a serial cable is one I'm about to get rid of!)
The thought of having to create dozens or hundreds of blank virtual disks
(ATR files), then mount them one by one and copy floppy disk content to
them through my 800XL or 1200XL seems... tedious.
Being able to just hook the 1050 drive up directly to a PC and then
use the PC's command line to say: "copy what's on the floppy and make
a new ATR file out of it" seems much more appealing.
How do I tell whether I can do this? :)
-bill!
Matthias Reichl
On 06 Oct 2009 18:00:04 GMT, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> Steven Hirsch <snhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If worse comes to worse, try installing a lightweight Linux distribution like
>> Xubuntu or Damn Small Linux and use Hias's atarixfer program. I've had great
>> success with it.
>
> So I've got Linux (and no Windows or APE), but I've got an SIO2PC adapter.
>
> Is it possible for me to connect my 1050 directly to my PC via the SIO2PC
> and use atarixfer to make backups of all of my aging floppies?
It depends on your interface. The interface sold by Atarimax is an
autoswitching SIO2PC / 1050-2-PC interface. You just have to supply
+5V if you want to use it in 1050-2-PC mode.
Most other interfaces are either SIO2PC ("atariserver only") or
1050-2-PC ("atarixfer only"). A few interfaces can be switched
from SIO2PC to 1050-2-PC.
Personally I'm using a homebrew SIO2PC and a homebrew 1050-2-PC
interface - and connect the one that I need.
> Being able to just hook the 1050 drive up directly to a PC and then
> use the PC's command line to say: "copy what's on the floppy and make
> a new ATR file out of it" seems much more appealing.
Yes, this is a lot easier.
BTW: I uploaded a new snapshot (090625) a few days ago. The new
version also supports 38kbps transfer modes (XF551 highspeed and
Happy Warp speed) in atarixfer. If you've got a 16C950 card in your
PC you can also use Ultra Speed (Happy, Speedy, ~60kbps) and 1050 Turbo
Speed (~70kbps) with atarixfer and up to 126kbps with atariserver.
so long,
Hias
Steven Hirsch
>>> If worse comes to worse, try installing a lightweight Linux distribution like
>>> Xubuntu or Damn Small Linux and use Hias's atarixfer program. I've had great
>>> success with it.
>> So I've got Linux (and no Windows or APE), but I've got an SIO2PC adapter.
>>
>> Is it possible for me to connect my 1050 directly to my PC via the SIO2PC
>> and use atarixfer to make backups of all of my aging floppies?
>
> It depends on your interface. The interface sold by Atarimax is an
> autoswitching SIO2PC / 1050-2-PC interface. You just have to supply
> +5V if you want to use it in 1050-2-PC mode.
Just to pick one nit: You also need to install pull-up resistors on three of
the incoming signals to use without an Atari on the bus. However, it may be
simpler to plug in and power up your Atari and leave it attached while you run
atarixfer on the PC. Works just fine, but DO NOT try to access any
peripherals from the Atari while the SIO has the bus! That may very well let
the magic smoke out of something (figuratively speaking - you won't see
anything but it can cause damage).
Steve