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Apple IIgs (which monitor?)

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VZE26PJV

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Dec 25, 2001, 11:29:33 PM12/25/01
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I recently bought a IIgs from Ebay with no monitor. I would like o get the
monitor that is supposed to be used with the original unit.

I see a ton of old monitors on Ebay, but I do not know which one to get.
Whicg size, anything special to look for, I want it ot fit nicley on the top
of the unit.

Regards,
Damon


George Rentovich

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Dec 26, 2001, 12:34:55 AM12/26/01
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Hi,
The only one that I know that works with both the 40 and 80 col. is a 12-13
inch AppleColor RGB Model No. A2M6014. This is the one that came with the
IIgs.
Be sure to get the Video cable with it (DB 15 cable). The shipping will cost a
bit to ship. The closer you are the cheaper the shipping. Where are you
located?

Take Care George from Michigan

VZE26PJV

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Dec 26, 2001, 3:01:39 AM12/26/01
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This model number "M0401" will not work well with the IIgs? I want one to
sit perfectly on top of the unit.

Damon


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David Empson

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Dec 26, 2001, 4:49:02 AM12/26/01
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rVZE26PJV <ramb...@verizon.net> wrote:

> This model number "M0401" will not work well with the IIgs?

No, it won't. I don't know exactly which model that is, but I can tell
from the 'M' in the model number that it is a Macintosh monitor, and no
Mactinosh-specific monitor will work on the IIgs.

The Mac normally uses VGA-like output frequencies, with progressive scan
(no interlacing) producing at least 340 lines of video at refresh rates
of 60 Hz or higher and horizontal scan frequencies starting around 30
kHz.

The IIgs (along with every other Apple II) was designed to be more or
less compatible with television, so its video output is much slower: 50
or 60 Hz refresh, but only 200 lines per screen and the horizontal scan
rate is about 15.75 kHz. It doesn't use interlacing.

The IIgs RGB monitor (A2M6014) is designed to work within these
specifications, and will not work on most Mac models. (It is possible
to use it with some video cards, but only in a really ugly 400 line
interlaced mode.)

Mac monitors are designed to work with the Mac's higher scan frequency,
and are not able to sync with the much slower signal produced by the
IIgs.

If you cannot locate the genuine Apple IIgs RGB monitor (which is called
an "AppleColor RGB" monitor, just like some of the earlier Mac
monitors), you can use the RGB monitor from an Amiga 1000 or Atari
520ST, which have similar video output. Old multi-sync analog RGB
monitors were also able to support TV-like video sources, but anything
in the last ten years (or more?) won't work on the IIgs.

Even older machines used digital RGB (Apple ///, some Apple II video
cards; the PC had CGA and EGA). These won't work on the IIgs either,
since it generates an analog RGB signal.

Leslie Ayling

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Dec 27, 2001, 2:07:26 AM12/27/01
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The Commodore 1084s can be easily wired to work with the IIgs.

I have been using one for the last 5 years or so, and it is a cheap
option if you can't get the genuine Apple variety.

Leslie

Rich Beaudry

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Dec 27, 2001, 9:21:54 AM12/27/01
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"VZE26PJV" <ramb...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<NmcW7.5348$Bq1...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> I recently bought a IIgs from Ebay with no monitor. I would like o get the
> monitor that is supposed to be used with the original unit.
>

I have MANY of the original monitors that came with the IIgs, along
with data cables. I am willing to sell them for the cost of shipping
alone.. The shipping weight of the monitors is about 25lbs., in a
20"x20"x20" box. You can go to www.usps.com, to calculate shipping
(my ZIP is 01473, Massachusetts, USA). Be SURE to note on the
calculations page that the box is oversized (more than 17" high),
because that carries a surcharge....

You can email me off-list for more details, or if you are interested.

Rich B.

Will Strutts

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Dec 28, 2001, 2:54:47 AM12/28/01
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> rVZE26PJV <ramb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > This model number "M0401" will not work well with the IIgs?
>
> No, it won't. I don't know exactly which model that is, but I can tell
> from the 'M' in the model number that it is a Macintosh monitor, and no
> Mactinosh-specific monitor will work on the IIgs.
>

It is a Macintosh "High Resolution Monitor" which came with the
original Mac II's.

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C'est moi! http://www.facelink.com/wrstrutts

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SharpShooter

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Dec 29, 2001, 2:09:15 PM12/29/01
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Leslie Ayling wrote:
>
> The Commodore 1084s can be easily wired to work with the IIgs.
>
> I have been using one for the last 5 years or so, and it is a cheap
> option if you can't get the genuine Apple variety.
>
> Leslie


Could you explain how to perform that hack ?

Is it possible to do it with CBM 1940s monitors ?

Thanks,

Martin.

SharpShooter

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Jan 2, 2002, 2:49:09 AM1/2/02
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Leslie Ayling wrote:
>
> The Commodore 1084s can be easily wired to work with the IIgs.
>
> I have been using one for the last 5 years or so, and it is a cheap
> option if you can't get the genuine Apple variety.
>
> Leslie

SharpShooter

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Feb 19, 2002, 4:21:18 AM2/19/02
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Few weeks ago, Leslie Ayling wrote:
>
> The Commodore 1084s can be easily wired to work with the IIgs.
>
> I have been using one for the last 5 years or so, and it is a cheap
> option if you can't get the genuine Apple variety.
>
> Leslie


Could somebody explain how to perform that hack ?

Leslie Ayling

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Feb 20, 2002, 8:14:05 AM2/20/02
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"SharpShooter" <sharp_...@mac.com> wrote in message
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Hi Martin et al.

The CSA faq's contain some info on using a 1084d monitor (the one with a 9
pin d connector)
with the IIgs but make no mention of the earlier and more commonplace 1084.

The earlier 1084 has no composite SYNC input on the 6 pin Din Analog input,
only seperate HSYNC and VSYNC inputs.

Internally the HSYNC and VSYNC signals are just joined together through a
couple
of 480 Ohm resistors.

If you connect the composite SYNC output of the IIgs to either the VSYNC or
HSYNC
inputs of the 1084 (BUT NOT BOTH!) it works just fine.

I used a lead as follows with success:

Apple 15D <-> 1084 6Din. (ANALOG)

13 GND 3
2 RED 4
5 GRN 1
9 BLU 5
3 SYNC 2 (HSYNC)


Enjoy

Leslie


h.christ...@googlemail.com

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Feb 16, 2016, 7:05:23 AM2/16/16
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'Hi Rich,

do you have anyone of these monitors?

Regards

H.-Christian

Ron McGill

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Oct 27, 2023, 4:56:48 PM10/27/23
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Hi Rich B, A shot in the dark but willing to take a chance. Do you still have working iigs monitors? Let me know please. Thanks!
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