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Steve Savage

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May 6, 2005, 2:18:06 PM5/6/05
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I have an apple iic (5.25") and also and apple iie card in a mac.

Every disk I put in the apple iic I now get a clicking sound, and the error:
"check drive", I've tried the same disks on the apple iie card and they seem
to work.

I remember reading something about an apple basic command to reset the
drive, but can't find it anymore... can anyone help?

I have KQ IV, SQ1&2 by sierra on disk, and they don't seem to work on the
iie card, but I sure they worked on the apple iic, I want to know if the
disks are dead or not.

Thanks.
Steve.

BluPhoenyx

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May 6, 2005, 3:34:18 PM5/6/05
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A few possibilities come to mind.

1. dirty drive head.

2. drive speed too fast or too slow.

3. drive hardware is bad.

I've never had much trouble with any of these and I've owned a //c since
1984. Of course it hasn't been used much lately.

You can try the built in test. IIRC you press these keys together. I
don't recall this checking the drive but it will verify the basic hardware.

OPEN APPLE
CLOSED APPLE
CONTROL
RESET

You can test the drive with several programs but this requires a
functional drive to boot with. Rather a catch 22 here. I suggest
Copy2Plus, a very useful utility.

There may also be problems when writing disks on one system and reading
them on another. IIRC, this usually was caused by too much variance
between drive speeds.

Cheers,
Mike T.

Steve Savage

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May 6, 2005, 4:21:34 PM5/6/05
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Thanks, I've got it working I did pr#7, nothing happend, then pr#5, still
got the error,
tried pr#6 and suddenly it read the disk, but showed weird stuff on the
screen, did pr#5 again, and it works....

Still don't seem to be able to access the duo drive yet, but working on it.
Want to create .nib images of KQ1-4, and SQ1 and 2 from sierra.
Thanks for your help
Steve.

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Bill Garber

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May 6, 2005, 5:10:34 PM5/6/05
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"Steve Savage" <realit...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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: I have an apple iic (5.25") and also and apple iie card in a mac.

:
: Every disk I put in the apple iic I now get a clicking sound, and the
error:
: "check drive", I've tried the same disks on the apple iie card and they
seem
: to work.
:
: I remember reading something about an apple basic command to reset the
: drive, but can't find it anymore... can anyone help?

This might help.


Place the cleaning disk in your drive and
turn on the Apple or reboot several times
to allow for the full 30 seconds.

Oh, wait a IIc is smarter than that...

Turn on the IIc and press crtl-reset to
get to a basic prompt, "]" then type the
poke command followed by the numbers below
and press enter.

POKE -16151,0 TURNS ON DRIVE 1
POKE -16135,0 TURNS ON DRIVE 2
POKE -16152,0 TURNS OFF DRIVE 1
POKE -16136,0 TURNS OFF DRIVE 2


Apple II Forever, Apple II Together
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Ed Eastman

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May 6, 2005, 5:34:07 PM5/6/05
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Bill Garber wrote:
> Place the cleaning disk in your drive and
> turn on the Apple or reboot several times
> to allow for the full 30 seconds.
>
> Oh, wait a IIc is smarter than that...

That looks familiar... very familiar...

Thankx,
Ed

Steve Savage

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May 7, 2005, 1:10:36 PM5/7/05
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Thanks, seems be mostly working now but a bit touchy (stops working after
about 10 mins, then do the pr#6 again, and it starts again... wierd).


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BluPhoenyx

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May 7, 2005, 4:57:13 PM5/7/05
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Steve Savage wrote:
> Thanks, seems be mostly working now but a bit touchy (stops working after
> about 10 mins, then do the pr#6 again, and it starts again... wierd).

This sounds more like a motherboard problem. Possibly faulty RAM or heat
build up. In the few models I've got, there is little to replace. Most
chips are soldered to the board. My original 2c had the CPU and MMU free
so I could easily add the ZRAM but I've seen one which the MMU was
soldered to the motherboard. That one also had a keyboard with metal
base. You might try removing and replacing any chips which are socketed
as well as any cables.

Cheers,
Mike T.

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