Apple's Pippin console makes list "25 Worst Tech Products of All Time"
AirRaid
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PC World says Apple's Pippin is the "worst"
Posted May 28th 2006 11:00PM by Christopher Grant
Filed under: Mac, Retro
PC World magazine listed Apple's ill-fated game console, the Pippin,
22nd on their list of the "25 Worst Tech Products of All Time,"
writing:
"Apple had an Internet-capable game console that connected to your TV.
But it ran on a weak PowerPC processor and came with a puny 14.4-kbps
modem, so it was stupendously slow offline and online. Then, too, it
was based on the Mac OS, so almost no games were available for it. And
it cost nearly $600--nearly twice as much as other, far more powerful
game consoles."
Of course, we recognize the Pippin not only for its contribution to the
annals of also-ran consoles, but also as fodder for years of subsequent
rumors of another Apple game console. Of course, it also lets Mac
zealots everywhere point and stomp, claiming gaming consoles as yet
another area where Apple beat their arch-nemesis Microsoft to the
proverbial punch. Might want to let this one die fellas, it's just
better that way.
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guess Apple and Intel better NOT try to come up with an answer to
Xbox360 and PS3, then.
ZnU
"AirRaid" <AirRa...@gmail.com> wrote:
At least Apple had the decency to cancel Pippin. I notice IE 6, which is
on the list as well, is still the current version of IE all these years
later. Nice work, Microsoft.
--
"Those who enter the country illegally violate the law."
-- George W. Bush in Tucson, Ariz., Nov. 28, 2005
furious gibbon
> At least Apple had the decency to cancel Pippin. I notice IE 6, which is
> on the list as well, is still the current version of IE all these years
> later. Nice work, Microsoft.
>
HAHAHAHAA so true
Craig Koller
> http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/28/pc-world-says-apples-pippin-is-the-worst/
>
> _______________________________________________
> PC World says Apple's Pippin is the "worst"
>
> Posted May 28th 2006 11:00PM by Christopher Grant
> Filed under: Mac, Retro
>
> PC World magazine listed Apple's ill-fated game console, the Pippin,
> 22nd on their list of the "25 Worst Tech Products of All Time,"
> writing:
>
> "Apple had an Internet-capable game console that connected to your TV.
> But it ran on a weak PowerPC processor and came with a puny 14.4-kbps
> modem, so it was stupendously slow offline and online. Then, too, it
> was based on the Mac OS, so almost no games were available for it. And
> it cost nearly $600--nearly twice as much as other, far more powerful
> game consoles."
PC World is right. I dug up my reaction to Pippin ten years ago...
At the end of the thread, I note Apple's revisions to make the console
viable for markets beyond gaming. Turned out to be way too little too
late.
Craig Koller
> http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/28/pc-world-says-apples-pippin-is-the-worst/
>
> _______________________________________________
> PC World says Apple's Pippin is the "worst"
>
> Posted May 28th 2006 11:00PM by Christopher Grant
> Filed under: Mac, Retro
>
> PC World magazine listed Apple's ill-fated game console, the Pippin,
> 22nd on their list of the "25 Worst Tech Products of All Time,"
> writing:
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Actually, if they were to expand the scope of the article to highlight
tech "blunders" then Apple's execution (as in assassination) of
Hypercard would probably eclipse the Pippin debacle.
Ironically, if Hypercard had been supported and the Pippin properly
engineered and marketed, the two technologies might have synergized one
another like iTMS and the iPod do today.
Maybe...
Wes Groleau
ZnU wrote:
> "AirRaid" <AirRa...@gmail.com> quoted:
>
>> http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/28/pc-world-says-apples-pippin-is-the-worst/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC World says Apple's Pippin is the "worst"
>> [snip]
>> zealots everywhere point and stomp, claiming gaming consoles as yet
>> another area where Apple beat their arch-nemesis Microsoft to the
>> proverbial punch. Might want to let this one die fellas, it's just
>> better that way.
>> ___________________________________________________
>>
>> guess Apple and Intel better NOT try to come up with an answer to
>> Xbox360 and PS3, then.
>
> At least Apple had the decency to cancel Pippin. I notice IE 6, which is
> on the list as well, is still the current version of IE all these years
> later. Nice work, Microsoft.
And this is _PC_ World reporting it.
--
Wes Groleau
Alive and Well
http://freepages.religions.rootsweb.com/~wgroleau/
Timberwoof
Wes Groleau <grolea...@freeshell.org> wrote:
Oh, dear. An Apple product dead for ten years sucked. I guess I better not buy
into OS X. Is that the logic? Well, more than half of the products in the list
were for DOS or Windows. I guess I won't buy into Windows, then!
I liked the M$ Windoze fanboy who responded to the article about Pippin with
"Why can't the mac fanboys just realize that nobody really gives a damn about
OSX?" What an idiot.
--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
If Macintosh is a luxury cruise ship,
then Linux is a freighter with wood paneling in the officers' quarters.
Mitch
Timberwoof <timbe...@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote:
> Oh, dear. An Apple product dead for ten years sucked. I guess I better not
> buy
> into OS X. Is that the logic? Well, more than half of the products in the
> list
> were for DOS or Windows. I guess I won't buy into Windows, then!
Just because someone writes an article like that doesn't mean they were
trying to make a point about OS choice with it -- nor does it have to
have some ultimate purpose.
It's an article about failed tech -- that's enough to be interesting.
mdj
Craig Koller wrote:
> Actually, if they were to expand the scope of the article to highlight
> tech "blunders" then Apple's execution (as in assassination) of
> Hypercard would probably eclipse the Pippin debacle.
Ah yes. I've often mused over the concept of a WWW powered by a browser
that more resembled hypercard in terms of design. Imagine the effort
that could be saved world wide if we had a nice, simple, layout engine,
easy to use WYSIWYG tools plus a scripting language that made sense,
like HyperTalk. Boy that product was ahead of its time.
Matt
Ilgaz Öcal
>> At least Apple had the decency to cancel Pippin. I notice IE 6, which
>> is on the list as well, is still the current version of IE all these
>> years later. Nice work, Microsoft.
>
> And this is _PC_ World reporting it.
Well they do their "PC World" job too, Real player was shown like dead
or something. So, it makes it neutral article :)
Real built an empire on Symbian and Linux based (device) stuff not even
counting it is the only maintained 3rd party multimedia player besides
iTunes on Apple OS X. Sorry, flip4mac doesn't count.
They also have 2.2 million paying subcsribers. How many people pay to
wmedia broadband services? Sorry, they don't exist :)
Thing is, the PC World is considered a reliable and "fun" source and I
have just read an article calling realplayer dead in my language.
So... Overpriced, never doing the job right, never scalable to Helix
server levels Windows Media Server and Windows Enterprise resellers
have a good ,reliable "reference" in their hands now.
Sad is, people still attack Real Player (on geek sites) while they have
a never maintained anymore Windows Media Player which doesn't even work
on Mactel in hand.
Ilgaz
Edwin
It takes a real Mac Zealot to try to make Apple's bumbling incompetence
come out as a good_thing.
I wonder if all the vendors who wasted money on catalogs, advertising,
order processing, etc., blew off their losses by sneering at MS IE?
Somehow it doesn't seem likely...
Michael J. Mahon
> http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/28/pc-world-says-apples-pippin-is-the-worst/
>
> _______________________________________________
> PC World says Apple's Pippin is the "worst"
Please stop crossposting off-topic material to com.sys.apple2.
-michael
Parallel computing for 8-bit Apple II's!
Home page: http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/
"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it is seriously underused."
Timberwoof
Mitch <mi...@hawaii.rr> wrote:
Maybe I suspected that since someone posted about the article in a Mac
advocacy newsgroup (and a bunch of others) and titled the post
specificaly about an Apple product, it meant he was slagging Apple and
was trying to start a flamewar.
NRen2k5
> guess Apple and Intel better NOT try to come up with an answer to
> Xbox360 and PS3, then.
You mean XBox360 and Wii. Nobody's interested in PS3.
Also, Ridge Racer. RIIIIIIIIIIDGE Racer! :p
- NRen2k5
NRen2k5
> Sad is, people still attack Real Player (on geek sites) while they have
> a never maintained anymore Windows Media Player which doesn't even work
> on Mactel in hand.
Sad is, you tards still think there are people who use Windows Media Player.
- NRen2k5
Lyrical Nanoha
As troubleshooter for a fansub group I can assure you people do use WMP,
RealPlayer and DivX Player still.
-uso.
AirRaid Mach 2.5
it's not really off-topic. apple was started by ex-Atari people.
Apple II series played games. not any other active Apple groups.
Pippin is relavant to Apple II group since there is no Pippin group.
people need to get over being "irritated" by crossposting.
Scott Alfter
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In article <1149080394.6...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
AirRaid Mach 2.5 <airraid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Michael J. Mahon wrote:
>> AirRaid wrote:
>> > [URL deleted]
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > PC World says Apple's Pippin is the "worst"
>>
>> Please stop crossposting off-topic material to com.sys.apple2.
>
>it's not really off-topic.
Trust us, it is.
>apple was started by ex-Atari people. Apple II series played games. not
>any other active Apple groups.
You're saying there are no games for the Mac? You're even more clueless
than I thought.
>Pippin is relavant to Apple II group since there is no Pippin group.
There are no discussion-oriented newsgroups for the eMate or iPod, either.
Does that mean eMate or iPod discussion belongs in comp.sys.apple2?
>people need to get over being "irritated" by crossposting.
Wankers like you need to FOAD. There's a reason crossposting makes us
cranky. That you are too feeble-minded to figure that out is your problem,
not ours.
(Your Cell crossposts to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips were no better than
your more recent "efforts," BTW.)
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Wes Groleau
>
> Sad is, you tards still think there are people who use Windows Media
> Player.
It ain't iTunes, but--
- It's usable
- The machines at work don't have anything else
--
Wes Groleau
You always have time for what you do first.
Michael J. Mahon
> In article <1148874814.6...@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "AirRaid" <AirRa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
>
>
> Hardware Company of the Year
> With a huge RD budget and a single-minded despot running the show, Apple
> once again introduced products that made everyone else look bad. iPods
> (#36) that play video have created a new market for reruns, Core
> Duo-based Macs (#35) have expanded the market for Intel chips, and Boot
> Camp software (#10) has opened the door to running Windows on the Mac
> hardware. We continue to hope that some of the Cupertino crowd's design
> ideas will trickle down to the rest of the tech industry
Please remove comp.sys.apple2 from this crosspost thread.
Fred Liken
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Mitch
Edwin <thor...@juno.com> wrote:
> > At least Apple had the decency to cancel Pippin. I notice IE 6, which is
> > on the list as well, is still the current version of IE all these years
> > later. Nice work, Microsoft.
>
> It takes a real Mac Zealot to try to make Apple's bumbling incompetence
> come out as a good_thing.
The sentence refers to their willingness to cancel the product -- it
does not glamorize the bad product or that they madde a bad product.
It is acknowledgement they are not controlled by idiots.
That is a good thing, always.
The mistake has not been shown to be 'bumbling incompetence' -- only
that it was a bad product, or at a bad time, or not marketed well, or
some other related issue.
> I wonder if all the vendors who wasted money on catalogs, advertising,
> order processing, etc., blew off their losses by sneering at MS IE?
> Somehow it doesn't seem likely...
You don't have to 'sneer' at IE -- but you don't have to build
specifically for it. And I'd bet NO ONE has ever lost money by making a
broadly-compatible Web site. Many companies HAVE lost business by
making their site IE-only!