Color Composite monitor for platinum IIe
Matthew S. Carpenter
I've been getting stuff for a bare platinum Apple IIe I picked up
recently and just got to thinking.... the only color composite monitors
I have are rather deep and really wont look right sitting on the
platinum IIe. I can deal with it for now... but things like that do
tend to annoy me after a while. Did Apple make a color composite monitor
that looks like it was meant to match with the platinum IIe?
Before getting this IIe I've only had my IIgs, so I'm not really very
familiar with Apple's composite monitors.
-Matt
Lyrical Nanoha
> Hi,
>
> I've been getting stuff for a bare platinum Apple IIe I picked up
> recently and just got to thinking.... the only color composite monitors
> I have are rather deep and really wont look right sitting on the
> platinum IIe. I can deal with it for now... but things like that do
> tend to annoy me after a while. Did Apple make a color composite monitor
> that looks like it was meant to match with the platinum IIe?
Sure did, had one.
-uso.
Michael J. Mahon
But it, too, was pretty deep.
The AppleColor Composite monitor for the //e was 14" deep.
Most color monitors have narrow deflection angles relative
to monochrome monitors, because of the need to minimize
aberrations with the larger tri-beam bundle.
If the monitor is placed so that the screen plane is near
the place where the //e top flattens out (as is common with
monochrome monitors), it projects six inches further back
than the //e, which is rather deep itself. Of course, if
you have any large-cabled devices plugged into your //e,
they will take up 3"-4" behind it, even turning sharply.
Bottom line, there are no "shallow" color CRT monitors
relative to their screen size. They will be at least
as deep as their screen size, and sometimes deeper.
-michael
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Matthew S. Carpenter
Oh, I should have worded better... I'm refering to the bottom of the
monitor that would actually sit on the IIe.... the monitors I have would
have two of their rubber feet sitting off the IIe in back, so they
wouldn't nessesarily be sitting very stabily... as long as the monitor
actually fits on the IIe properly(and preferably has a same color case
as the platinum IIe), that's what I'm looking for.
Michael J. Mahon
Ah--well, it's unfortunately too deep for that, too. The //e color
monitor has its back "feet" at the very back, so they wouldn't sit on
top of the //e either. Maybe "auxiliary" feet could be added to the
monitor mid-way between the front and back...
ISTR that the Amdek monitor had its center of gravity well forward,
and could perch on the 7" to 8" of usable flat space on top of a
][ or //e.
ziggy
You could easily build a hidden shelf that mounts to the bottom of the
monitor so it fits in the 'well' on top of the ][.
Sean Fahey
both sit on my machines quite nicely without overhang or stability problems.
What's the part number on yours?
Roger Johnstone
>
> Oh, I should have worded better... I'm refering to the bottom of the
> monitor that would actually sit on the IIe.... the monitors I have
> would have two of their rubber feet sitting off the IIe in back, so
> they wouldn't nessesarily be sitting very stabily... as long as the
> monitor actually fits on the IIe properly(and preferably has a same
> color case as the platinum IIe), that's what I'm looking for.
I have a platinum IIe with the matching Apple monitor. It's an
'AppleColor Composite Monitor IIe', model A2M6021X. The Apple logo on
the monitor is on the bottom right face of the monitor, so it sits
vertically in line with the logo on the platinum IIe which is on the
right just above the keyboard.
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base sits exactly on the Apple IIe's casing. I believe the plastic is
a beige color, but my Platinum IIe has become somewhat beige.
Michael J. Mahon
It's an A2M6020.
The depth of the base of the monitor is 11.5", with an additional
1.5" protrusion behind the back of the base. The plane of the
screen is about 0.5" in front of the front of the base.
The flat part of the Apple II case is about 8" in depth (with 6.5"
being the depth of the indented part of the case).
Although it can be stacked on top of a //e, I wouldn't want the
screen any closer than the start of the flat part of the case.
In that position, the back "feet" are off the //e, and the total
overhang in the back (for wall clearance) is about 6".
The center of gravity is dominated by the screen itself, so I
wouldn't expect any stability problems, but it would be good to
stick on two more "feet" to make contact with the rear of the
//e case.
My point is that it is much more ungainly than a much thinner
monochrome monitor, which fits neatly on the flat of the //e case.
Michael J. Mahon
> In <PsSdndnWren...@comcast.com> Matthew S. Carpenter wrote:
>
>>Oh, I should have worded better... I'm refering to the bottom of the
>>monitor that would actually sit on the IIe.... the monitors I have
>>would have two of their rubber feet sitting off the IIe in back, so
>>they wouldn't nessesarily be sitting very stabily... as long as the
>>monitor actually fits on the IIe properly(and preferably has a same
>>color case as the platinum IIe), that's what I'm looking for.
>
>
> I have a platinum IIe with the matching Apple monitor. It's an
> 'AppleColor Composite Monitor IIe', model A2M6021X. The Apple logo on
> the monitor is on the bottom right face of the monitor, so it sits
> vertically in line with the logo on the platinum IIe which is on the
> right just above the keyboard.
That's too close for me, even with my bifocals! ;-)
PZ
awesome B/W - Color Switch which makes 80col text very readable. I
don't know of any other monitor that offered this feature unless you go
to an RGB option where you wouldn't need it.
- Paul
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I had a Magnavox with this feature.
Cheers,
Mike T.
Charlie
"Matthew S. Carpenter" <super...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:PsSdndnWren...@comcast.com...
I have an Apple ColorMonitor IIe #A2M2056. It accepts the IIe composite
video. It has a base that is about 8 inches deep and 14.5 inches wide so it
sits perfectly on a beige IIe or a Duodisk #A9M0108. I don't know if the
Platinum IIe is the same size.
This is a great monitor. It displays sharp 80 column text and it has the
Black and White / Color switch.
Charlie
Linards Ticmanis
The Commodore 1084 has a switch that disables the bandwidth cap for
composite signals. It's intended for the S-Video mode, but very likely
it will improve a monochrome signal as well.
--
Linards Ticmanis
Simon D. Williams
> Sean Fahey wrote:
> > I have platinum colored Monitor II (green) and Color Monitor IIe - they
> > both sit on my machines quite nicely without overhang or stability
> > problems.
> >
> > What's the part number on yours?
>
> It's an A2M6020.
Michael, I think you might find that monitor fits very nicely on a IIgs,
which I believe is what it was intended for. The AppleColor Composite
Monitor IIe (part number A2M6021) has the same footprint as the standard
monochrome monitor and more closely matches the styling of the platinum
IIe, though it still has a good 6" rear projection.
-s
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Michael J. Mahon
> On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Michael J. Mahon wrote:
>
>
>>Sean Fahey wrote:
>>
>>>I have platinum colored Monitor II (green) and Color Monitor IIe - they
>>>both sit on my machines quite nicely without overhang or stability
>>>problems.
>>>
>>>What's the part number on yours?
>>
>>It's an A2M6020.
>
>
> Michael, I think you might find that monitor fits very nicely on a IIgs,
> which I believe is what it was intended for. The AppleColor Composite
> Monitor IIe (part number A2M6021) has the same footprint as the standard
> monochrome monitor and more closely matches the styling of the platinum
> IIe, though it still has a good 6" rear projection.
Interesting! So they packaged the same monitor in slightly
different cases...ISTR that there was a IIc version, as well.
It would fit on a IIgs fine (though I probably wouldn't use a composite
monitor with a IIgs), and the detached keyboard of the IIgs would solve
my distance-to-the-screen problem.
<runs out to garage...>
I just checked in my garage and found an A2M2056 ColorMonitor //e.
I see that it is almost identical in overall size, but has five feet
positioned to sit atop the flat part of a //e, with that overhang that
you describe!
Frankly, I had never paid much attention to the different case styles
of this monitor until now, being much more impressed with the internals.
Since I usually run my //e with the top open and the monitor behind,
I probably won't immediately switch monitors, but you've prepared me
for the day when I want to close up my //e. ;-)
Michael J. Mahon
Ah, but the wonderful thing about the AppleColor line of composite
monitors is that they switch video bandwidth automatically based
on the presence or absence of the color burst, as well as manually
with a switch.
Stephen E Buggie
condition. Will sell them for $20.00 each, plus shipping (UPS-ground).
Because of their large size, I'd recommend a separate carton for each
monitor. Both are excellent; even the flip-down "door" over the control
panel is intact. BTW: Since this is a composite monitor (RCA jack), it can
also be iused on the "video-out" jack of a VCR video player, to see the
picture (no sound). Steve Buggie
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