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Want to get rid of my Rev-0... but how?
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N.N. Thayer
May 30, 2013, 8:13:19 AM5/30/13
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Okay, first off, let's get the photos out of the way:
http://imgur.com/a/bK4ll#0
I originally picked it up as a curiosity for about $900 six years ago. I've enjoyed tinkering with it, but the steadily decreasing role of my Apple II hobby in my life means that I'll never do this machine justice in terms of actually using it.
Anyway, you can see that it's the genuine article, and as far as I can tell, every single component - motherboard, ROM, RAM, power supply, keyboard, everything - is original. In a long-ago Applefritter thread, Mike Willegal placed the date of manufacture at spring/summer 1978.
And... it works. It all works. This Rev-0 machine is fully functional.
I'm just not sure how to do this. I could chuck it up on eBay and milk it for a few thousand, or whatever a Rev-0 is going for these days - but far, far more important than the money is ensuring that it goes to someone that will take proper care of it and subject it to regular use (since that's one of the best ways to preserve old electronics). There's no way to guarantee that with some random eBay buyer. This machine is a fantastic specimen and I want to make sure that it remains one, instead of slowly decaying under glass somewhere. I mean, I'd like to get something in the ballpark of a fair market value for it, but that takes a distant backseat to getting it into caring hands.
Four notes:
- The keyboard is temperamental but every key does work. "Ctrl" and "D" take a bit of coaxing sometimes.
- The switch on the power supply is not to be trusted; I heard a protesting capacitor the last couple of times I used it, so since then, I've bypassed it with a System Saver style fan. Using that, there's no problem.
- Either the covers on the 16K memory blocks are missing, or they weren't there in the first place - you can see the wiring that's underneath.
- The internal speaker has a small tear; the computer came to me with the speaker having worked its way free of whatever adhesive held it to the case. I put some Scotch tape on the bottom.
Other than those things, everything is perfect. RAM checks out with the Apple II diagnostics disk. I've never experienced a single hiccup when using it. And cosmetically, it's basically flawless. The case is a little grimy, but frankly, I didn't trust myself to clean it without harming the paint somehow.
I'm terrified of shipping it. I can pack until I'm blue in the face, but this thing is 35 years old and there's nothing I can do about a ten-foot drop by some careless worker, or storage at unpalatably high temperatures. I'd much rather do a local pickup, but I live in freaking Connecticut now and I know that often might as well be Mars for anyone not already in this part of the country.
So... yeah. Just not sure how to do this thing.
http://imgur.com/a/bK4ll#0
I originally picked it up as a curiosity for about $900 six years ago. I've enjoyed tinkering with it, but the steadily decreasing role of my Apple II hobby in my life means that I'll never do this machine justice in terms of actually using it.
Anyway, you can see that it's the genuine article, and as far as I can tell, every single component - motherboard, ROM, RAM, power supply, keyboard, everything - is original. In a long-ago Applefritter thread, Mike Willegal placed the date of manufacture at spring/summer 1978.
And... it works. It all works. This Rev-0 machine is fully functional.
I'm just not sure how to do this. I could chuck it up on eBay and milk it for a few thousand, or whatever a Rev-0 is going for these days - but far, far more important than the money is ensuring that it goes to someone that will take proper care of it and subject it to regular use (since that's one of the best ways to preserve old electronics). There's no way to guarantee that with some random eBay buyer. This machine is a fantastic specimen and I want to make sure that it remains one, instead of slowly decaying under glass somewhere. I mean, I'd like to get something in the ballpark of a fair market value for it, but that takes a distant backseat to getting it into caring hands.
Four notes:
- The keyboard is temperamental but every key does work. "Ctrl" and "D" take a bit of coaxing sometimes.
- The switch on the power supply is not to be trusted; I heard a protesting capacitor the last couple of times I used it, so since then, I've bypassed it with a System Saver style fan. Using that, there's no problem.
- Either the covers on the 16K memory blocks are missing, or they weren't there in the first place - you can see the wiring that's underneath.
- The internal speaker has a small tear; the computer came to me with the speaker having worked its way free of whatever adhesive held it to the case. I put some Scotch tape on the bottom.
Other than those things, everything is perfect. RAM checks out with the Apple II diagnostics disk. I've never experienced a single hiccup when using it. And cosmetically, it's basically flawless. The case is a little grimy, but frankly, I didn't trust myself to clean it without harming the paint somehow.
I'm terrified of shipping it. I can pack until I'm blue in the face, but this thing is 35 years old and there's nothing I can do about a ten-foot drop by some careless worker, or storage at unpalatably high temperatures. I'd much rather do a local pickup, but I live in freaking Connecticut now and I know that often might as well be Mars for anyone not already in this part of the country.
So... yeah. Just not sure how to do this thing.
Sean Fahey
May 30, 2013, 2:55:11 PM5/30/13
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On Thursday, May 30, 2013 7:13:19 AM UTC-5, N.N. Thayer wrote:
> - Either the covers on the 16K memory blocks are missing, or they weren't there in the first place - you can see the wiring that's underneath.
Just FYI - when I was kid working the bench at the Apple dealer back in the day, I saw more than a few II machines come in from Apple directly, missing the block covers. From my perspective, it doesn't effect value at all.
> - Either the covers on the 16K memory blocks are missing, or they weren't there in the first place - you can see the wiring that's underneath.
Sean Fahey
May 31, 2013, 9:24:30 AM5/31/13
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On Thursday, May 30, 2013 7:13:19 AM UTC-5, N.N. Thayer wrote:
> - Either the covers on the 16K memory blocks are missing, or they weren't there in the first place - you can see the wiring that's underneath.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Early-Apple-II-Computer-16k-Ram-Configuration-Blocks-Apple-2-/370825945527
A2S1-1337
Jun 1, 2013, 5:16:16 PM6/1/13
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Nice Apple II.
The curious thing are the dark green slots. I also own a Revision 0
with dark green slots. Its serial number is in the 3k range.
Does someone know when Apple changed from light green to dark green
slots on Revision 0 boards?
Thanks
C.
The curious thing are the dark green slots. I also own a Revision 0
with dark green slots. Its serial number is in the 3k range.
Does someone know when Apple changed from light green to dark green
slots on Revision 0 boards?
Thanks
C.
Steven Hirsch
Jun 1, 2013, 6:44:39 PM6/1/13
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You're the only other person I've "talked" to with a unit near as old. Does
yours have a little metal mini-toggle on the power supply? I'd like to know
when they switched from that to the plastic rocker switch.
Steve
A2S1-1337
Jun 1, 2013, 11:23:49 PM6/1/13
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"nickname" here.
Anyway, mine don't have the first power supply with the metal toggle
switch.
According to the link bellow, they switched to the rocker switch after
serial 600.
http://www.applefritter.com/content/apple-ii-pre-plus-sale-discussions
However I doubt it because this week I saw a revision 0 on eBay with
toggle switch and the board's serial was 1351.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Apple-II-Motherboard-w-48K-RAM-Power-Supply-Bottom-Chassis-/400495658541
Cauã
Steven Hirsch
Jun 2, 2013, 9:03:35 AM6/2/13
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On 06/01/2013 11:23 PM, A2S1-1337 wrote:
> On Jun 1, 7:44 pm, Steven Hirsch <snhir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You're the only other person I've "talked" to with a unit near as old. Does
>> yours have a little metal mini-toggle on the power supply? I'd like to know
>> when they switched from that to the plastic rocker switch.
> On Jun 1, 7:44 pm, Steven Hirsch <snhir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You're the only other person I've "talked" to with a unit near as old. Does
>> yours have a little metal mini-toggle on the power supply? I'd like to know
>> when they switched from that to the plastic rocker switch.
> According to the link bellow, they switched to the rocker switch after
> serial 600.
>
> http://www.applefritter.com/content/apple-ii-pre-plus-sale-discussions
>
> However I doubt it because this week I saw a revision 0 on eBay with
> toggle switch and the board's serial was 1351.
I agree. My motherboard # is 1478. Never understood the relationship (if
> serial 600.
>
> http://www.applefritter.com/content/apple-ii-pre-plus-sale-discussions
>
> However I doubt it because this week I saw a revision 0 on eBay with
> toggle switch and the board's serial was 1351.
any) between board serial number and unit serial number. Seems like only a
loose correlation.
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Apple-II-Motherboard-w-48K-RAM-Power-Supply-Bottom-Chassis-/400495658541
Never saw that one. $3000+ for a bottom pan, power supply and motherboard? Yow.
Steve
A2S1-1337
Jun 2, 2013, 1:13:18 PM6/2/13
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> Never understood the relationship (if
> any) between board serial number and unit serial number. Seems like only a
> loose correlation.
>
power supply, Apple sold a few loose boards.
And these boards were sold till the end of revision 0 production AFIK.
That's why the motherboard's and case's serial doesn't match.
Cauã
achim...@googlemail.com
Dec 8, 2016, 4:36:59 PM12/8/16
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Your Apple II Rev 0 is still for sale?
Bye,
Achim
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