Prosel source files

[A2CPM]

Hi, y'all!

Did the source files for the modules comprising Prosel become
available after the passing of Glen Bredon? I'd like to add some
features to "MR.FIXIT".

Willi

[Antoine Vignau]

Yes, Willi, I think so. See below.
Antoine

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Having spent a very plesant and wonderful full day with Anne Bredon at
her home
on Sunday, August 13, 2000, we both went through everything of Glen
Bredonπs
Apple II platform and Machintosh platform programs - including Glenπs
entire
photo digitized graphic CD collection.

Anne has given me all of his master disks - with their source codes,
backups,
all of his media storage device items, his hard drive with his Mac G3
and all of
his photo digitized graphic CDπs for me to sort, verify, archive and
upload them
all online for public access and unrestricted use. This is my
announcement to
inform the public that Itπs all been released into the public domain
by Anne
Bredon at me request.

With respect to the Apple II platform programs - there is a very large
number
with many versions and the source codes for each, which requires media
content
and file varification, archiving and uploading to online sites for the
publics
access.

This collective consist of a massive number of disks, media storage
devices and
CDπs. Attempting to do this myself - will take a long time - with
many weeks
of work involved. If there is anybody willing and able to help me
with this
project
- that lives in the San Fransicso bay area, who can come to my home to
assist
in this project, please contact me by email, as promptly as possible.
Anne
Bredonπs
official email to me announcing the release of it all into the public
domain is

included below with full headers. I also have a hand written letter
to this
effect
from Anne Bredon.


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I, Anne Bredon, heir to Glen E. Bredon, hereby release all of Glen E.
Bredonπs
Apple software, source codes and graphics into the public domain at
the request
of Charles T. Turley.


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I look forward to your reply and any help you care to offer with this
project -
in sorting it all out by versions, varifying the disks, files, media
storage
devices and photo CDπs - in order to archive and upload it all online
for public
access.

Cheers,
Tom

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[Antoine Vignau]

Available at http://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/public/glenbredon_prosel_sourcecode_documentation.zip

Antoine

[A2CPM]

Hi!

On Nov 15, 11:03 am, Antoine wrote:
> Available at http://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/public/glenbredon_prosel_sourcecode_docume...

Thank you!!! However, the source for "MR.FIXIT" is for the GS/OS
version. Unless I made too cursory a check, all the source in the
archive is for Prosel-16.

Willi

[Antoine Vignau]

On 15 nov, 18:17, A2CPM <a...@wilserv.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Nov 15, 11:03 am, Antoine wrote:
>

> > Available athttp://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/public/glenbredon_prosel_sourcecode_docume...

>
>     Thank you!!!  However, the source for "MR.FIXIT" is for the GS/OS
> version.  Unless I made too cursory a check, all the source in the
> archive is for Prosel-16.
>
> Willi

Oops, I didn't check that, I'll have a look at what I have,
Antoine

[Antoine Vignau]

Just checked, I don't have Prosel's 8-bit version, sorry.
Antoine

[Steven Hirsch]

On 11/15/2011 01:35 PM, Antoine Vignau wrote:
> Just checked, I don't have Prosel's 8-bit version, sorry.
> Antoine

All the 8-bit stuff is MIA. There have been a number of things I would've
liked to have fixed over the years, but I think it's all gone for good.

[Antoine Vignau]

What is the meaning of the MIA acronym? I suppose it is more negative
than positive...
av

[The Wizard of Oz]

M.I.A. = Missing In Action.

Later
Mike

[Antoine Vignau]

Thanks, Mike, for the acronym.

I've disassembled Mr. Fixit today and need to ensure the assembled but
uncommented source code behaves the same way as the original program.
It can be really destructive :-)

It that works well, I'll post a disk image on brutaldeluxe.fr and some
may play with it. Merlin (from Glen Bredon) is mandatory, as usual...

Antoine

[A2CPM]

Hi!

On Nov 16, 1:27 pm, Antoine wrote:
> I've disassembled Mr. Fixit today and need to ensure the assembled but
> uncommented source code behaves the same way as the original program.
> It can be really destructive :-)
> It that works well, I'll post a disk image on brutaldeluxe.fr and some
> may play with it. Merlin (from Glen Bredon) is mandatory, as usual...

I, too, have disassembled "MR.FIXIT". The source I've created,
when assembled, matches the executable. I'm in the process of
examining the generated source in an attempt to determine when the 8
bit immediate operands of load instructions are actually half of 16
bit memory addresses.

I dislike Merlin so "my" source is for the Kyan assembler.

Willi

[Antoine Vignau]

Good news. I stop my work on it then.
av

[Michael J. Mahon]

Antoine Vignau wrote:
> Good news. I stop my work on it then.
> av

If you don't mind, I'd still appreciate a Merlin source file. ;-)

-michael

NadaNet 3.1 for Apple II parallel computing!
Home page: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon/

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."

[Michael J. Mahon]

Saint Isidore - Patron Saint of the Internet <tada...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Everything I got from Glen Bredons widow (Anne) can be found
> here
>
> http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/USA2WUG/Glen.Bredon.In.Memoriam/
>
> PD notice is in the directory (last file)
> It's all public domain
> Sincerely
> Tom

Since her letter releases all the source as well, is there a way to make
all of that available too?

-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon

[A2CPM]

Hi!

On Nov 17, 1:05 am, Michael wrote:
> If you don't mind, I'd still appreciate a Merlin source file.  ;-)

I need to write a program to convert Kyan assembler source files
to Merlin assembler source files...

Willi

[Antoine Vignau]

My reviewed Merlin disassembly can be downloaded at
http://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/public/mrfixit/ (SHK and ZIP archives are
available)

Antoine

[Michael J. Mahon]

Thanks very much, Antoine, for making this available!

[A2CPM]

Hi, y'all!

On Nov 20, 7:04 pm, Michael wrote:
> Thanks very much, Antoine, for making this available!

Hopefully, Tom will find the REAL source and make the efforts of
Antoine and myself superfluous. In the meantime, I've taken my
disassembly much further than Antoine has, in an effort to make it as
close as possible to the available 16 bit source. Comparable snippets
are below my signature.

Willi

*=============================================
Snippet from Antoine's disassembly:
L4159 DA L418D
DA L4194
DA L41A3
DA L41B2
DA L41BD
DA L41CB
DA L41D8
DA L41DD
DA L41EB
DA L41FD
DA L4214
DA L4224
DA L4235
DA L4239
DA L423D
L4177 DA L424F
DA L4261
DA L4270
DA L4280
DA L4295
DA L42AA
DA L42BB
DA L42CD
DA L42E4
DA L42E9
DA L42F3

L418D ASC "Header"0D
L4194 ASC "Parent pointer"00
L41A3 ASC "Backwards link"00
L41B2 ASC "Block free"00
L41BD ASC "Bad file name"00
L41CB ASC "Entry length"00
L41D8 ASC "File"
ASC 'V'
L41DD ASC "Entries/block"00
L41EB ASC "Incomplete delete"00
L41FD ASC "Directory storage type"00
L4214 ASC "Not a directory"00
L4224 ASC "File block count"00
L4235 ASC "Cre"0F
L4239 ASC "Cre"1D
L423D ASC "Modification date"00
L424F ASC "Modification time"00
L4261 ASC "Stack overflow"00
L4270 ASC " <-Block in use"00
L4280 ASC "Block # out of range"00
L4295 ASC "Unknown storage type"00
L42AA ASC "Can't read index"
ASC 'N'
L42BB ASC "Can't read master"
ASC '='
L42CD ASC "Can't handle directory"
ASC '+'
L42E4 ASC "File"00
L42E9 ASC "Directory"00
L42F3 ASC "Index block"00
*=============================================
Snippet from my disassembly:
;
;
;
ERRADR
ER_HEAD DW head
ER_PAR DW parent
ER_LINK DW link
ER_ULOK DW unlock ; ER_UNLOCK
ER_BADN DW badname ; ER_BADNAM
ER_LEN DW length ; ER_LENGTH
ER_FCNT DW ficnt ; ER_FICNT
ER_CNT DW count ; ER_COUNT
ER_DEL DW del
ER_DIRT DW dirtyp ; ER_DIRTYP
ER_FILT DW filtyp ; ER_FILTYP
ER_BLKC DW blkcntm ; ER_BLKCNT
ER_CRED DW credate
ER_CRET DW cretime
ER_MODD DW moddate
ER_MODT DW modtime
ER_STAK DW stack ; ER_STACK
ER_USED DW usedm
ER_BLOK DW block ; ER_BLOCK
ER_STYP DW unktyp ; ER_STOTYP
ER_INDX DW indexm ; ER_INDEX
ER_MAST DW master ; ER_MASTER
ER_BADD DW baddir ; ER_BADDIR
NOCOUNT
ER_FSKP DW filskip ; ER_FILSKP
ER_DISK DW dirskip ; ER_DIRSKP
ER_BSKP DW ndex ; ER_BLKSKP
;
;
;
head ASC 'Header'
DB pointer-head
parent ASC 'Parent'
pointer ASC ' pointer'
DB 0
;
link ASC 'Backwards link'
DB 0
;
unlock ASC 'Block free'
DB 0
;
badname ASC 'Bad file name'
DB 0
;
length ASC 'Entry length'
DB 0
;
ficnt ASC 'File'
DB cnt-ficnt
;
count ASC 'Entries/block'
DB 0
;
del ASC 'Incomplete delete'
DB 0
;
dirtyp ASC 'Directory storage type'
DB 0
;
filtyp ASC 'Not a directory'
DB 0
;
blkcntm ASC 'File block'
cnt ASC ' count'
DB 0
;
credate ASC 'Cre'
DB date-credate
cretime ASC 'Cre'
DB time-cretime
moddate ASC 'Modific'
date ASC 'ation date'
DB 0
;
modtime ASC 'Modific'
time ASC 'ation time'
DB 0
;
stack ASC 'Stack overflow'
DB 0
;
usedm ASC ' <-Block in use'
DB 0
;
block ASC 'Block # out of range'
DB 0
;
unktyp ASC 'Unknown storage type'
DB 0
;
indexm ASC 'Can''t read index'
DB blk-indexm
master ASC 'Can''t read master'
DB blk-master
baddir ASC 'Can''t handle directory'
DB blk-baddir
filskip ASC 'File'
DB 0
;
dirskip ASC 'Directory'
DB 0
;
ndex ASC 'Index'
blk ASC ' block'
DB 0

[Geoff Body]

the source for MR FIXIT appears to in the file

http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/USA2WUG/Glen.Bredon.In.Memoriam/A2.Software/PROSEL.BXY


Geoff

[Antoine Vignau]

On 22 nov, 21:16, Geoff Body <gbo...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> the source for MR FIXIT appears to in the file
>

> http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/USA2WUG/Glen.Bredon.In.Memoriam/A2.Soft...
>
> Geoff

Thanks, Geoff, but...
...this is the 16-bit version, not the 8-bit version of ProSel we are
discussing about.

Antoine