Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Apple Panic

393 views
Skip to first unread message

D Finnigan

unread,
Jun 8, 2013, 7:51:40 PM6/8/13
to
Anyone know when this game was released and who the author is?

David Schmidt

unread,
Jun 8, 2013, 8:43:33 PM6/8/13
to
On 6/8/2013 7:51 PM, D Finnigan wrote:
> Anyone know when this game was released and who the author is?

What, is Wikipedia _that_ unreliable?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Panic

Steve Nickolas

unread,
Jun 8, 2013, 9:51:53 PM6/8/13
to
The name in the title screen doesn't match some names in the code...

-uso.

Tempest

unread,
Jun 8, 2013, 11:43:16 PM6/8/13
to
I can fire up my copy tomorrow, but I thought it was Olaf Lubeck.

qkumba

unread,
Jun 9, 2013, 12:11:44 AM6/9/13
to
> The name in the title screen doesn't match some names in the code...

T. Nagawa & S. Beppu, according to the code on the disk.
According to the book "High Score", Ben Serki is the author of the Atari version.
I suppose that somehow his name got put into the Apple version title screen by mistake.

bloomer_au

unread,
Jun 9, 2013, 2:46:42 AM6/9/13
to
I have this game in its original Broderbund paper packaging, which presumably was in turn in a ziplock bag, but I'm not sure. My dad bought it. Anyway, neither the disk nor the paper packet have a date or author. I haven't booted the disk itself as it will need a thorough check/clean before I dare put it in my 1 working 5.25 drive.

- Wade

Paul Hagstrom

unread,
Jun 10, 2013, 2:57:38 AM6/10/13
to
Just because I could: here's a picture of the packaging and disk with a
link to a scan of the folder, there is indeed no author information on
it whatsoever. I have yet to boot the disk because I'd like to try to
create a faithful copy first with protection intact. The disk however
looks visually to be in good shape.

https://twitter.com/yesterbits/status/343979542546882560/photo/1

Antoine Vignau

unread,
Jun 10, 2013, 12:12:46 PM6/10/13
to
Hello,
Just realized that I cracked Apple Panic last October @ http://www.hackzapple.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=659

...and the disk image @ http://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/crack/APPLEPANIC.DSK

In the thread of the crack, we had that discussion about the author of the game.

LoGo

D Finnigan

unread,
Jun 17, 2013, 3:58:26 PM6/17/13
to
I've got a VHS cassette that is an hour of video output from a II Plus,
showing a beta version of Apple Panic.

http://macgui.com/gallery/showphoto.php?pic_id=1981

The programmer is one Eric de Tocqueville


--
]DF$
Apple II Book: http://macgui.com/newa2guide/
Usenet: http://macgui.com/usenet/ <-- get posts by email!
Apple II Web & Blog hosting: http://a2hq.com/

bloomer_au

unread,
Jun 18, 2013, 2:34:35 AM6/18/13
to
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:58:26 AM UTC+10, D Finnigan wrote:

> I've got a VHS cassette that is an hour of video output from a II Plus,
>
> showing a beta version of Apple Panic.

Where on earth did you get that?! And can we watch the video someplace yet?

Greedily yours,

- Wade

D Finnigan

unread,
Jun 18, 2013, 4:46:52 PM6/18/13
to
It came over from France; it's due to good storage that it has lasted this
long. The man who recorded it sent it to me; he is Larry M Keeran who used
to work for Apple Service at ISU in Bloomington, IL. It is direct video
output of an Apple II Plus system there at ISU. It's an hour long. Most of
it is Monitor listings of the machine code, showing Eric de Tocqueville
modifying his machine code and saving it to disk.

The video isn't online yet. I want to get some more details about what
exactly it's showing, ie, how it relates to the Apple Panic that we all know
today. More specifically, I want to figure out WHEN it was made, or at least
the year.

D Finnigan

unread,
Jun 18, 2013, 4:59:18 PM6/18/13
to
Here are three more screenshots pulled from the QuickTime movie:

Disk catalog
http://macgui.com/gallery/showphoto.php?pic_id=1982
(he's in the process of BSAVE'ing P127)

Game instructions
http://macgui.com/gallery/showphoto.php?pic_id=1983

Disassembly
http://macgui.com/gallery/showphoto.php?pic_id=1984
(he never once uses an assembler in this movie)

bloomer_au

unread,
Jun 18, 2013, 10:31:27 PM6/18/13
to
Cool. Thanks for the info.

- Wade

D Finnigan

unread,
Jun 19, 2013, 7:21:10 PM6/19/13
to
D Finnigan <dog...@macgui.com> wrote:
> The video isn't online yet. I want to get some more details about what
> exactly it's showing, ie, how it relates to the Apple Panic that we all know
> today. More specifically, I want to figure out WHEN it was made, or at least
> the year.

Got the date narrowed down to probably 1981-1983.

Apple2Games

unread,
Jun 19, 2013, 9:30:28 PM6/19/13
to
It had to be 1981. I know this becuase my father used to play that game like crazy and we lived in NY. We moved to Ohio at the end of 1982. Yeah... TMI

Also Olaf Lubeck did the IBM PC port.

D Finnigan

unread,
Jun 19, 2013, 10:18:17 PM6/19/13
to
Apple2Games wrote:
> It had to be 1981. I know this becuase my father used to play that game
> like crazy and we lived in NY. We moved to Ohio at the end of 1982.
> Yeah... TMI
>

What's not clear is whether Eric de Tocqueville programmed this game that
would eventually become Apple Panic like we know it today, or whether he was
just programming his own clone game based on Apple Panic.

bry...@yahoo.com

unread,
Jun 20, 2013, 10:48:48 PM6/20/13
to
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:18:17 PM UTC-7, D Finnigan wrote:
> Apple2Games wrote:
>
> > It had to be 1981. I know this becuase my father used to play that game
>
> > like crazy and we lived in NY. We moved to Ohio at the end of 1982.
>
> > Yeah... TMI
>
> >
>
>
>
> What's not clear is whether Eric de Tocqueville programmed this game that
>
> would eventually become Apple Panic like we know it today, or whether he was
>
> just programming his own clone game based on Apple Panic.
>
>


If you boot the original Apple Panic disk for Apple II, it takes you to the Broderbund title page with the date and programmer:
"02-JUN-1981"
"COPYRIGHT BY COSMOS-OKAYAMA"
"PROGRAMMED BY BEN SERKI"

Steve Nickolas

unread,
Jun 20, 2013, 11:44:05 PM6/20/13
to
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, bry...@yahoo.com wrote:

> If you boot the original Apple Panic disk for Apple II, it takes you to
> the Broderbund title page with the date and programmer:
> "02-JUN-1981"
> "COPYRIGHT BY COSMOS-OKAYAMA"
> "PROGRAMMED BY BEN SERKI"
>

You missed the post where it was said if you look at the disk image itself
you find strings that give other programmer names.

-uso.
Message has been deleted

steve.d...@gmail.com

unread,
Jul 30, 2013, 10:19:55 AM7/30/13
to
If you beat the Apple IIc version of the game (level with 8 masks), the game crashes (as they didn't code additional levels) and displays:

START ADDRESS = $7000

PROGRAMED BY T.NAGAWA
S.BEPPU

(OKAYAMA UNIVERSITY OF SCIENCE)


*S_ <- Flashing cursor

So, it appears the code was stolen from these two (that was typical of the 80's - take someone else's code, add a few tweaks and put your name on it).


0 new messages