Early apple employees Dick and Cliff Huston selling off collection
Mike Maginnis
auctions. Most of this stuff is way out of my budget, but maybe
someone here might be interested.
Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with these listing or the sellers.
http://shop.ebay.com/earlyapple/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340
More info about the auctions here:
http://www.cultofmac.com/early-apple-employees-auction-killer-collectibles/
- Mike
dagz
Mike Maginnis
> Too bad we can't get that ProDOS listing into the public domain :(
That was my thought, too...
- Mike
Slor
wrote in
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> This showed up in the classiccmp list today. Yeah, they're eBay
> auctions. Most of this stuff is way out of my budget, but maybe
> someone here might be interested.
>
Wow. I'm not nearly into Apple stuff as much as I am other platforms, but
I know "wow" when I see it...
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D Finnigan
> Despite all prevention efforts, Mike Maginnis <mmag...@gmail.com>
> wrote in
> news:76bc7c94-3b91-4ac6...@a18g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
>
>> This showed up in the classiccmp list today. Yeah, they're eBay
>> auctions. Most of this stuff is way out of my budget, but maybe
>> someone here might be interested.
>>
>
> Wow. I'm not nearly into Apple stuff as much as I am other platforms, but
> I know "wow" when I see it...
>
Yeah, there is some pretty interesting stuff there. I suppose that Apple
Employees always have the best "stuff."
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Toinet
I wrote to the seller about the limited shipping to the USA only,
there are a couple of items I would have liked to cherish at home,
antoine
Mike Maginnis
Good luck with that, Antoine. Maybe you could have it shipped to
someone's address here in the States and then forwarded to you. I
wish I had the money for the ProDOS listing, myself...
- Mike
Toinet
I already use Olivier's company address in the USA from time to time
and a kind person already offered such a possibility. I used the past
form in my previous message, I don't know why. A sort of anticipation
probably :-)
I have to admit that the Apple I cassettes interest me but 5k per item
(not counting the MB itself) is, hum, stupid...
antoine
Toinet
as a forwarding agent for international customers of good
standing... This is our first time selling on ebay (and maybe our only
time) and we did not feel confident that we could
properly handle international shipping issues. [..]"
<grin * antoine * grin>
MdntTrain
> This showed up in the classiccmp list today. Yeah, they're eBay
> auctions. Most of this stuff is way out of my budget, but maybe
> someone here might be interested.
>
> Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with these listing or the sellers.
>
>
> More info about the auctions here:
>
>
> - Mike
Have you all ever seen Antiques Roadshow, where old items are
appraised by experts (usually auctioneers with other houses) on TV?
Are Apple engineering prototype boards and such really the kind of
stuff that's going to be showing up on such shows 20, 50, 100 years
from now? I just don't know that it qualifies as such. A PCB will
never be like a Tiffany lamp to the general population, although it
might be better to some of us.
jS
Toinet
He, eh! good explanation and thought.
I personally like antiques (old furniture, *real* old chinese ancestor
portraits) and things that predate the 19th century which will become
rare and will probably be liked by other *humans* - I own old (really
old stuff) and I like them because of their history and smell (ah the
smell) and Im pretty sure we will like PCBs, collect (worship ?) them
because of their history.
According to me, that is the history linked to the item (or the item's
history) that is important (to me :-)
That is the kind of things I like with the brothers' mouse: a change
in history, oh, a change in IT history and I agree with you, that is
change for 1% of us, the other 99% see that as a tool, not as what it
has brought to the others.
I'm not an engineer and I wish I had seen/lived what guys like MJM or
the Apple 1 brothers had seen/lived
antoine
Toinet
Auction is open (by myself) for the ProDOS listing, I wish I could
read the interesting comments missing in the 2.0.1 source code :-)
antoine
D Finnigan
>
> Auction is open (by myself) for the ProDOS listing, I wish I could
> read the interesting comments missing in the 2.0.1 source code :-)
>
Yep, looks like with exception of the ProDOS source, none of the "premium"
items have bids yet, which is understandable. Though I don't see any
drawback to one bidding early if one indeed has the finances. One should
expect the competition to be minimal.
Of course, the "grab bag" items already have some bids:
Apple Newton Prototype - 2 bids; $102.50
Red Manual & Blue Manual - 5 bids; $66,00
Apple Employee Telephone Directory 12/83 - 3 bids; $46.00
I wouldn't mind having a copy of the Blue manual. It seems to be even rarer
than the Red manual, from my personal experiences.
Toinet
I won the ProDOS source code listing. And the drive I was bidding on
at $3500 ended at $5300 *sigh*
What is interesting is that one guy has purchased all the HW parts:
n***d (1410) - If not a pro buying for others, that n**d will keep the
collection in one place, unless the wish to sell them at a higher
price is a possibility :-)
Do you know who is behind n**d?
antoine
Steven Hirsch
> What is interesting is that one guy has purchased all the HW parts:
> n***d (1410) - If not a pro buying for others, that n**d will keep the
> collection in one place, unless the wish to sell them at a higher
> price is a possibility :-)
>
> Do you know who is behind n**d?
Obviously someone with too much extra money on their hands...
Bill Garber
"Toinet" <antoine...@laposte.net> wrote in message news:26a3c384-3af8-45be...@d37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
Those IDs are anonymous, and random. They don't show up as 'n***d'
for anyone else, and may show up differently for you today as well.
Bill
rhohler
> than the Red manual, from my personal experiences.
>
seem to locate it. I can find the RedBook but no Blue manual.
Rick
D Finnigan
I too have looked, but haven't found it.
D Finnigan
> Part of the items were sold yesterday, let's say this morning for me.
> I won the ProDOS source code listing. And the drive I was bidding on
> at $3500 ended at $5300 *sigh*
>
Good job. :-) This is the part where we mob you for Xerox copies. :-P
> What is interesting is that one guy has purchased all the HW parts:
> n***d (1410) - If not a pro buying for others, that n**d will keep the
> collection in one place, unless the wish to sell them at a higher
> price is a possibility :-)
>
Maybe he was curious to see whether they still worked.
Toinet
> Toinet wrote:
> > Part of the items were sold yesterday, let's say this morning for me.
> > I won the ProDOS source code listing. And the drive I was bidding on
> > at $3500 ended at $5300 *sigh*
>
> Good job. :-) This is the part where we mob you for Xerox copies. :-P
>
"mob" ???? I miss the meaning, sorry. mobilize?
Xerox copies, xerox copies! When you see I've just ended the
AppleWorks GS documentation at a poor 200 DPI and that my multi-
function printer decided of the page size by itself, imagine my face
after 380 pages :-( Imagine my face after the next forced 380 A4
pages :-((
I just hope Alex will remain motivated and publish those because after
all he did for the IIgs, some people complained about what he offered
to the community, I believe this is unfair.
> > What is interesting is that one guy has purchased all the HW parts:
> > n***d (1410) - If not a pro buying for others, that n**d will keep the
> > collection in one place, unless the wish to sell them at a higher
> > price is a possibility :-)
>
> Maybe he was curious to see whether they still worked.
You know, I would have dreamed to crack a DOS 3.2 software with the
drive and the prototype controller board :-) Let's see what I can do
with the mouse...
antoine
D Finnigan
> On 23 mar, 20:33, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:
>> Toinet wrote:
>> > Part of the items were sold yesterday, let's say this morning for me.
>> > I won the ProDOS source code listing. And the drive I was bidding on
>> > at $3500 ended at $5300 *sigh*
>>
>> Good job. :-) This is the part where we mob you for Xerox copies. :-P
>>
>
> "mob" ???? I miss the meaning, sorry. mobilize?
No. It means when a crowd of angry people gather around someone.
>
> You know, I would have dreamed to crack a DOS 3.2 software with the
> drive and the prototype controller board :-) Let's see what I can do
> with the mouse...
>
I have a feeling that as long as the wires are still connected, the hardware
probably does still work. I would not want to be the one to find the
detached wires on that Apple III wire-wrap prototype! That was a complete
rat's nest!
Toinet
> Toinet wrote:
> > On 23 mar, 20:33, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:
> >> Toinet wrote:
> >> > Part of the items were sold yesterday, let's say this morning for me.
> >> > I won the ProDOS source code listing. And the drive I was bidding on
> >> > at $3500 ended at $5300 *sigh*
>
> >> Good job. :-) This is the part where we mob you for Xerox copies. :-P
>
> > "mob" ???? I miss the meaning, sorry. mobilize?
>
> No. It means when a crowd of angry people gather around someone.
To do what? Or why are they angry? They are angry and want to kill the
guy because he gave copies? Or they demonstrate? Please forgive my
lack of understanding on that one, I have to admit I am quite lost
despite your tries to explain it to me.
>
>
>
> > You know, I would have dreamed to crack a DOS 3.2 software with the
> > drive and the prototype controller board :-) Let's see what I can do
> > with the mouse...
>
> I have a feeling that as long as the wires are still connected, the hardware
> probably does still work. I would not want to be the one to find the
> detached wires on that Apple III wire-wrap prototype! That was a complete
> rat's nest!
>
I agree with you, I wonder how one can follow the wires!
D Finnigan
> On 23 mar, 21:11, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:
>> Toinet wrote:
>> > On 23 mar, 20:33, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:
>> >> Toinet wrote:
>> >> > Part of the items were sold yesterday, let's say this morning for
>> >> > me.
>> >> > I won the ProDOS source code listing. And the drive I was bidding on
>> >> > at $3500 ended at $5300 *sigh*
>>
>> >> Good job. :-) This is the part where we mob you for Xerox copies. :-P
>>
>> > "mob" ???? I miss the meaning, sorry. mobilize?
>>
>> No. It means when a crowd of angry people gather around someone.
>
> To do what? Or why are they angry? They are angry and want to kill the
> guy because he gave copies? Or they demonstrate? Please forgive my
> lack of understanding on that one, I have to admit I am quite lost
> despite your tries to explain it to me.
>
In this case, I was using it as a joke, so no one is actually mad. However,
the joke would be that we are mad at you for having won the copies of the
ProDOS source, so we have come to mob you and take them.
sfahey
Re: Re: Early apple employees Dick and Cliff Huston selling off collection
By: dog_cow to comp.sys.apple2 on Tue Mar 23 2010 07:27 pm
> > Is the Blue manual available anywhere on the net as a PDF? I cannot
> > seem to locate it. I can find the RedBook but no Blue manual.
> >
>
> I too have looked, but haven't found it.
Ugh, I'm loath to do it... but I guess I could scan it.
Sean Fahey
www.a2central.com
bbs.a2central.com
Toinet
Okkkkkkkkeeeeeyyyyyyyyyy dddddoooooooooooooooooookkkkeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyy.
That is what I imagined in a first thought but, as English/American,
is a really nice/imaged/poetry language, there could have been other
ways of interpreting your sentence.
Please forgive me, I do my best but I am sometimes, let's say...
lost :-) Especially with tdiaz' sentences :-)
antoine
A2Aviator
put undue stress on the binding.
If it were comb bound I'd do it. .. for that matter, it would probably
have been done.
Toinet
Unless you have 2 copies of it ;-) That is what I did the scan of the
AppleWorks GS manuals.
I have to admit I was not aware of the blue manual, despite I own a
great copy of the red one.
antoine
schmidtd
wrote:
> To: dog_cow
> Re: Re: Early apple employees Dick and Cliff Huston selling off collection
> By: dog_cow to comp.sys.apple2 on Tue Mar 23 2010 07:27 pm
> > > Is the Blue manual available anywhere on the net as a PDF? I cannot
> > > seem to locate it. I can find the RedBook but no Blue manual.
> >
> > I too have looked, but haven't found it.
>
> Ugh, I'm loath to do it... but I guess I could scan it.
What _is_ it? Is it a Jef Raskin Integer BASIC tutorial?
Toinet
No. The Applesoft tutorial with a blue cover.
av
Michael J. Mahon
That's funny, I thought that it meant a bunch of people would
start pestering him for copies...
-michael
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> I have no compelling desire to scan the Blue Book .. as doing so would
> put undue stress on the binding.
If you do it photographically, you only have to open it 90 degrees. ;-)
rhohler
Another person with too much extra money bought the Apple I for
$42,766. Amazing! The economy must be doing good somewhere. :)
Heck, even the Disk II Prototype card sold for $15,000.
Rick
Toinet
Same profile as the other items won the Apple 1 auction.
I will now be obliged to write a 3-button mouse driver for ProDOS
1.0 :-)
antoine
Michael J. Mahon
It's a good investment--a prime specimen bought below typical
market price.
Many fortunes were made following the Great Depression, since valuable
assets were sold for pennies on the dollar.
"It's an ill wind that blows nobody good."
Steven Hirsch
>> Another person with too much extra money bought the Apple I for
>> $42,766. Amazing! The economy must be doing good somewhere. :)
>
> It's a good investment--a prime specimen bought below typical
> market price.
>
> Many fortunes were made following the Great Depression, since valuable
> assets were sold for pennies on the dollar.
In general, I'd concur with that statement. However, I really think that
amount is just over the top for a piece of equipment with little meaning to
anyone outside the microcomputing world. Certainly I wouldn't put an Apple I
in the same category as, e.g. a piece of fine art or a painting. Or even, for
the musicians among us, a 1958 Cherry Sunburst Gibson Les Paul guitar. FYI:
these have sold for in excess of $500,000.
Steve
Bill Garber
"Steven Hirsch" <snhi...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:h7adnZik-9YAnDfW...@giganews.com...
You mention that the Apple I has its own niche market. But then, your
other examples, fine art and vintage guitars, also have their own niche
markets. So where is the difference in your statement?
A collector is a collector. The person who bought the Apple I for $42,766
isn't necessarily a vintage computerist as we are. They may have merely
seen something that will increase in value and took a chance on that fact.
Bill
Steven Hirsch
> "Steven Hirsch" <snhi...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:h7adnZik-9YAnDfW...@giganews.com...
>> Michael J. Mahon wrote:
>>
>>>> Another person with too much extra money bought the Apple I for
>>>> $42,766. Amazing! The economy must be doing good somewhere. :)
>>> It's a good investment--a prime specimen bought below typical
>>> market price.
>>>
>>> Many fortunes were made following the Great Depression, since valuable
>>> assets were sold for pennies on the dollar.
>> In general, I'd concur with that statement. However, I really think that amount is just over the top for a piece of equipment
>> with little meaning to anyone outside the microcomputing world. Certainly I wouldn't put an Apple I in the same category as, e.g.
>> a piece of fine art or a painting. Or even, for the musicians among us, a 1958 Cherry Sunburst Gibson Les Paul guitar. FYI:
>> these have sold for in excess of $500,000.
>>
>> Steve
>
> You mention that the Apple I has its own niche market. But then, your
> other examples, fine art and vintage guitars, also have their own niche
> markets. So where is the difference in your statement?
Probably none... Just venting. It really torques me to see eBay pushing
prices into the stratosphere. And, no, I do not sell computer gear on eBay
:-). Anything I've parted with has been privately arranged.
Michael J. Mahon
Well, to be accurate, it's not eBay pushing prices--it's the larger
market exposure that eBay provides to buyers and sellers.
It's harder to find bargains in a more efficient market. ;-)
john
> A collector is a collector. The person who bought the Apple I for
> $42,766 isn't necessarily a vintage computerist as we are. They may have
> merely seen something that will increase in value and took a chance on
> that fact.
>
> Bill
I respect what the Apple I was. but the guy must have been nuts to pay
$42grand for an old circuit board! but that is how auction sites work,
so I guess he was just as nuts and anyone else with that much extra $$$
laying around! Sounds like there may have been some phoney bidders in
there to drive up the price!
John
Mike Spurgeon
> I respect what the Apple I was. but the guy must have been nuts to pay
> $42grand for an old circuit board! but that is how auction sites work,
> so I guess he was just as nuts and anyone else with that much extra $$$
> laying around! Sounds like there may have been some phoney bidders in
> there to drive up the price!
How so, since they have in the past gone for $50,000?
It's not like they are still being made...
A2Aviator
sicklittlemonkey
> Some things, it's not what it is .. but where it came from.
I reckon. The story that one has is priceless.
Cheers,
Nick.
ict@ccess
vacuum tubes went up for sale and it had the serial # of number 001,
what its worth would be. The Apple I was one of the very first
minitiarized computers that were built, and with a serial # of number
001, I believe the value is justified.
I would like to see this collectors collection of rare things though.
He would have to be a millionaire to throw money around like that. My
first assumptioin would be that, if he is into electronic devices, he
must have a heck of a collection.
Rob