Printing from IIgs
Greg Andrzejewski
and understand that I should be able to print from my IIgs. The HP only has
a parallel connector so what kind of connections do I need to make on the gs
side? I have a Super Serial Card. Will that work? Can I use the serial port
on the gs with a mini din 8 to DB25 connector, then using a standard printer
cable into the HP? Or do I have to buy one of those Grappler cards? Any help
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Paul R. Santa-Maria
> I have an Apple IIgs and an HP Deskjet 540 printer.
You will need a parallel interface card to use
the IIgs with the 540, unless you can find
one of the serial-to-parallel converters that
were made to solve this problem.
--
Paul R. Santa-Maria
Monroe, Michigan USA
Sandra Warnken
I use an HP deskjet all the time. I just got a Laserwriter 6L. I use
Appleworks GS or GraphicWriter III with Pointless and drivers from
Harmonie to print in True Type fonts. The grappler+ and cable seem to
be the easiest to come by, though there are others you could use. The
Grappler has dip switches but the software overrides them.
Sandy Warnken
Lyle Syverson
the HP DeskJets with the Apple II's. Go to http://lamp.a2central.com/
and select one of the files named TLMP9910
Lyle Syverson
Joe Kohn
> I use an HP deskjet all the time. I just got a Laserwriter 6L. I use
> Appleworks GS or GraphicWriter III with Pointless and drivers from
> Harmonie to print in True Type fonts.
Harmonie is a 3rd party software package that includes GS/OS Printer
Drivers for DeskJet (and other high quality) printers. If you ever want to
print anything with the DeskJet from GS/OS, you will need to purchase
Harmonie.
Although Pointless isn't required, without it, you'll be limited to using
the only types of fonts that GS/OS knows about: bit-mapped fonts. With
those, you'll suffer a bad case of "the jaggies." So, Pointless is yet
another 3rd party software package that adds something to GS/OS; it allows
you to use True Type fonts.
So, the software combo of Harmonie/Pointless will allow you to get the
most use out of that DeskJet. And, again, Pointless is optional, but
Harmonie is a requirement. Without it, you can't use the DeskJet with
GS/OS-based software.
More information about both Harmonie and Pointless can be found
at: http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko
Additionally, both programs can be ordered online, and paid for with a
credit card at: http://order.kagi.com/?zs3
The cost of each program is only $20, and that includes postage.
Joe Kohn
Greg Buchner
Joe Kohn <jo...@NoMoreSpam.net.invalid> wrote:
> So, the software combo of Harmonie/Pointless will allow you to get the
> most use out of that DeskJet. And, again, Pointless is optional, but
> Harmonie is a requirement. Without it, you can't use the DeskJet with
> GS/OS-based software.
I'd have to differ with you on that. Having spent a lot of years on a
GS with Harmonie/Pointless, Pointless is necessary. I did a lot of
things with AWGS and Harmonie/Pointless that people thought was done on
a Mac and Pointless was a major part of that. Being able to grab any
Mac TrueType font and just use it was great.
Greg B.
--
There's just one 2 in my e-mail address, so delete one to e-mail me.
Joe Kohn
>> So, the software combo of Harmonie/Pointless will allow you to get the
>> most use out of that DeskJet. And, again, Pointless is optional, but
>> Harmonie is a requirement. Without it, you can't use the DeskJet with
>> GS/OS-based software.
> I'd have to differ with you on that. Having spent a lot of years on a
> GS with Harmonie/Pointless, Pointless is necessary. I did a lot of
> things with AWGS and Harmonie/Pointless that people thought was done on
> a Mac and Pointless was a major part of that. Being able to grab any
> Mac TrueType font and just use it was great.
Greg - It's hard enough as it is these days to sell a product for the IIGS
that costs $20 (Harmonie), so I was downplaying the expenditure of yet
another $20 for Pointless.
I'm not going to disagree with you. The combo of Pointless and Harmonie
produces beautiful output.
But egads, in 2002, to sell $40 worth of software to a IIGS user is way
beyond my skills as a IIGS software publisher.
Joe Kohn
http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko
Greg Buchner
Joe Kohn <jo...@NoMoreSpam.net.invalid> wrote:
> Greg Buchner <app...@mn.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >> So, the software combo of Harmonie/Pointless will allow you to get the
> >> most use out of that DeskJet. And, again, Pointless is optional, but
> >> Harmonie is a requirement. Without it, you can't use the DeskJet with
> >> GS/OS-based software.
>
> > I'd have to differ with you on that. Having spent a lot of years on a
> > GS with Harmonie/Pointless, Pointless is necessary. I did a lot of
> > things with AWGS and Harmonie/Pointless that people thought was done on
> > a Mac and Pointless was a major part of that. Being able to grab any
> > Mac TrueType font and just use it was great.
>
> Greg - It's hard enough as it is these days to sell a product for the IIGS
> that costs $20 (Harmonie), so I was downplaying the expenditure of yet
> another $20 for Pointless.
Well, I guess that's true...trying t. It's not like I've needed to buy
any Apple Ii software for a long time. Lately just end up picking up
occasional pieces of hardware that usually have the software with them
if it's needed...or can easily find the software online.
> I'm not going to disagree with you. The combo of Pointless and Harmonie
> produces beautiful output.
>
> But egads, in 2002, to sell $40 worth of software to a IIGS user is way
> beyond my skills as a IIGS software publisher.
I think I had pretty much ended up with all of the software I
wanted/needed by the time you took over. There was a Harmonie update
that I found out about after you picked it up, but it didn't apply to
the Deskjet 500 I was using at the time.
Good luck on getting some more copied sold though...
Joe
> I think I had pretty much ended up with all of the software I
> wanted/needed by the time you took over. There was a Harmonie update
> that I found out about after you picked it up, but it didn't apply to
> the Deskjet 500 I was using at the time.
That update, already a few years old, added 600 x 300 dpi printing
on those newer DeskJets that support that higher resolution.
That said, my LaserJet supports 300 x 300 dpi, and I still get a
kick out of using it with my IIGS. And, I still think it looks
great!
Thanks, Burger Bill ;-)
Joe Kohn
http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko
Eric Shepherd
Joe Kohn <jo...@NoMoreSpam.net.invalid> wrote:
> But egads, in 2002, to sell $40 worth of software to a IIGS user is way
> beyond my skills as a IIGS software publisher.
Syndicomm's sales have been surprisingly brisk. In the six and a half
months since our new online store went online, we have received 48
orders (not counting orders rejected due to invalid payment information)
via the online store, and almost as many via mail.
The average dollar value of our online orders is $47, with the maximum
being $355. I don't have nearly as good reporting capabilities for
mailed orders; most of them are for lower dollar amounts (averaging
probably about $8).
We don't charge our customers sales tax, although we do pay sales tax to
the government -- we take it off the top of our profits, to save our
customers time and money.
Syndicomm is marginally profitable right now, although this move will
probably change that for a while, due to the added expenses (we've
bought new servers, and we have installation and setup fees for our new
ISP).
Anyway, thought I'd comment, even though it's off-topic. It's possible
to sell Apple II products in this day and age, but it's sure not easy. :)
Eric Shepherd
Owner
Syndicomm
A2MG
can come up with (or came up with, and they are new to it). I just love firing
up those GS's to make the disks and fill the orders.. ;-)
By the way, on-topic, users of AppleWorks "classic" (not the same as AppleWorks
GS) do not need Harmonie or any extra software to print on the IIGS. The
DeskJet drivers are built into AppleWorks v4 and 5, and are available for
AppleWorks 3.0.
Beverly Cadieux
TEXAS II an international newsletter for users of AppleWorks(R) 5.1
Long Hoang
Your best bet is to buy a used working Deskjet that has serial port. I
used a Deskjet+ years ago connected to serial port and using Harmonie
software/driver.
Newer DeskJet models do not have serial port, only parallel.
The original DeskJet, DJ plus, DJ 500, DJ 500C and DJ 550C have
both parallel and serial ports, DJ 510, DJ 520, DJ 560C as well
as DJ 310 have parallel only.
Long Hoang
@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
> Newer DeskJet models do not have serial port, only parallel.
> The original DeskJet, DJ plus, DJ 500, DJ 500C and DJ 550C have
> both parallel and serial ports, DJ 510, DJ 520, DJ 560C as well
> as DJ 310 have parallel only.
Btw, I've serial capable Deskjets such as the 550C model going on Ebay for
as low as $1 to $10.