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Anyone have the Sequential Systems SCSI-2 Driver for the IIgs?

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Polymorph

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Apr 26, 2010, 9:44:27 PM4/26/10
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Hi Guys,

Does anyone have, or know where to get the Apple High Speed SCSI card
driver for the IIgs that provides media control capabilities to SCSI-2
CDROMs? Apparently Sequential Systems sold such a driver around 1998
for a very short time.

This driver is referred to in the FAQs, but I've searched everywhere I
can think of and turned up nothing (both now and a couple of years ago
when I previously looked for this hard to get item).

Any help in finding/saving this software from oblivion would be
greatly appreciated. :-)

Cheers,
Mike

Polymorph

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Apr 27, 2010, 1:08:01 AM4/27/10
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Actually, trawling through the c.s.a2 archives I found that these
drivers were announced on the 15th December 1994.

Here is the announcement made by Jawaid Bazyar (the author of the
driver) in case this jogs anyone's memory:

"Sequential Systems is proud to announce the release of a SCSI-2 CDROM
device driver for the Apple II High Speed SCSI Card.

The device driver allows full use of the features of a SCSI-2 CDROM
drive such as Quality's 'Q-Drive CD' product, and other certified
SCSI-2 CDROM drives. Until now, users of such drives on Apple
SCSI cards were unable to play CD audio discs or use the
CD-audio features of Sequential's discQuest(tm).

The SCSI-2 CDROM driver also comes with a Media Control Toolkit
interface,
so that regular audio CD's can be played with the 'Media Controller'
desk accessory, which offers a CD 'control panel'.

The price of the driver is $24.95, and is available from Sequential
Systems.

(Product name: "SCSI-2 Driver for Apple Hi Speed SCSI card")

Sequential Systems
1200 Diamond Circle
Lafayette, CO 80026

800-759-4549 Sales
800-999-1717 Tech support
303-666-4549 International

Jawaid Bazyar | Like UNIX? Like your Apple IIGS? Then
ask
Procyon, Inc. | me about GNO/ME for the Apple IIgs!
baz...@netcom.com | P.O Box 620334
--Apple II Forever!-- | Littleton, CO 80162-0334 (303)
781-3273"


Hopefully someone out there has this driver? Other posts made to
c.s.a2 in 1999 were also seeking this driver, but by then, no one
seemed to know how to get it any longer... :-(

Whilst not a "critical thing" to have, it certainly fits into the
"nice to have" category.

Cheers,
Mike

Michael J. Mahon

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Apr 27, 2010, 4:48:25 PM4/27/10
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Polymorph wrote:
> On Apr 27, 11:44 am, Polymorph <mike.a.steph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Does anyone have, or know where to get the Apple High Speed SCSI card
>> driver for the IIgs that provides media control capabilities to SCSI-2
>> CDROMs? Apparently Sequential Systems sold such a driver around 1998
>> for a very short time.
>>
>> This driver is referred to in the FAQs, but I've searched everywhere I
>> can think of and turned up nothing (both now and a couple of years ago
>> when I previously looked for this hard to get item).
>>
>> Any help in finding/saving this software from oblivion would be
>> greatly appreciated. :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>

> Whilst not a "critical thing" to have, it certainly fits into the
> "nice to have" category.

Does anyone still play audio CDs? ;-)

-michael

NadaNet 3.0 for Apple II parallel computing!
Home page: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon/

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."

A2Aviator

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Apr 27, 2010, 4:55:31 PM4/27/10
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In the car, the same one is usually in there for months. Thats about
it.

... otherwise, I'm reasonably sure that driver is here somewhere, and
likewise, I've never used any of these drivers, the Apple one has
worked just fine for a great many models of drives that I've attached
over the years.

I can't say I ever played a Red Book audio disc on a IIgs more than
once. Had to try it because it had Apple II Forever on it, back when.

Steven Hirsch

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Apr 27, 2010, 9:18:33 PM4/27/10
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Michael J. Mahon wrote:

> Does anyone still play audio CDs? ;-)


I still play LPs :-)

Michael J. Mahon

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Apr 29, 2010, 7:55:59 PM4/29/10
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Right--the analog approach! ;-)

But (except for some cars) don't most CDs just get ripped and put away?
(Come to think of it, maybe a lot of LPs are "ripped", too. ;-)

Steven

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Apr 29, 2010, 8:02:48 PM4/29/10
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Years ago, in the late 60's I put my LP's on reel to reel and 8 track,
then put them away, much later I put them on cassette and about a year
ago I put them on CD's as well as my iPod and my Mac's. I have LP's
that are in new condition, some still even have the plastic on them.
iTunes sure make it easy.

--
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D Finnigan

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May 1, 2010, 1:37:23 PM5/1/10
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I pulled these two out of the comp.binaries.apple2 archive:

http://www.macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=1857
http://www.macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=1854

--
Mac GUI Vault - A source for retro Apple II and Macintosh
computing.
http://macgui.com/vault/

Steven Hirsch

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May 1, 2010, 2:41:16 PM5/1/10
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D Finnigan wrote:
> Polymorph wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Does anyone have, or know where to get the Apple High Speed SCSI card
>> driver for the IIgs that provides media control capabilities to SCSI-2
>> CDROMs? Apparently Sequential Systems sold such a driver around 1998
>> for a very short time.
>>
>> This driver is referred to in the FAQs, but I've searched everywhere I
>> can think of and turned up nothing (both now and a couple of years ago
>> when I previously looked for this hard to get item).
>>
>> Any help in finding/saving this software from oblivion would be
>> greatly appreciated. :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>>
>
> I pulled these two out of the comp.binaries.apple2 archive:
>
> http://www.macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=1857
> http://www.macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=1854

Thanks, but I cannot figure out a way to download or capture those in a form
that will unpack without CRC errors.

A screen wipe on Linux yields a file with no newlines in it. Saving from
Firefox mangles formatting and it fails CRC check.

Toinet

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May 1, 2010, 3:01:22 PM5/1/10
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Try this alternate address:
http://mirrors.apple2.org.za/apple.cabi.net/Utilities/

There are three files beginning with RF :-)

antoine

D Finnigan

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May 1, 2010, 3:02:13 PM5/1/10
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Steven Hirsch wrote:
>
> Thanks, but I cannot figure out a way to download or capture those in a
> form
> that will unpack without CRC errors.
>
> A screen wipe on Linux yields a file with no newlines in it. Saving from
> Firefox mangles formatting and it fails CRC check.
>

I can send you the raw messages by email if you want.

Steven Hirsch

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May 1, 2010, 3:18:36 PM5/1/10
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D Finnigan wrote:
> Steven Hirsch wrote:
>> Thanks, but I cannot figure out a way to download or capture those in a
>> form
>> that will unpack without CRC errors.
>>
>> A screen wipe on Linux yields a file with no newlines in it. Saving from
>> Firefox mangles formatting and it fails CRC check.
>>
>
> I can send you the raw messages by email if you want.
>

Thanks, but Toinet pointed me to a direct download (thanks to him as well).

D Finnigan

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May 1, 2010, 3:49:12 PM5/1/10
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Well I sent an email to your address, so did you get it?

Geo3

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May 1, 2010, 11:16:45 PM5/1/10
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Hi,
I would try and track down the author. If they were released he would
know. He just might have a copy tucked away somewhere.
That would be Jawaid Bazyar. Should be easy to find.

Polymorph

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May 2, 2010, 8:22:22 AM5/2/10
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To: Polymorph
Polymorph wrote:
> dog_cow wrote:

>> Polymorph wrote:
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> Does anyone have, or know where to get the Apple High Speed SCSI card
>>> driver for the IIgs that provides media control capabilities to SCSI-2
>>> CDROMs? Apparently Sequential Systems sold such a driver around 1998
>>> for a very short time.
>>>
>>> This driver is referred to in the FAQs, but I've searched everywhere I
>>> can think of and turned up nothing (both now and a couple of years ago
>>> when I previously looked for this hard to get item).
>>>
>>> Any help in finding/saving this software from oblivion would be
>>> greatly appreciated. :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>> I pulled these two out of the comp.binaries.apple2 archive:
>>
>> http://www.macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=1857
>> http://www.macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=1854
>>
>
> Thanks, but these drivers are for RAMFast SCSI cards, not the Apple High
> Speed SCSI. They are not interchangeable due to the different card designs.
>
> At least with the source code in the first link, if we can't dig up the
> High Speed SCSI drivers, I might have a crack at implementing a High
> Speed SCSI version. Yet another project on the to-do list. :-)
>
> The Sequential HS SCSI driver search continues...
>
> Cheers,
> Mike

Hold the horses! I just de-BinSCIed the files and on first glance it
does look like there is a HS SCSI driver in there. Hmmmm...

Time to test it out!

I'll post back results.

Thanks,
Mike

Polymorph

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May 2, 2010, 8:03:26 AM5/2/10
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To: dog_cow

dog_cow wrote:
> Polymorph wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Does anyone have, or know where to get the Apple High Speed SCSI card
>> driver for the IIgs that provides media control capabilities to SCSI-2
>> CDROMs? Apparently Sequential Systems sold such a driver around 1998
>> for a very short time.
>>
>> This driver is referred to in the FAQs, but I've searched everywhere I
>> can think of and turned up nothing (both now and a couple of years ago
>> when I previously looked for this hard to get item).
>>
>> Any help in finding/saving this software from oblivion would be
>> greatly appreciated. :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>>
>
> I pulled these two out of the comp.binaries.apple2 archive:
>
> http://www.macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=1857
> http://www.macgui.com/usenet/?group=105&id=1854
>

Thanks, but these drivers are for RAMFast SCSI cards, not the Apple High

Toinet

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May 2, 2010, 10:21:43 AM5/2/10
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On 2 mai, 14:03, "Polymorph" <polymo...@a2central.com.remove-wg9-this>
wrote:

Jawaid said on another thread that they were no HS drivers made by
sequential.

antoine

Polymorph

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May 2, 2010, 7:14:50 PM5/2/10
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Yes, but did you see my 2nd post within this thread? On the 15th
December 1994, Jawaid announced right here on csa2 that a new SCSI-2
driver for the Apple High Speed SCSI card was available for purchase
from Sequential Systems for $24.95. He even mentioned how to go about
ordering it.

Here is another post I dug up from Jawaid regarding the HS SCSI Driver
shortly after it was announced, answering questions posed by David
Empson:

<quote>
>Does it interface to the SCSI Manager, in the same way as the Apple
>drivers, or is it a replacement for the entire set of drivers? (The
>former, I hope.)

It works with the SCSI Manager, of course. :-)

>Can it be used at the same time as Apple's SCSICD.Driver? (I expect
>not.)

No. In fact, the Installer script deletes SCSICD.Driver.
</quote>

So I'm guessing that the driver did in fact exist. :-)

Cheers,
Mike

A2Aviator

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May 2, 2010, 8:01:22 PM5/2/10
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On May 2, 4:14 pm, Polymorph <mike.a.steph...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So I'm guessing that the driver did in fact exist.  :-)

Yup, it does. Just gotta find it.

Toinet

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May 3, 2010, 4:01:56 AM5/3/10
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OK. Thanks for clarifying that, I thought it was announced but not
sold. I've read Tony's answer as well (eh Tony, where's the disk I'd
like to get ????)

From what I've read, the AppleCD SC and CD150 are both SCSI-1 devices.
The CD-300 and above are SCSI-2 devices. Apple's audio implementation
in the SCSICD and MediaControl drivers differ from a standard SCSI
audio call which prevents audio calls from working with standard
SCSI-2 devices just like the CD-300 (the CD remote NDA is another
example of hardcoded calls)

If one understands what needs to be changed, somebody may re-assemble
the driver to make it SCSI-2 compliant, no?

BTW, has anyone the AppleCD SC developer's guide? I cannot find it on
the web nor on the ADC website.

antoine

Gust L Friedemann

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May 3, 2010, 8:17:27 PM5/3/10
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I wouldn't mind a copy of this either. I've been around these a lot over
the years, in school environments, and my own tinkering, and was always
a bit curious about the intricacies of these little wannabe VCR's.

If anyone has this somewhere, it would be cool to read over.

Polymorph

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May 4, 2010, 6:04:48 AM5/4/10
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To: Polymorph

Polymorph wrote:
> Hold the horses! I just de-BinSCIed the files and on first glance it
> does look like there is a HS SCSI driver in there. Hmmmm...
>
> Time to test it out!
>
> I'll post back results.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike

Well, I successfully managed to build the media control driver, but it
didn't work. I suspect that file might be only a part of the puzzle, or
maybe it has nothing to do with the puzzle at all?

Anyway, still no joy...

Cheers,
Mike

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