Apple IIe boots DOS 3.3, loads Integer Basic, nothing works ?

[m...@fast.net]

I just bought my first Apple IIe.... could never afford one in the early 80's, so now I have one. So... I am not
real familiar with these machines.... The person I bought the IIe from gave me a disk, and when I boot it, it say
its Apple Dos 3.3, and then appears to load Integer Basic into the "Language Card" ! Well, nothing then
works.... for example,

] catalog gives syntax error

] 10 print "hello"
] run gives syntax error

] 10 print "hello"
] list gives syntax error

EVERYTHING seems to be a syntax error. Whats going on ??? Did this disk overwrite Applesoft basic with
Integer basic, and now I'm hosed ??? Anybody got a ProDos boot disc I can buy ??? Why is everything a
syntax error ???

Mike

[Volkmar Friauf]

<m...@fast.net> wrote:

> ] catalog gives syntax error

DOS 3.3 recognizes only upper-case commands. Try using CATALOG instead.

> EVERYTHING seems to be a syntax error. Whats going on ??? Did this disk
> overwrite Applesoft basic with Integer basic, and now I'm hosed ???
> Anybody got a ProDos boot disc I can buy ??? Why is everything a syntax
> error ???

Applesoft resides in ROM, so it can't be overwritten by Integer Basic,
which is loaded into the language card. You can switch between the two
languages using

]INT (from Applesoft to Integer)
>FP (from Integer to Applesoft)

I'm not sure about lower case in BASIC commands. Best thing would be to
try your examples again, but use upper case instead.

Volkmar

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[no1inParticular]

PUSH THE CAPS LOCK KEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

m...@fast.net wrote in message <6bibdl$gg7$1...@news1.fast.net>...

>I just bought my first Apple IIe.... could never afford one in the early
80's, so now I have one. So... I am not
>real familiar with these machines.... The person I bought the IIe from gave
me a disk, and when I boot it, it say
>its Apple Dos 3.3, and then appears to load Integer Basic into the
"Language Card" ! Well, nothing then
>works.... for example,
>
> ] catalog gives syntax error
>
> ] 10 print "hello"
> ] run gives syntax error
>
> ] 10 print "hello"
> ] list gives syntax error
>

>EVERYTHING seems to be a syntax error. Whats going on ??? Did this disk
overwrite Applesoft basic with
>Integer basic, and now I'm hosed ??? Anybody got a ProDos boot disc I can
buy ??? Why is everything a
>syntax error ???
>

>Mike

[Nathan Mates]

In article <6bibdl$gg7$1...@news1.fast.net>, <m...@fast.net> wrote:
>I just bought my first Apple IIe.... could never afford one in the
>early 80's, so now I have one. So... I am not real familiar with
>these machines....

[Tip: press return every 70 columns or so, not 90+. Makes it nicer
to quote] I invite you to read the comp.sys.apple2 FAQ at
http://www.visi.com/~nathan/a2/faq/csa2.html for help on many
subjects.

>The person I bought the IIe from gave me a disk, and when I boot it,
>it say its Apple Dos 3.3, and then appears to load Integer Basic
>into the "Language Card" ! Well, nothing then works....

> ] catalog gives syntax error

Two words: caps lock. Bits were expensive back then, so uppercase
had one fewer set bit, and was much better supported. That'll be
better supported than mixed case. Apply the same fix to Applesoft
Basic (the ']' prompt)

Nathan Mates

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[Dave Althoff]

m...@fast.net wrote:
: I just bought my first Apple IIe.... could never afford one in the early 80's, so now I have one. So... I am not

: real familiar with these machines.... The person I bought the IIe from gave me a disk, and when I boot it, it say

: its Apple Dos 3.3, and then appears to load Integer Basic into the "Language Card" ! Well, nothing then

: works.... for example,

: ] catalog gives syntax error
:
: ] 10 print "hello"
: ] run gives syntax error

: ] 10 print "hello"
: ] list gives syntax error

: EVERYTHING seems to be a syntax error. Whats going on ??? Did this disk overwrite Applesoft basic with
: Integer basic, and now I'm hosed ??? Anybody got a ProDos boot disc I can buy ??? Why is everything a
: syntax error ???

Clearly you have the older version of the System Master. I say that
because when the ][e was introduced, the program HELLO was modified
slightly on the System Master, and the sample programs were moved to their
own disk.

It is also obvious that you have the 'original' "unenhanced" ][e...the one
that puts "Apple ][" on the splash screen instead of "Apple //e".

As long as you are getting the "]" prompt, you are looking at Applesoft
BASIC. Integer BASIC's prompt is ">".

It looks to me like everything is working, and your older System Master is
just fine. But neither Applesoft nor DOS 3.3 knows what you are talking
about when you talk to it in lower case. The major modification to the
System Master when the ][e was introduced was to add a line to the code
that displays the message...

BE SURE THAT CAPS LOCK IS DOWN

in inverse text at the conclusion of the boot process. Switch to all-caps
for your commands, and you should find that everything works just fine.

Welcome to the world of the Apple ][! Have fun!

--Dave Althoff, ][.
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On Sat, 7 Feb 1998 21:42:52 +0100, volkmar...@koeln.netsurf.de
(Volkmar Friauf) wrote:

...

>> Did this disk
>> overwrite Applesoft basic with Integer basic, and now I'm hosed ???

...

>Applesoft resides in ROM, so it can't be overwritten by Integer Basic,
>which is loaded into the language card.

...

Or, if you're using a //e or better, the upper part of its 64K RAM :)

>I'm not sure about lower case in BASIC commands. Best thing would be to
>try your examples again, but use upper case instead.

The older unenhanced //e's require upper case, yes.
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