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Antony Mauget
Feb 24, 2015, 4:45:27 PM2/24/15
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Hi,
New card, new search :-)
This one is a copy card like the Wildcard. For the curious, here is a
picture :
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/321818DarkStarSystemSnapshot2.jpg
According to the manual, it needed a boot disk to install the software in
the RAM card. This is what I'm looking for.
Antoine kindly provides me images but it's an utilities disk (loader and
compression tools). You will find them at the Apple 2 Documentation Project
website.
Thanks a lot.
--
________________
Antony
Apple II forever
New card, new search :-)
This one is a copy card like the Wildcard. For the curious, here is a
picture :
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/321818DarkStarSystemSnapshot2.jpg
According to the manual, it needed a boot disk to install the software in
the RAM card. This is what I'm looking for.
Antoine kindly provides me images but it's an utilities disk (loader and
compression tools). You will find them at the Apple 2 Documentation Project
website.
Thanks a lot.
--
________________
Antony
Apple II forever
cvxmelody
Oct 30, 2015, 2:35:12 AM10/30/15
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Is this the right disk?
* Dark Star Systems Snapshot Two Copykit v4.8 (1983) program disk - unmodified
https://1fichier.com/?bxh3zsdh54
I spotted it among a set of old disks given to me by a former owner of the Snapshot system...
It boots up, loads 16K memory and waits for a press of the snapshot trigger.
* Dark Star Systems Snapshot Two Copykit v4.8 (1983) program disk - unmodified
https://1fichier.com/?bxh3zsdh54
I spotted it among a set of old disks given to me by a former owner of the Snapshot system...
It boots up, loads 16K memory and waits for a press of the snapshot trigger.
cvxmelody
Oct 31, 2015, 1:09:56 AM10/31/15
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Sample backups made with Snapshot system:-
* Karateka (gameplay commences at start):-
https://1fichier.com/?b5aay5rtsa
* Karateka (gameplay commences at level 2):-
https://1fichier.com/?0ohrgtbtjq
Backups will work on any system (no Snapshot card required)
* Karateka (gameplay commences at start):-
https://1fichier.com/?b5aay5rtsa
* Karateka (gameplay commences at level 2):-
https://1fichier.com/?0ohrgtbtjq
Backups will work on any system (no Snapshot card required)
Antony Mauget
Nov 1, 2015, 2:42:47 AM11/1/15
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cvxmelody wrote:
> Is this the right disk?
>
> * Dark Star Systems Snapshot Two Copykit v4.8 (1983) program disk -
> unmodified
> https://1fichier.com/?bxh3zsdh54
>
> I spotted it among a set of old disks given to me by a former owner of the
> Snapshot system...
>
> It boots up, loads 16K memory and waits for a press of the snapshot
> trigger.
>
Hello cvxmelody ,
> Is this the right disk?
>
> * Dark Star Systems Snapshot Two Copykit v4.8 (1983) program disk -
> unmodified
> https://1fichier.com/?bxh3zsdh54
>
> I spotted it among a set of old disks given to me by a former owner of the
> Snapshot system...
>
> It boots up, loads 16K memory and waits for a press of the snapshot
> trigger.
>
Thanks a lot, it looks very promising.
I have to figure out how to tranfer the protected image file to a real Apple
II disk.
Michael J. Mahon
Nov 1, 2015, 2:29:11 PM11/1/15
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-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://michaeljmahon.com
cvxmelody
Nov 1, 2015, 8:17:42 PM11/1/15
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You're welcome. There is another disk you can test, but I believe it's for Snapshot One:-
http://yesterbits.com/scans/scandump/
They had to recopy DOS to the disk to get it to work, so you could also try that for the protected file
http://yesterbits.com/scans/scandump/
They had to recopy DOS to the disk to get it to work, so you could also try that for the protected file
Don Bruder
Nov 2, 2015, 12:54:52 AM11/2/15
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In article <zIadnUlfGt6Y9avL...@giganews.com>,
Remember a package called the "CIA files"? (Everybody I knew called it
"Tricky Dick", but the proper name was CIA files) The most potent set of
pure-software Apple II kracking tools I've *EVER* encountered.
If you could find an original copy, you'd find that the disk was
plastered with some of the most formidable copy protection you're ever
likely to encounter - Everything from trivial crap like diddled volume
numbers and "hiding" the directory sectors by putting them somewhere
other than track $11, to mutilated sector headers, so-called
"spiral-tracking", and probably a dozen more methods I can no longer
remember the details of. The intention was to provide "live" example
stuff for you to beat your head against as you learned the uses of the
various tools - By the time you finished the tutorials, if you couldn't
copy a disk - ANY disk - using one or more of the CIA Files tools, then
chances were good that nothing short of a WildCard would do the job.
--
Security provided by Mssrs Smith and/or Wesson. Brought to you by the letter Q
"Tricky Dick", but the proper name was CIA files) The most potent set of
pure-software Apple II kracking tools I've *EVER* encountered.
If you could find an original copy, you'd find that the disk was
plastered with some of the most formidable copy protection you're ever
likely to encounter - Everything from trivial crap like diddled volume
numbers and "hiding" the directory sectors by putting them somewhere
other than track $11, to mutilated sector headers, so-called
"spiral-tracking", and probably a dozen more methods I can no longer
remember the details of. The intention was to provide "live" example
stuff for you to beat your head against as you learned the uses of the
various tools - By the time you finished the tutorials, if you couldn't
copy a disk - ANY disk - using one or more of the CIA Files tools, then
chances were good that nothing short of a WildCard would do the job.
--
Security provided by Mssrs Smith and/or Wesson. Brought to you by the letter Q
Antony Mauget
Nov 2, 2015, 7:45:02 AM11/2/15
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Don Bruder wrote:
>
> Remember a package called the "CIA files"? (Everybody I knew called it
> "Tricky Dick", but the proper name was CIA files) The most potent set of
> pure-software Apple II kracking tools I've *EVER* encountered.
>
> If you could find an original copy, you'd find that the disk was
> plastered with some of the most formidable copy protection you're ever
> likely to encounter - Everything from trivial crap like diddled volume
> numbers and "hiding" the directory sectors by putting them somewhere
> other than track $11, to mutilated sector headers, so-called
> "spiral-tracking", and probably a dozen more methods I can no longer
> remember the details of. The intention was to provide "live" example
> stuff for you to beat your head against as you learned the uses of the
> various tools - By the time you finished the tutorials, if you couldn't
> copy a disk - ANY disk - using one or more of the CIA Files tools, then
> chances were good that nothing short of a WildCard would do the job.
>
Thanks Don, I will take a look.
>
> Remember a package called the "CIA files"? (Everybody I knew called it
> "Tricky Dick", but the proper name was CIA files) The most potent set of
> pure-software Apple II kracking tools I've *EVER* encountered.
>
> If you could find an original copy, you'd find that the disk was
> plastered with some of the most formidable copy protection you're ever
> likely to encounter - Everything from trivial crap like diddled volume
> numbers and "hiding" the directory sectors by putting them somewhere
> other than track $11, to mutilated sector headers, so-called
> "spiral-tracking", and probably a dozen more methods I can no longer
> remember the details of. The intention was to provide "live" example
> stuff for you to beat your head against as you learned the uses of the
> various tools - By the time you finished the tutorials, if you couldn't
> copy a disk - ANY disk - using one or more of the CIA Files tools, then
> chances were good that nothing short of a WildCard would do the job.
>
After further inspection, it seems the disk is not protected. The errors
were caused by the transfer process (bad media and/or reading problems).
Thanks to Antoine for pointing this out.
Antony Mauget
Nov 2, 2015, 7:46:59 AM11/2/15
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I've already downloaded this image file before posting here. This version
doesn't work with my card...
Michael J. Mahon
Nov 2, 2015, 1:39:09 PM11/2/15
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exploring virtually *any* disk, and extracting even heavily protected data.
Anyone who is curious about disk protection can get a real education
through practical experience.
sicklittlemonkey
Nov 2, 2015, 7:50:37 PM11/2/15
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On Tuesday, 3 November 2015 07:39:09 UTC+13, Michael J. Mahon wrote:
Tricky Dick is the name of the sector editor. The other tools in the suite are modules accessible from that.
Cheers,
Nick.
> Don Bruder wrote:
> > Remember a package called the "CIA files"? (Everybody I knew called it
> > "Tricky Dick", but the proper name was CIA files) The most potent set of
> > pure-software Apple II kracking tools I've *EVER* encountered.
>
> > Remember a package called the "CIA files"? (Everybody I knew called it
> > "Tricky Dick", but the proper name was CIA files) The most potent set of
> > pure-software Apple II kracking tools I've *EVER* encountered.
>
> I agree about the "CIA Files"--a terrific tutorial and excellent tools for
> exploring virtually *any* disk, and extracting even heavily protected data.
Yes, these have been my go-to tools since the 80's. It would be great if someone could scan the manual which was quite a good tutorial IIRC. I have a poor quality photocopy somewhere in the attic.
> exploring virtually *any* disk, and extracting even heavily protected data.
Tricky Dick is the name of the sector editor. The other tools in the suite are modules accessible from that.
Cheers,
Nick.
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