Transfering files to an Apple II GS without Mac or serial link
Peter Watson
disks directly on a GS, don't you?
Although originally written for floppy disks, most removable hard drives are
supported as well, such as Zip and SyQuest drives.
The most recent version is called MUG! (MSDOS Utilities Graphical !nterface)
which is written as an NDA so that it always available. The original MSDOS
Utilities were a set of text-based MSDOS-like utilities written to run under
IIgs command shells such as the ORCA shell, ProSel, GNO/ME, or at a pinch,
the minimal command shell that is included.
Both of these are available from just about any IIGS software site that I am
aware of. At a pinch, you can get them from me.
For shareware, the software works, and works well.
--
Peter Watson
-- Write to MSDOS disks on the Apple IIgs?
-- Impossible! ;-)
"Capitaine Caverne" <n...@mail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9265F0ED...@213.228.0.32...
> Hi, as I still can't use null modem transfer (why, don't know but I've
> tried and tried again) I wonder if I could use this way :
>
> - Setup a PC under linux
> - Install hfsutils
> - Plug an old external SCSI drive
> - Format the drive HFS
> - Copy all the GS files I need
> - Plug the drive on my GS chained behind my Syquest
> - Boot GSOS on the Syquest and copy the files on the Prodos volume
>
> BUT, there is perhaps a problem. The only OS I have on my Syquest is GSOS
> 5. I don't know if this version can mount HFS volumes.
>
> In that case I could mount the Prodos volume under linux.
> What is the best solution ? Using the module written by Matt Jensen or (if
> possible) use Kegs ???
>
> Thanks
Capitaine Caverne
news:Vf659.2170$Sy4....@news-server.bigpond.net.au:
> You do know there is software available to allow you read and write
> MS-DOS disks directly on a GS, don't you?
>
> Although originally written for floppy disks, most removable hard
> drives are supported as well, such as Zip and SyQuest drives.
>
> The most recent version is called MUG! (MSDOS Utilities Graphical
> !nterface) which is written as an NDA so that it always available. The
> original MSDOS Utilities were a set of text-based MSDOS-like utilities
> written to run under IIgs command shells such as the ORCA shell,
> ProSel, GNO/ME, or at a pinch, the minimal command shell that is
> included.
>
> Both of these are available from just about any IIGS software site
> that I am aware of. At a pinch, you can get them from me.
>
> For shareware, the software works, and works well.
> --
> Peter Watson
> -- Write to MSDOS disks on the Apple IIgs?
> -- Impossible! ;-)
>
Are you sure ?? I allways heard that there is a hardware problem to
read/write MSDOS disks on 800k floppies...
That said, even if I'm right this could work pretty well on SCSI media ...
Capitaine Caverne
news:Vf659.2170$Sy4....@news-server.bigpond.net.au:
>
> Both of these are available from just about any IIGS software site
> that I am aware of. At a pinch, you can get them from me.
>
I've tried to find these utilities by myself but didn't succeed... Perhaps
am I lacking good web GS archives adresses... Could you give me some links
please ?
Thanks
Paul Grammens
Here's some info on MUG from the faq:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/apple2/faq/part23/
"From: Supertimer and Rubywand
PC<-->IIgs
You can use MUG! to R/W MS-DOS formatted Zip disks. Mug! (mug101.bxy)
along with an info file is on Ground at ...
http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/apple16/System/Ndas/ .
MUG! is an NDA (New Desk Accessory) which must be started from the
'Apple menu' (click on the Apple symbol) available at the top of a typical
GS 'desktop'-type display.
One thing to be aware of is that MUG! should be used from an
application other than Finder (the usual main GS "desktop display"). The
Finder and many other applications will do a drive check, find the MS-DOS
Zip disk, and respond with something like: "Installed FSTs do not recognize
disk, do you wish to format it or eject it?".
MUG! seems to work fine when selected from Platinum Paint or PMPUnZip.
(If you start from Platinum Paint, be sure to go to 640 mode first in order
to be able to see the entire MUG! display.) PMPUnZip is, probably, your
best bet because it is a relatively small program. Once, say, PMPUnZip
is started, you can insert your PC Zip MS-DOS Zip disk and start MUG!.
Setting the Copy option to "to GS/OS", I copied several .shk, .wav, and .jpg
files from the Zip Disk to /RAM5 RAM disk with no problem."
I tried it once, just for fun. It worked, but I seem to recall it's nagware.
I think accessing floppies requires the Apple 1.44 floppy card, if I'm
remembering right. In your case, it would speed the process by letting you
access MS-DOS-formatted SCSI disks. I seem to recall that it can't handle
long filenames, or formatting under win95 or later. I booted from a DOS
6.22 floppy to format the disk I used. Hope that helps.
-Paul
-Paul
Mike Pfaiffer
> You do know there is software available to allow you read and write MS-DOS
> disks directly on a GS, don't you?
Mac/HFS format would be better. Longer file names, case sensitive names,
support for forked files, etc..
Later
Mike
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Capitaine Caverne
news:3D5584A4...@digitalcivilization.ca:
> Peter Watson wrote:
>> You do know there is software available to allow you read and write
>> MS-DOS disks directly on a GS, don't you?
>
> Mac/HFS format would be better. Longer file names, case sensitive
> names,
> support for forked files, etc..
>
> Later
> Mike
>
I do a try tonite, and mounted under linux a hfs partition written under
gsos and could copy over the network the entire content of the disk..
Just a note : I've just installed the 6.01 HFS FST under gsos 5 as I can't
boot gs os 6.01 (not enough ram if I install the scsihd driver)...
Mike Pfaiffer
I hope you are using something like a Zip disk or removable hard disk.
Even Linux won't be able to handle 800K floppies. The 1.4Mb floppies
should be fine. It's a hardware thing.
I seem to recall something about Macs not being able to read HFS disks
formatted with an earlier FST version. I don't think the same problem
exists with Linux.
Capitaine Caverne
>
> I hope you are using something like a Zip disk or removable hard
> disk.
> Even Linux won't be able to handle 800K floppies. The 1.4Mb floppies
> should be fine. It's a hardware thing.
>
> I seem to recall something about Macs not being able to read HFS
> disks
> formatted with an earlier FST version. I don't think the same problem
> exists with Linux.
>
Yes, I'm using a 340MB scsi drive (external)... Used it under linux and I
was able to read and copy the entire content. This way I will transfer a
bunch of 5.25 floppy and old personnal code for archiving...
Just a note : I've also burned several CDRW with Nero on my PC and been
able to read them under GSOS without problem. Very easy to feed my GSOS
volume with web downloads !