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CiderPress for Mac OS X with WineBottler (and How-To)
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sicklittlemonkey
Oct 1, 2013, 7:44:05 PM10/1/13
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(Expanded summary of the post from the Facebook "Apple II Enthusiasts" group.)
Since WineBottler can package AppleWin for Mac OS X I presumed it would be pretty easy to make a CiderPress app, and it is. Here's a link for the version that requires Wine.app to be already installed. (Still 130MB though!)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3JBd-TShLlLZzNPRjc5QWV3bDA/edit?usp=sharing
And here's the stand-alone version with Wine.app embedded. (So you don't need WB, but it's 250MB!)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3JBd-TShLlLSFhkV05PcXhRVkU/edit?usp=sharing
For the smaller version you don't need to _use_ WineBottler, but you need Wine.app which WB installs. Get the latest WB release candidate as it installs a more recent version of Wine.app which is needed.
These have been tested working on 10.6 and 10.8. Apparently Wine.app has problems on 10.9 - read the WineBottler blog for more info if you run into problems.
Finally, I'll document what I did - just in case anyone is interested in making similar packages. It's fairly well documented in the WB documentation "Do Your Own" section, with a few caveats ...
http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/documentation
1. I didn't use the CiderPress installer. On Windows I used Dependency Walker to find CP's referenced DLLs:
http://www.dependencywalker.com/
2. Since CP has a few modules, all in the CP directory, I zipped up the contents of that folder on Windows and unzipped it to a folder on my Mac. In WB I selected the option "This is the actual program, copy it and all files that are in the same folder".
3. The "Winetricks" option is a pain to scroll through, but CP only needs comctl32 (for COMCTL32.DLL) and vcrun6sp4 (for MFC and VC DLLs). It might be better to use vcrun6sp6, but that's a 60MB separate download - something to try if anyone runs into CP GUI problems.
4. The other options are easy or optional, then clicking "Install" will bring up a dialog to choose the destination. Here I ran into a WB bug. The default directory is the one we're copying the CP executable and DLLs from, so if WB puts the resulting app there it will package that into itself recursively and hang. (The author will try to fix that in the next release.) Choose the parent folder and all is well.
If you have any questions or comments please email me.
Cheers,
Nick.
Since WineBottler can package AppleWin for Mac OS X I presumed it would be pretty easy to make a CiderPress app, and it is. Here's a link for the version that requires Wine.app to be already installed. (Still 130MB though!)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3JBd-TShLlLZzNPRjc5QWV3bDA/edit?usp=sharing
And here's the stand-alone version with Wine.app embedded. (So you don't need WB, but it's 250MB!)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3JBd-TShLlLSFhkV05PcXhRVkU/edit?usp=sharing
For the smaller version you don't need to _use_ WineBottler, but you need Wine.app which WB installs. Get the latest WB release candidate as it installs a more recent version of Wine.app which is needed.
These have been tested working on 10.6 and 10.8. Apparently Wine.app has problems on 10.9 - read the WineBottler blog for more info if you run into problems.
Finally, I'll document what I did - just in case anyone is interested in making similar packages. It's fairly well documented in the WB documentation "Do Your Own" section, with a few caveats ...
http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/documentation
1. I didn't use the CiderPress installer. On Windows I used Dependency Walker to find CP's referenced DLLs:
http://www.dependencywalker.com/
2. Since CP has a few modules, all in the CP directory, I zipped up the contents of that folder on Windows and unzipped it to a folder on my Mac. In WB I selected the option "This is the actual program, copy it and all files that are in the same folder".
3. The "Winetricks" option is a pain to scroll through, but CP only needs comctl32 (for COMCTL32.DLL) and vcrun6sp4 (for MFC and VC DLLs). It might be better to use vcrun6sp6, but that's a 60MB separate download - something to try if anyone runs into CP GUI problems.
4. The other options are easy or optional, then clicking "Install" will bring up a dialog to choose the destination. Here I ran into a WB bug. The default directory is the one we're copying the CP executable and DLLs from, so if WB puts the resulting app there it will package that into itself recursively and hang. (The author will try to fix that in the next release.) Choose the parent folder and all is well.
If you have any questions or comments please email me.
Cheers,
Nick.
Michael 'AppleWin Debugger Dev'
Aug 18, 2016, 8:09:42 PM8/18/16
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On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 at 4:44:05 PM UTC-7, sicklittlemonkey wrote:
Necro'ing ...
I tried the version of CiderPress with Wine embedded on OSX 10.10.5 and it works great.
Thanks for taking the time to do this!
Michael
Necro'ing ...
I tried the version of CiderPress with Wine embedded on OSX 10.10.5 and it works great.
Thanks for taking the time to do this!
Michael
sicklittlemonkey
Aug 19, 2016, 7:51:37 PM8/19/16
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No worries.
There's a newer version of CP though.
Maybe you should try to bottle it. ;-)
Cheers,
Nick.
There's a newer version of CP though.
Maybe you should try to bottle it. ;-)
Cheers,
Nick.
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