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Apple Orchard magazine - LINGET routine

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goldenhound

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Apr 22, 2011, 12:17:45 PM4/22/11
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Old Apple ][ enthusiast that used to program in AppleSoft and
Assembler as a hobby:

I'm looking for a resource to anything having to do with using the
(Apple ][) ROM to get a line of applesoft code and display it on the
screen.

I understand from searching the Net (What's Where in the Apple) that
there was an article from Apple Orchard Vol 1 Number 1, pg 13 that
explained the AppleSoft LINGET routine. Is there an on-line resource
for that magazine? I've looked to no avail.

Was there an effort or book that tore apart the ROM routines, and
really looked in-depth as to what they did? What's Where in the Apple
always seemed too light on explanations.

A pointer in the right direction would *really* be appreciated. I've
been away from this sort of thing for decades. Using AppleWin
emulator.

Thanks in advance,
GoldenHound

Charlie

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Apr 22, 2011, 4:08:42 PM4/22/11
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I don't know about the Apple Orchard article but you can find the
commented source for Applesoft here:

http://www.txbobsc.com/scsc/scdocumentor/

Charlie


goldenhound

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Apr 22, 2011, 5:03:19 PM4/22/11
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On Apr 22, 1:08 pm, Charlie <charlieD...@verEYEzon.net> wrote:
> On 4/22/2011 11:17 AM, goldenhound wrote:
>
>
>
> > I understand from searching the Net (What's Where in the Apple) that
> > there was an article from Apple Orchard Vol 1 Number 1, pg 13 that
> > explained the AppleSoft LINGET routine.  Is there an on-line resource
> > for that magazine?  I've looked to no avail.


>


> I don't know about the Apple Orchard article but you can find the
> commented source for Applesoft here:
>
> http://www.txbobsc.com/scsc/scdocumentor/
>
> Charlie

Hi Charlie,

Thanks for the reply to my post. I actually did find this in my
search, so its nice to know others think the same way.

Regards

Michael J. Mahon

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Apr 22, 2011, 9:41:10 PM4/22/11
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This is a fine disassembly, but it would be much more useful to
have the entire assembly in one, searchable file--a .pdf, for example.
Having to separately search many files is a nuisance.

Another great disassmbly is Glen Bredon's Sourceror, which was on
the flip side of the 5.25" Merlin 8 distribution disk. It assembles
a complete, commented Applesoft listing which can be easily searched.

-michael

NadaNet 3.1 for Apple II parallel computing!
Home page: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon/

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."

goldenhound

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Apr 25, 2011, 11:26:09 AM4/25/11
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Mr. Mahon,

Yes - I do recall that listing. I had Merlin back in the old days,
but
I don't believe I ever paid as much attention to that Sourceror
listing.
That's a good idea. I'll have to take a look at it.


My hope was to find a good article on the why's and wherefore's things
happen - to hold my hand, so to speak, regarding those internals.

Thanks for the pointer!

Regards and a belated Happy Easter,
Goldenhound

Toinet

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Apr 25, 2011, 12:16:48 PM4/25/11
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I took my issue of Golden Orchard and will scan the pages for you
tomorrow,
antoine

Michael J. Mahon

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Apr 25, 2011, 5:44:24 PM4/25/11
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goldenhound wrote:
> Mr. Mahon,
>
> Yes - I do recall that listing. I had Merlin back in the old days,
> but
> I don't believe I ever paid as much attention to that Sourceror
> listing.
> That's a good idea. I'll have to take a look at it.
>
>
> My hope was to find a good article on the why's and wherefore's things
> happen - to hold my hand, so to speak, regarding those internals.
>
> Thanks for the pointer!
>
> Regards and a belated Happy Easter,
> Goldenhound

The closest I'v seen to what you describe is the Call-A.P.P.L.E.
"All About Applesoft" volume, and though it has useful descriptions
of the functions of many Applesoft entry points, it is not a thorough
dissection of the ROM.

It focuses more on entry points that are likely to be used in a M/L
extension to Applesoft than on the "housekeeping" routines.

It is a good complement to a ROM disassembly, however.

$D6A5 is the start of the LIST routine in the ROM. That would
be a good place to start looking.

Toinet

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Apr 26, 2011, 6:03:55 AM4/26/11
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Scan of the article sent to your email address,
antoine

goldenhound

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Apr 26, 2011, 12:10:27 PM4/26/11
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On Apr 26, 3:03 am, Toinet <antoine.vig...@laposte.net> wrote:
> Scan of the article sent to your email address,
> antoine

FAN...TASTIC! Thanks very much Antoine. A very nice scan indeed -
You did a great job.
I couldn't have asked for better!

Well, my birthday isn't for a month yet, but I can't think of a better
present.

Happy Birthday to me...Happy Birthday to me...

Fine Regards, and again Thank You for going to the trouble of sharing
that information!
Rob

Michael J. Mahon

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Apr 26, 2011, 3:04:53 PM4/26/11
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goldenhound wrote:
> Old Apple ][ enthusiast that used to program in AppleSoft and
> Assembler as a hobby:
>
> I'm looking for a resource to anything having to do with using the
> (Apple ][) ROM to get a line of applesoft code and display it on the
> screen.

If you were in an Applesoft program, LIST <nnnn> would do it. ;-)

> I understand from searching the Net (What's Where in the Apple) that
> there was an article from Apple Orchard Vol 1 Number 1, pg 13 that
> explained the AppleSoft LINGET routine. Is there an on-line resource
> for that magazine? I've looked to no avail.

LINGET collects an ASCII line number and converts it to binary.

Toinet

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Apr 26, 2011, 5:18:14 PM4/26/11
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...and for those interested, please find the scans @
http://www.brutaldeluxe.fr/documentation/manual/

The file name begins with "theappleorchard"
There is a bitmap PDF and a OCRed PDF.

antoine

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