FS: Lot of IIC's
mojoehand
fool with them and need the space. Two are missing a few keys. With
these, I also have one IIC power supply in the original box
(untested). Asking $100 for everything, plus shipping. If I don't sell
these soon, they may go in the dumpster.
BTW, I'll probably have a few other things to sell after I finish
digging through my stuff.
mojoehand
go.
atfphot...@gmail.com
Where ya located?
mojoehand
Nick Westgate
> It's too late to ask about them now.
What a sickening waste.
Nick.
Silicon Sam
It's like the old Goodwill here in Austin. They put a computer at
$100 say, if it doesn't sell they sell it for scrap at $3. No in
between with them.
atfphot...@gmail.com
Why? I was gonna look in the dumpster. Nyukkkkkk!!!
ATF
jt august
<51d83fa8-0406-4b6b...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
mojoehand <mojo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, it has been a week and no one is interested. In the dumpster they
> go.
>
> On Jul 15, 7:16�pm, mojoehand <mojoeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have four IIC's that are untested. I just haven't had the time to
> > fool with them and need the space. Two are missing a few keys. With
> > these, I also have one IIC power supply in the original box
> > (untested). Asking $100 for everything, plus shipping. If I don't sell
> > these soon, they may go in the dumpster.
$100 is excessive for broken IIc's. $25 to $50 a piece with monitor and
software for working machines seems the norm on eBay, so $25 a piece for
a broken cpu only is not going to happen. And to punish the world
because we aren't willing to overpay only makes you look pathetic,
selfish and loathsome. $3-$8 a piece for broken IIcs with no software
would have been realistic.
jt
schmidtd
There was a similar thread on comp.sys.cbm recently:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.cbm/browse_frm/thread/556fc8410e19c063#
Another threat to throw stuff away. Must be some new vector for
trolling.
mojoehand
> On Jul 24, 12:46 am, Nick Westgate <nick.westg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 24, 1:09 pm, mojoehand <mojoeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > It's too late to ask about them now.
>
> > What a sickening waste.
>
> Another threat to throw stuff away. Must be some new vector for
> trolling.
You know, everyone is giving me hell for trashing this stuff. If you
were all so concerned, why didn't any one of you make me an offer.
Just like anything that gets listed here, it's all negotiable. And as
for suggesting that I am trolling, you shouldn't accuse someone when
you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I just sold a
Vulcan card to one of the list members and it was listed at the same
time I listed the IIc computers. If you all want to continue making
disparging remarks, go right ahead, as I'm done with this topic and
will not read or respond.
Mike Spurgeon
> You know, everyone is giving me hell for trashing this stuff. If you
> were all so concerned, why didn't any one of you make me an offer.
You didn't ask for offers. You said "$100 for everything, plus shipping"
> Just like anything that gets listed here, it's all negotiable.
Just between all of us, "$100 for everything, plus shipping" doesn't
sound too negotiable.
> I'm done with this topic and will not read or respond.
Perhaps not respond, but you'll read...
Nick Westgate
> You know, everyone is giving me hell for trashing this stuff. If you
> were all so concerned, why didn't any one of you make me an offer.
Because $100 + shipping to Japan tends towards infinity.
Nick.
Paul G.
> On Jul 24, 12:46 am, Nick Westgate <nick.westg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 24, 1:09 pm, mojoehand <mojoeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > It's too late to ask about them now.
>
> > What a sickening waste.
>
> Another threat to throw stuff away. Must be some new vector for
> trolling.
I like it! Next time I offer something for sale here I'm going to
include a link to a picture of the item duct taped to a chair, and a
"ransom style" note reading "$100 plus shipping or the Apple II gets
it!"
-Paul
Steven Lichter
Everyone just let it drop, this is starting to flameup.
--
The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today?
(c) 2009 I Kill Spammers, inc, A Rot in Hell. Co.
jt august
Steven Lichter <diesp...@killspammers.com> wrote:
> Paul G. wrote:
> > On Jul 24, 7:56 am, schmidtd <schmi...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> On Jul 24, 12:46 am, Nick Westgate <nick.westg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Jul 24, 1:09 pm, mojoehand <mojoeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> It's too late to ask about them now.
> >>> What a sickening waste.
> >> There was a similar thread on comp.sys.cbm
> >> recently:http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.cbm/browse_frm/thread/556f
> >> c84...
> >> Another threat to throw stuff away. Must be some new vector for
> >> trolling.
> >
> > I like it! Next time I offer something for sale here I'm going to
> > include a link to a picture of the item duct taped to a chair, and a
> > "ransom style" note reading "$100 plus shipping or the Apple II gets
> > it!"
> > -Paul
>
> Everyone just let it drop, this is starting to flameup.
Maybe so, but you have to admit, Paul's comment was pretty damn funny.
jt
Nick Westgate
> Maybe so, but you have to admit, Paul's comment was pretty damn funny.
I reckon. ;-)
Cheers,
Nick.
Calibrator
wrote:
> Paul G. wrote:
> >
> > I like it! Next time I offer something for sale here I'm going to
> > include a link to a picture of the item duct taped to a chair, and a
> > "ransom style" note reading "$100 plus shipping or the Apple II gets
> > it!"
>
Why, every dead Apple increases the value of the surviving ones!
;-)
Marcus
Steven Hirsch
> mojoehand wrote:
>
>> You know, everyone is giving me hell for trashing this stuff. If you
>> were all so concerned, why didn't any one of you make me an offer.
>
> You didn't ask for offers. You said "$100 for everything, plus shipping"
>
>> Just like anything that gets listed here, it's all negotiable.
>
>
> Just between all of us, "$100 for everything, plus shipping" doesn't
> sound too negotiable.
For my part, I always consider direct for-sale postings as negotiable and have
acquired a lot of items by doing so. That includes the Vulcan disk system
Mojo posted here. I found him to be a pleasure to deal with and am very happy
with the transaction.
Now I need to get busy and troubleshoot the switching supply in this baby..
Paul G.
wrote:
> Paul G. wrote:
> > On Jul 24, 7:56 am, schmidtd <schmi...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> On Jul 24, 12:46 am, Nick Westgate <nick.westg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 24, 1:09 pm, mojoehand <mojoeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> It's too late to ask about them now.
> >>> What a sickening waste.
> >> There was a similar thread on comp.sys.cbm recently:http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.cbm/browse_frm/thread/556fc84...
> >> Another threat to throw stuff away. Must be some new vector for
> >> trolling.
>
> > I like it! Next time I offer something for sale here I'm going to
> > include a link to a picture of the item duct taped to a chair, and a
> > "ransom style" note reading "$100 plus shipping or the Apple II gets
> > it!"
> > -Paul
>
> Everyone just let it drop, this is starting to flameup.
>
That's like pouring gas on a fire "to put it out". I don't take
kindly to self-important busybodies who think they can order other
people around. I'll let you off with a warning this time. Next time
I'm going to chastise you with a limerick "Lichter" is just crying
out for a limerick. I'm amazed at my self-restraint.
-Paul
Paul G.
I fixed one a couple of years back. I can't remember if it was a small
electrolytic with high ESR or a fractured solder joint.
-Paul
Garberstreet Electronics
"Paul G." <car...@egine.com> wrote in message news:0afefff4-2307-4b78...@d4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
Yes, the proper way to handle it is to make a semi-snide,
partially sarcastic humorous remark, such as:
"Is it getting hot in here, or is it me?, Whew!"
Gets the point across without sounding like you own the joint.
Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com
Paul G.
<willy4...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote in messagenews:0afefff4-2307-4b78...@d4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
This is a tempest in a teaspoon, it doesn't even warrant a teapot. But
here's a poem in honor of an epic flamewar:
There once was a flamewar so hot
CSA2 was smoking a lot
Ol' Q Cat was mewing
and obscenities spewing
but Turley just ignored the lot.
-Paul
Garberstreet Electronics
"Paul G." <car...@egine.com> wrote in message news:ea7ca406-40c9-4b5c...@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
a) ---- There once was a flamewar so hot
b) ---- CSA2 was smoking a lot
c) ---- Ol' Q Cat was mewing
d) ---- and obscenities spewing
e-gads) but Turley just ignored the lot.
:
: -Paul
Wonder how many "What's a Turley?", we'll get now. ;-)
Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com
jt august
"Garberstreet Electronics" <will...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Wonder how many "What's a Turley?", we'll get now. ;-)
Now what, but who? I am recent to this forum, but having been in
rec.gaqmes.video.classic and other newsgroups since the early 90's, I've
seen my share of flamewars and nicknames.
jt
Garberstreet Electronics
"jt august" <star...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:starsabre-5C090...@aries.ka.weretis.net...
Well, jt, I'll talks how I talks, and you talks how you talks.
This is one flamewar that we really don't want to see
started up again, and that is a nickname we don't really
want to hear from, either, so, that's why I said it the
way I said it.
If you knew Turley like we knew Turley, you'd say
"What's a Turley", as well. ;-)))))
Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com
Paul G.
> In article <x42dnYeico5grfPXnZ2dnUVZ8hadn...@giganews.com>,
> "Garberstreet Electronics" <willy4...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Wonder how many "What's a Turley?", we'll get now. ;-)
>
> Now what, but who? I am recent to this forum, but having been in
> rec.gaqmes.video.classic and other newsgroups since the early 90's, I've
> seen my share of flamewars and nicknames.
>
> jt
Charles Turley, aka "Tada Pope" was a sort of cross between Timothy
Leary and Blackbeard, equipped with an Apple II. He was a prolific
pirate of Apple II software, and wasn't the least bit subtle about it.
This enraged some people. One of Turley's most vociferous enemies (he
had so many...) was Quantum Cat. He dogged Turley like Captain Ahab
after Moby Dick: "To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's
heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at
thee." Any time Turley posted, Q Cat would post an obscenity-filled
reply. This went on for years. Turley made me uncomfortable, but he
did post some useful Apple-related info, including links to pirated A2
software. Q Cat's posts were just anti-Turley diatribes devoid of
Apple content. (He could be witty, though.)
It's part of the colorful history of CSA2.
-Paul
Michael J. Mahon
And it's worth noting that that era probably saw a huge decrease
in csa2 participants--that's the real legacy of flamewars.
Most people read a newsgroup to participate in a community and
get and provide information. Many are turned off by displays of
anger and sarcasm, even if semi-witty.
Spam, trolls, and flamewars are all destructive of the purpose
of a newsgroup, and participants should aim to prevent/avoid them.
-michael
NadaNet 3.0 for Apple II parallel computing!
Home page: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon/
"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."
Steven Hirsch
> It's part of the colorful history of CSA2.
And the reason I largely avoided CSA2 between 1994-2000 or so. Never in my
life have I witnessed such hot and cold-running childishness <shudder>. A
textbook example of Usenet at its very, very worst.
Terry Olsen
The thrift stores here are worse. The put a computer at $100. If it
doesn't sell at that price, they throw it in a secured dumpster. They
put up 8' chain-link fences around their dumpsters to keep people from
taking stuff out of them.
D Finnigan
Well, that just goes to show the general demographic of people who work at
those thrift shops. They're just people who have a high school diploma and
nothing else.
Steven Hirsch
> The thrift stores here are worse. The put a computer at $100. If it
> doesn't sell at that price, they throw it in a secured dumpster. They
> put up 8' chain-link fences around their dumpsters to keep people from
> taking stuff out of them.
Same here in Burlington, VT. They won't let anyone near the discards and
protect them as if they were solid gold! I can only assume they have a deal
with a recycler that requires all unsold electronic items to go only to them.
Michael J. Mahon
> Terry Olsen wrote:
>
>> The thrift stores here are worse. The put a computer at $100. If it
>> doesn't sell at that price, they throw it in a secured dumpster. They
>> put up 8' chain-link fences around their dumpsters to keep people from
>> taking stuff out of them.
This is actually a reasonable course of action for them if they are
concerned about their profits. If unsold machines could be easily
picked up _gratis_, there would be less motivation for people to
purchase them.
A much better way to handle objects of unknown value would be to
auction them--but that's not their business model.
> Same here in Burlington, VT. They won't let anyone near the discards
> and protect them as if they were solid gold! I can only assume they
> have a deal with a recycler that requires all unsold electronic items to
> go only to them.
...and many recyclers are obligated to _recycle_ all equipment,
not enable its _reuse_, which is certainly the most benign
possible disposition of desirable (to some) equipment.
This is just one indication that safeguarding the environment has
nothing to do with these efforts.
-michael
NadaNet and AppleCrate II: parallel computing for Apple II computers!
Home page: http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon
Steven Hirsch
>> Same here in Burlington, VT. They won't let anyone near the discards
>> and protect them as if they were solid gold! I can only assume they
>> have a deal with a recycler that requires all unsold electronic items
>> to go only to them.
>
> ...and many recyclers are obligated to _recycle_ all equipment,
> not enable its _reuse_, which is certainly the most benign
> possible disposition of desirable (to some) equipment.
Do not even get me started on that subject. We have a local "recycling"
effort that accepts literally tons of computers and electronic equipment from
the public one day a year. I had to stand and watch in horror as some very
interesting vintage gear was tossed into large scrap bins and loaded on
tractor-trailers. They wouldn't let me anywhere near the equipment, much less
encourage recycling.
Michael J. Mahon
As a result of modern machines containing non-volatile storage, many
recyclers are (incorrectly) worried about liability issues resulting
from old equipment getting into other's hands. The only simple rule
is an absolute rule.
This is a natural consequence of ignorance, which is a natural
consequence of razor-thin margins in the recycling business. ;-(
D Finnigan
> > Steven Hirsch wrote:
>> Michael J. Mahon wrote:
>>
>>>> Same here in Burlington, VT. They won't let anyone near the discards
>>>> and protect them as if they were solid gold! I can only assume they
>>>> have a deal with a recycler that requires all unsold electronic items
>>>> to go only to them.
>>>
>>>
>>> ...and many recyclers are obligated to _recycle_ all equipment,
>>> not enable its _reuse_, which is certainly the most benign
>>> possible disposition of desirable (to some) equipment.
>>
>>
>> Do not even get me started on that subject. We have a local "recycling"
>> effort that accepts literally tons of computers and electronic equipment
>> from the public one day a year. I had to stand and watch in horror as
>> some very interesting vintage gear was tossed into large scrap bins and
>> loaded on tractor-trailers. They wouldn't let me anywhere near the
>> equipment, much less encourage recycling.
>
> As a result of modern machines containing non-volatile storage, many
> recyclers are (incorrectly) worried about liability issues resulting
> from old equipment getting into other's hands. The only simple rule
> is an absolute rule.
>
It's just like when you sell a house, if you don't take the furniture and
appliances with you, then the buyer now owns them, in addition to the
structure itself.
Michael J. Mahon
I was referring to the incorrect assumption that older machines contain
hard disks, which might potentially contain private information.
Now most people just assume that any computer contains a hard disk, and
they will frequently report that a garage sale Apple II "no longer boots
up", not realizing that its storage is most likely all external.
(Of course, if an Apple II system came with a bunch of floppies, then
they could contain some pretty sensitive info! ;-)