A3000 Seriously Serial?
Tony McKee
Tony's A3000 upgrade marches resolutely on. The CyberStormPPC card w/060 is
on the way.
Now, the modem. My beady eye is on a brand-new Diamond SupraExpress 56K ITU
V.90 data/fax/voice (external). For the last seven years, I've used a Supra
1440 data/fax (external) with the A3000. The great thing about Supras is
their easy set-up. Even though I read the docs for the Supra 1440, nothing
had to be changed from the day it was bought. My chubby wee paws took it
from its box, connected it to the serial port, and it's performed without a
glitch ever since. Great wee modem.
Since they are now relatively cheap, a faster one would be nice. Again, a
Supra. The specs for the Diamond SupraExpress 56K say a 'high-speed' serial
port is required. Currently, the A3's serial prefs are at their maximum
settings:
Baud Rate 31 250
Input Buffer Size: 65 536
These work fine for the Supra 1440, in conjunction with comms programs like
Term, IBrowse, GPFax, UUCP, etc.
I think the A3000's native serial port is fast enough for a higher speed
modem - but just in case things have changed since I last bought a modem,
and since I'm such an ignorant bastard - or at least have forgotten how much
I think I did know about all these things.... ;-)
...Is the A3000's serial port 'high-speed' enough for this new modem? Or do
I have to fork out for a high-spec serial card? If so, what would you
recommend?
Any advice welcome.
Cheers, Tony McKee
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Steven
>...Is the A3000's serial port 'high-speed' enough for this new modem?
Just try it and see :-), FWIW, it's possible to get Genesis to work well with,
Device, artser.device
Baud Rate, 115200
Buffer size, 16384
This works on a standard 030/25, so you should fine with your 060.
BTW, if it was a standard 030/25, your ROM may need to be moved to Fast RAM !
Regards,
Steven
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Daniel Penny
you can pick up a serial card (used usually fairly reasonably). most work
fine xcept the commodore a2232. this baby does not support rts/cts
protocols , but there is a mod to correct that on aminet. (I know it works
because I did it.)
Good luck with the project.
Dan
Tony...@xtra.co.nz (Tony McKee) wrote in
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zipperi
> port is required. Currently, the A3's serial prefs are at their
> maximum
> settings:
> speed modem
Most of the programs determine the port speed ignoring the ser prefs.
I use Miami at 115200 and did it even with my A500T, no problems as I
had a GFX card screen taking the load off the ECS chips in it. And a
060 procesor did help, too.
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Hi
Does most of the above apply to A4000 also?
Regards
Graham
redr...@my-deja.com
> Most of the programs determine the port speed ignoring the ser prefs.
> I use Miami at 115200 and did it even with my A500T, no problems as I
> had a GFX card screen taking the load off the ECS chips in it. And a
> 060 procesor did help, too.
060&GFX card A500? Neat! Which busboard did you use to get the A2000
accelerator slit?
BTW as you probably know(I'm just clarifying) the A3000 does not have
same serial port slowdown that all other models suffer. Before I had a
GFX card I used ECS in 16 color and had no slow down:-)
Jim
redr...@my-deja.com
have an available slot I would recomend it. I recently picked up a GVP
I/O Extender on eBay for $22. 2 (HIGH SPEED)Serial ports and a PC-style
Parallel port. Sweeet.
Jim
Patrick Bartek
> G'day, Folks.
>
> Tony's A3000 upgrade marches resolutely on. The CyberStormPPC card w/060 is
> on the way.
>
> Now, the modem. My beady eye is on a brand-new Diamond SupraExpress 56K ITU
> V.90 data/fax/voice (external). For the last seven years, I've used a Supra
> 1440 data/fax (external) with the A3000. The great thing about Supras is
> their easy set-up. Even though I read the docs for the Supra 1440, nothing
> had to be changed from the day it was bought. My chubby wee paws took it
> from its box, connected it to the serial port, and it's performed without a
> glitch ever since. Great wee modem.
>
> Since they are now relatively cheap, a faster one would be nice. Again, a
> Supra. The specs for the Diamond SupraExpress 56K say a 'high-speed' serial
> port is required. Currently, the A3's serial prefs are at their maximum
> settings:
>
> Baud Rate 31 250
> Input Buffer Size: 65 536
>
> These work fine for the Supra 1440, in conjunction with comms programs like
> Term, IBrowse, GPFax, UUCP, etc.
>
> I think the A3000's native serial port is fast enough for a higher speed
> modem - but just in case things have changed since I last bought a modem,
> and since I'm such an ignorant bastard - or at least have forgotten how much
> I think I did know about all these things.... ;-)
>
> ....Is the A3000's serial port 'high-speed' enough for this new modem? Or do
> I have to fork out for a high-spec serial card? If so, what would you
> recommend?
I found that even with a 28.8 modem I got faster downloads with a
"high-speed" serial port than with my unaccelerated 3000's native
serial port & serial device. Using a 3rd party serial device did
improve speed somewhat, but by adding a Multiface III cards, I got
better through-put and the computer's multitasking became smoother,
since the card handled the downloads and buffering leaving the CPU to
do other things.
You've installed an '060. Spend a few extra coins and get a high
speed serial card, too. You'll be glad you did.
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Mike Leavitt
> Hi Tony, bad news bud! the a3000 serial line will max out at 14.4, however
> you can pick up a serial card (used usually fairly reasonably). most work
> fine xcept the commodore a2232. this baby does not support rts/cts
> protocols , but there is a mod to correct that on aminet. (I know it works
> because I did it.)
> Good luck with the project.
> Dan
Odd, I'm getting 33.3 here on the native A3000 serial port. Using
Miami's internal device though, and I have an 060/50, and I get better
download rates than that with a 14.4k on my 030/25 as well.
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Tony McKee
news:3A0FD890.MD-...@pdai.com...
> > ....Is the A3000's serial port 'high-speed' enough for this new modem?
Or do
> > I have to fork out for a high-spec serial card? If so, what would you
> > recommend?
>
> I found that even with a 28.8 modem I got faster downloads with a
> "high-speed" serial port than with my unaccelerated 3000's native
> serial port & serial device. Using a 3rd party serial device did
> improve speed somewhat, but by adding a Multiface III cards, I got
> better through-put and the computer's multitasking became smoother,
> since the card handled the downloads and buffering leaving the CPU to
> do other things.
>
> You've installed an '060. Spend a few extra coins and get a high
> speed serial card, too. You'll be glad you did.
There was good feed-back on this one - thanks, Patrick, et al.
Well, I'm lookin' at serial cards now. There seem to be plenty to be had
second-hand. One new one I've been having a drool over is the IOBlix
ZII/ZIII. Not only does it have high-speed serial ports, but a
SANAII-compatible Ethernet-module. Serial ports. parallel ports, and
ethernet all on the one card. Almost sounds too good to be true!
Anyone got any experience with the IOBlix ZII/ZIII card?
Marcel DeVoe
If you don't have a graphics card it's supposed to depend on how many
colors you use on your workbench or whatever screen you may use. But even
before I got my CV64 I didn't have any real problem with my 56k USRobotics
modem.
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A4091scsi CV64 96 megs CDRW M1764-17" Catweasel FUSION/Emplant
A4000/060 CyberStorm MKII overclocked 66mhz - see "How to Overclock!"
and "DIY A4000 Tower for $45" @ http://www.shore.net/~mdevoe
zipperi
> > I use Miami at 115200 and did it even with my A500T, no problems as
I
> > had a GFX card screen taking the load off the ECS chips in it. And a
> > 060 procesor did help, too.
>
> 060&GFX card A500? Neat! Which busboard did you use to get the A2000
> accelerator slit?
Micronik made a tower for A500, too, with a similar ZII busboard to the
first A1200 tower busboards; it connects naturally to the side
expansion slot.
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zipper
Patrick Bartek
> "Patrick Bartek" <bar...@pdai.com> wrote in message
> news:3A0FD890.MD-...@pdai.com...
>
> > > ....Is the A3000's serial port 'high-speed' enough for this new modem?
> Or do
> > > I have to fork out for a high-spec serial card? If so, what would you
> > > recommend?
> >
> > I found that even with a 28.8 modem I got faster downloads with a
> > "high-speed" serial port than with my unaccelerated 3000's native
> > serial port & serial device. Using a 3rd party serial device did
> > improve speed somewhat, but by adding a Multiface III cards, I got
> > better through-put and the computer's multitasking became smoother,
> > since the card handled the downloads and buffering leaving the CPU to
> > do other things.
> >
> > You've installed an '060. Spend a few extra coins and get a high
> > speed serial card, too. You'll be glad you did.
>
> There was good feed-back on this one - thanks, Patrick, et al.
>
> Well, I'm lookin' at serial cards now. There seem to be plenty to be had
> second-hand. One new one I've been having a drool over is the IOBlix
> ZII/ZIII. Not only does it have high-speed serial ports, but a
> SANAII-compatible Ethernet-module. Serial ports. parallel ports, and
> ethernet all on the one card. Almost sounds too good to be true!
>
> Anyone got any experience with the IOBlix ZII/ZIII card?
Me? Unfortunately, no. But do you NEED ethernet? My MFCIII card has
two serial ports and a parallel port, and it comes with its own
high-speed drivers. I got it used for basically free as part of a
system I bought and later parted out for a profit. At the time (3
years ago), they were going for about $75 on the net. I saw one a
couple of weeks ago for about $35.
GVP also made a serial/parallel port card. I see them for sale
occassionally.
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Tony McKee
> > Well, I'm lookin' at serial cards now. There seem to be plenty to be had
> > second-hand. One new one I've been having a drool over is the IOBlix
> > ZII/ZIII. Not only does it have high-speed serial ports, but a
> > SANAII-compatible Ethernet-module. Serial ports. parallel ports, and
> > ethernet all on the one card. Almost sounds too good to be true!
> >
> > Anyone got any experience with the IOBlix ZII/ZIII card?
>
> Me? Unfortunately, no. But do you NEED ethernet?
Well... I could create a need! ;-) Where there's a way, there's a will, if
the will and the way be weighed! ;-) Yes, fast file swapping and mutual
directory accesses betwixt A3000 and Pentium could suit our purposes here. I
know there are other, less expensive ways; however the sheer convenience of
a local network is very enticing.
> My MFCIII card has
> two serial ports and a parallel port, and it comes with its own
> high-speed drivers. I got it used for basically free as part of a
> system I bought and later parted out for a profit. At the time (3
> years ago), they were going for about $75 on the net. I saw one a
> couple of weeks ago for about $35.
No doubt about it - there's some great bargains out there. I just may have
to get sensible about all this, too. What with the dough I've spent on the
miggy lately, Wifey will have me on a porridge diet for the next five years!
;-)
Patrick Bartek
> "Patrick Bartek" <bar...@pdai.com> wrote in message
> news:3A12B0BA.MD-...@pdai.com...
>
> > > Well, I'm lookin' at serial cards now. There seem to be plenty to be had
> > > second-hand. One new one I've been having a drool over is the IOBlix
> > > ZII/ZIII. Not only does it have high-speed serial ports, but a
> > > SANAII-compatible Ethernet-module. Serial ports. parallel ports, and
> > > ethernet all on the one card. Almost sounds too good to be true!
> > >
> > > Anyone got any experience with the IOBlix ZII/ZIII card?
> >
> > Me? Unfortunately, no. But do you NEED ethernet?
>
> Well... I could create a need! ;-) Where there's a way, there's a will, if
> the will and the way be weighed! ;-) Yes, fast file swapping and mutual
> directory accesses betwixt A3000 and Pentium could suit our purposes here. I
> know there are other, less expensive ways; however the sheer convenience of
> a local network is very enticing.
You can do a lot more with a LAN than just fast file swapping. Ever
looked into setting up Linux on one of your machines and using it as
a server? That's what I'm doing right now. It is showing promise for
a multi-user, multi-machine, home network.
> > My MFCIII card has
> > two serial ports and a parallel port, and it comes with its own
> > high-speed drivers. I got it used for basically free as part of a
> > system I bought and later parted out for a profit. At the time (3
> > years ago), they were going for about $75 on the net. I saw one a
> > couple of weeks ago for about $35.
>
> No doubt about it - there's some great bargains out there. I just may have
> to get sensible about all this, too. What with the dough I've spent on the
> miggy lately, Wifey will have me on a porridge diet for the next five years!
> ;-)
Just so long as she doesn't cut your beer ration, too.