I need FastFileSystem
James Stuart
Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
Workbench 3.0?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Neil Bothwick
James Stuart said,
> Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
> Workbench 3.0?
It's in the Kickstart 3.0 ROM (and the 2.04 one)
Neil
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In article <33DBFDDB.MD-...@enterprise.net>,
James Stuart <jst...@enterprise.net> wrote:
|Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
|Workbench 3.0?
|
It's in your Kickstart ROM, you don't need a copy...
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Joshua B. Helm
James Stuart wrote:
>
> Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
> Workbench 3.0?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> jst...@enterprise.net
The "file" version of the filesystem is on the "Extras" disk, in the 'L'
drawer I believe. This is the same FFS that is in the ROMs.
Hope that helps.
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Why the wierd crossposting?
This isn't about networking, neither about programming... :-/
> + On 28-Jul-97 23:49:44
> + Dennis Lee Bieber <wulf...@netcom.com> wrote
>On 28 Jul 1997 13:36:23 +0100, Lee Kindness
><lkin...@csl.co.ukspamspamspam.com> (Lee Kindness) declaimed the
>following in comp.sys.amiga.networking:
>> James Stuart <jst...@enterprise.net> writes:
>>
>> > Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
>> > Workbench 3.0?
>>
>> It's in the ROM!
> I suspect, but could be wrong, that the original poster is
>looking for a 3.x compatible FFS for installation in a boot sector to
>make the disk usable on a pre 3.x OS.
> I could be wrong of course.
1> version Install-disk-for-3.1:L/FastFileSystem FILE FULL
fs 40.1 (1993-02-15)
1> version Install-disk-for-3.0:L/FastFileSystem FILE FULL
fs 39.27 (1992-09-08)
I believe it is a somewhat limited FFS that doesn't _require_ 3.x-ROM (can it
be used with 1.x ROM?)
Note that The 3.0 Install disk didn't come with A1200s (at least not non-HD).
(Have a look at the url below to find a copy)
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In a message of 28 Jul 97 Neil Bothwick wrote to :
>> Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for Workbenc=
h
>> 3.0?
NB> It's in the Kickstart 3.0 ROM (and the 2.04 one)
When I installed my Zip drive recently, HDToolBox for some unknown reason
wanted FastFileSystem in my l: directory. I found it on my WB3.0 Install
disk as far as I remember, copied it to l: and reran HDToolBox.
Uffe Holst
Darren
James Stuart (jst...@enterprise.net) wrote:
: Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
: Workbench 3.0?
: Any help would be greatly appreciated.
There is a beta version on ftp.amiga.de
Darren
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Olaf Barthel
In Article <33DCC9...@esc.ie.lehigh.edu>, Joshua B. Helm <jb...@esc.ie.lehigh.edu> wrote:
> James Stuart wrote:
> >
> > Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
> > Workbench 3.0?
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
>
> The "file" version of the filesystem is on the "Extras" disk, in the 'L'
> drawer I believe. This is the same FFS that is in the ROMs.
Sorry to be nit-picky, but there is a slight difference in the ROM and
on-disk filing systems. There is some extra code in there which for the
original A3000 boot ROMs avoids validating disks. This allows the
bootstrap code to read the Kickstart file from WB_2.x:devs or WB_1.3:devs
without having to worry about the user having to answer filing system
error requesters.
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Neil Bothwick
Greg L. Kimnach said,
>>> Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
>>> Workbench 3.0?
>>
>>It's in the Kickstart 3.0 ROM (and the 2.04 one)
> i think that the confusion may arise from the following. when prepping a hd
> i've seen the following "paraphrased" message in all cases ( a2ks and 4ks
> with the respective g-force and warp engines) when the "format command" is
> issued: "unable to find ffs in directory l:, using ofs instead. proceed
> abort"
> ffs is missing on the hd prep software that comes with the accelerator.
It's missing from L:, but it doesn't matter. just hit Proceed.
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>James Stuart (jst...@enterprise.net) wrote:
>: Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
>: Workbench 3.0?
>: Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>There is a beta version on ftp.amiga.de
These betas are for Kickstart/Workbench 3.1 *ONLY*
>Darren
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Roberto Glez. Rocha
Lee Kindness wrote:
> James Stuart <jst...@enterprise.net> writes:
>
> > Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
> > Workbench 3.0?
>
> It's in the ROM!
No, isnt on the ROM, its on the RDB of the drive. It gets loaded every
time the
startup.
The FFS comes on the install disk of the WB distribution. If you want to
add a new
partion/drive to your system you must have it on the L: assignment. You
need it if you
want to update the one on your drive with a new one when you upgrade the
OS or got
a new version from Amiga International.
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Ron Flory
> James Stuart <jst...@enterprise.net> writes:
>
> > Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
> > Workbench 3.0?
>
> It's in the ROM!
It -is- present in 2.04 and 3.x kickstart roms, but is also provided
as a library in L: for RDB use (not really needed for most situations).
There is a paragraph on this in the docs somewhere that says 2.04+ can
boot a FFS floppy directly from rom, but older machines cannot. A hard
disk with FFS in the RDB would work either way...
ron
Mousky
On 28-Jul-97 20:31:01, Roberto Glez. Rocha (rro...@Finale-Dev.com) wrote:
>Lee Kindness wrote:
Hi Lee. How are you? I'm still using WangiPad. Excellent program.
>> James Stuart <jst...@enterprise.net> writes:
>>
>> > Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
>> > Workbench 3.0?
>>
>> It's in the ROM!
> No, isnt on the ROM, its on the RDB of the drive. It gets loaded every
>time the startup.
And the misinformation begins. The RDB does NOT contain a copy of
FastFileSystem. It simply contains, among other information, where to find
the FastFileSystem, is so required. If no reference is made to
L:fastfilesystem, then the one in ROM is used.
Also what you said above doesn't jive with what you say below.
>The FFS comes on the install disk of the WB distribution. If you want to
>add a new partion/drive to your system you must have it on the L:
>assignment. You need it if you want to update the one on your drive with
>a new one when you upgrade the OS or got a new version from Amiga
>International.
Oh really? I don't seem to have any FastFileSystem in L: and my Amiga loads
up just fine. Hmmm, let me pull out my trusty OS2.1 Software Upgrade
manual. Here is one reference on page 1-4:
"The FastFileSystem has been improved in both speed and reliability, and is
now in the ROM."
And from page 2-13:
"The fact that the FastFileSystem is now in ROM, rather than a handler in
the L: directory, has important implications for those upgrading to Release
2 from a 1.3 system. For the ROM filesystem to operate, references to
L:fastfilesystem should not be made.
There are two main areas from which to eliminate these references under
Release 2: MountLists and RigidDiskBlocks."
The only time you would point to L:fastfilesystem is when installing one of
the FFS Beta's available from AI or to maintain compatibility with OS1.3.
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Neil Bothwick
Mousky said,
>> No, isnt on the ROM, its on the RDB of the drive. It gets loaded every
>>time the startup.
> And the misinformation begins. The RDB does NOT contain a copy of
> FastFileSystem. It simply contains, among other information, where to find
> the FastFileSystem, is so required. If no reference is made to
> L:fastfilesystem, then the one in ROM is used.
So how does it load the filesystem from the drive without having the
filesystem first?
When you give the path to the filesystem in HDToolBox, it's saved onto
your RDB so the drive is then able to mount and access the partitions.
This is how you can also use custom filesystems, like AFS. I can
remove AFS from L: and my system will still boot because HDToolBox has
saved it to the RDB.
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Mousky (szy...@server.uwindsor.ca) wrote:
> And the misinformation begins. The RDB does NOT contain a copy of
> FastFileSystem.
Now you are telling a *misinformation* ... The RDB may contain the
amiga FastFileSystem.
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Gunther Nikl
> >> No, isnt on the ROM, its on the RDB of the drive. It gets loaded every
> >>time the startup.
> > And the misinformation begins. The RDB does NOT contain a copy of
> > FastFileSystem. It simply contains, among other information, where to find
> > the FastFileSystem, is so required. If no reference is made to
> > L:fastfilesystem, then the one in ROM is used.
> So how does it load the filesystem from the drive without having the
> filesystem first?
The RDB *may* contain the the FileSystem but it is *NOT* required to do
so. If the the RDB doesn't have a FileSystem the ROM filesystem is used.
(This applies for the amiga (Fast)FileSystem only!)
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Kenny
Mousky wrote:
>And the misinformation begins. The RDB does NOT contain a copy of
>FastFileSystem. It simply contains, among other information, where to find
As far as I have understood the filesystem is in the RDB if you want to
autoboot from that drive. Atleast this goes for custom filessystems like AFS
which is stored in the RDB. Anyway, what do you think the "update
filesystem" button in HDToolBox is for? I have the fastfile system on disk
in L: . I have an A4000 with kickstart 3.1.
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> + On 01-Aug-97 16:31:11
> + Neil Bothwick <ne...@wirenet.co.uk> wrote
>Mousky said,
>>> No, isnt on the ROM, its on the RDB of the drive. It gets loaded every
>>>time the startup.
>> And the misinformation begins. The RDB does NOT contain a copy of
>> FastFileSystem. It simply contains, among other information, where to find
>> the FastFileSystem, is so required. If no reference is made to
>> L:fastfilesystem, then the one in ROM is used.
>So how does it load the filesystem from the drive without having the
>filesystem first?
>When you give the path to the filesystem in HDToolBox, it's saved onto
>your RDB so the drive is then able to mount and access the partitions.
>This is how you can also use custom filesystems, like AFS. I can
>remove AFS from L: and my system will still boot because HDToolBox has
>saved it to the RDB.
And there IS a FastFilesystem in L: on the *INSTALL*-disk that comes with both
WB3.0 and 3.1. (I have both).
I have used both of them... no noticeable difference. Don't know if there is
any.
(IIRC someone said that the disk-based one was a Kickstart 1.3-compatible
[because it is RDB-able?], but I can't verify that)
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On 01-Aug-97 04:03:01, Mousky wrote the following about "Re: I need
FastFileSystem":
> On 28-Jul-97 20:31:01, Roberto Glez. Rocha (rro...@Finale-Dev.com) wrote:
>> No, isnt on the ROM, its on the RDB of the drive. It gets loaded every
>>time the startup.
> And the misinformation begins.
Yes, right below:
> The RDB does NOT contain a copy of
> FastFileSystem. It simply contains, among other information, where to find
> the FastFileSystem, is so required. If no reference is made to
> L:fastfilesystem, then the one in ROM is used.
It is not a reference but the actual file system code. The reason is simply
that without a file system, you can't read files from a disk.
Regards,
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Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On 29-Jul-97 02:31:01, Roberto Glez. Rocha wrote the following about "Re: I need
FastFileSystem":
> Lee Kindness wrote:
>> James Stuart <jst...@enterprise.net> writes:
>>
>> > Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
>> > Workbench 3.0?
>>
>> It's in the ROM!
> No, isnt on the ROM, its on the RDB of the drive. It gets loaded every
> time the startup.
FFS _is_ in ROM. The one you have in your RDB (if you have one there, that is)
is of course FFS 43.14.
(Hint: If you didn't have FFS in ROM, how would you boot from a floppy disk??
;-)
> The FFS comes on the install disk of the WB distribution. If you want to
> add a new partion/drive to your system you must have it on the L: assignment.
No, you don't. It is just the default location, you can put it wherever you
want. But you don't need to have it on disk at all if the ROM one is good
enough for you.
Regards,
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Nicholas Stallard
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen (ra...@kampsax.dtu.dk) had the following to say about "Re: I need FastFileSystem"
> FFS _is_ in ROM. The one you have in your RDB (if you have one there, that
> is) is of course FFS 43.14.
> (Hint: If you didn't have FFS in ROM, how would you boot from a floppy
> disk??
> ;-)
HINT: ever seen NDOS Disk? They don`t need FFS to boot up, they have their
own custom trackloader :) SCNR :)
Cya,
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In article <33DD39C4...@finale-dev.com>,
Roberto Glez. Rocha <rro...@Finale-Dev.com> wrote:
|Lee Kindness wrote:
|
|> James Stuart <jst...@enterprise.net> writes:
|>
|> > Does anybody know where I can get a copy of FastFileSystem for
|> > Workbench 3.0?
|>
|> It's in the ROM!
|
| No, isnt on the ROM, its on the RDB of the drive. It gets loaded every
|time the
|startup.
Nevertheless, it IS in the ROM.
Dummy!
;-)
|
|The FFS comes on the install disk of the WB distribution. If you want to
|add a new
|partion/drive to your system you must have it on the L: assignment. You
|need it if you
|want to update the one on your drive with a new one when you upgrade the
|OS or got
|a new version from Amiga International.
|_____
|Rocha
|
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