Broadband and networking
John Severinsen
Wondering if someone can offer some advice on broadband and networking.
I have an A4000 desktop (will upgrade to an elbox soon). I would like to move
my old dialup to broadband but not sure how to go about doing that. I'd also
like to network a couple of systems so both can access the internet through
the broadband connection. I'm not sure how to go about this though.
My guess is to buy a network card for my Amiga and a router so I can both
systems talking to one another. Then to connect the broadband internet
connection via the router. Is that how it would work? Any suggestions/advice
appreciated.
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John Severinsen
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<tsb>Thor 2.6a, 23-Nov-6 16:12:20
Did you ever wonder why kamikaze pilots wore helmets?
Tor Haltestad Qvale
> Hi all
> Wondering if someone can offer some advice on broadband and networking.
> I have an A4000 desktop (will upgrade to an elbox soon). I would like to move
> my old dialup to broadband but not sure how to go about doing that. I'd also
> like to network a couple of systems so both can access the internet through
> the broadband connection. I'm not sure how to go about this though.
> My guess is to buy a network card for my Amiga and a router so I can both
> systems talking to one another. Then to connect the broadband internet
> connection via the router. Is that how it would work? Any suggestions/advice
> appreciated.
Hi
It all depends on your ISP. I'm using ADSL2+ from a Norwegian ISP, and
they deliver a router which has five ethernet ports. My A4000 which has
a Xsurf ethernet card and the MiamiDX stack connects trouble free to the
Internet via it.But if I had chosen a ISP that used PPPoE DSL instead, I
would have to setup a PPPoE driver on my Amiga (MiamiDX includes PPPoE
support). But in that case, I would probably have bought a router with
PPPoE support to make life more simple. What technology does your future
ISP use? Which version of AmigaOS do you use?
Tor
Jerry Heyman
Severinsen) wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Wondering if someone can offer some advice on broadband and networking.
> I have an A4000 desktop (will upgrade to an elbox soon). I would like to
> move my old dialup to broadband but not sure how to go about doing that.
> I'd also like to network a couple of systems so both can access the
> internet through the broadband connection. I'm not sure how to go about
> this though.
I currently have a Mandriva Linux 2006, a Free BSD 6.1, a Windows XP SP2,
an iMac 10.4, and my trusty old Amiga A3000 (running AmigaOS 3.9) doing what
you describe.
> My guess is to buy a network card for my Amiga and a router so I can both
> systems talking to one another. Then to connect the broadband internet
> connection via the router. Is that how it would work? Any
> suggestions/advice appreciated.
Looks like you have the right idea. All my machines are on a non-routable
192.168.1.x address (they could all be DHCP, but that's more painful) and
the router (LinkSys brand) does NAT (Network Address Translation) so that
they all can talk to the internet.
You will definitely need some sort of Ethernet for your A4000. If you are
running AmigaOS 3.9, then you have the necessary TCP/IP stack already with
the OS (Genesis). If not, then you'll need to acquire either MiamiDX,
AmiTCP, or upgrade to AmigaOS 3.9. You'll also need to make sure that you
have the necessary SANA-II device driver for whatever ethernet card you get.
I'm using an A2065 with my A3000.
Lastly, if I remember correctly, there are no Amiga ethernet solutions that
do more than 10Mb. Since your broadband connection is generally less than
that, you won't see any issues going outside the home network, but you will
notice slow transfers to/from the Amiga to any other machines on the home
network.
Good luck!
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> <tsb>Thor 2.6a, 23-Nov-6 16:12:20
> Did you ever wonder why kamikaze pilots wore helmets?
jerry
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John Severinsen
Qvale wrote:
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>John Severinsen wrote:
>> Hi all
>> Wondering if someone can offer some advice on broadband and networking.
>> I have an A4000 desktop (will upgrade to an elbox soon). I would like to m
>> my old dialup to broadband but not sure how to go about doing that. I'd al
>> like to network a couple of systems so both can access the internet through
>> the broadband connection. I'm not sure how to go about this though.
>> My guess is to buy a network card for my Amiga and a router so I can both
>> systems talking to one another. Then to connect the broadband internet
>> connection via the router. Is that how it would work? Any suggestions/adv
>> appreciated.
>Hi
>It all depends on your ISP. I'm using ADSL2+ from a Norwegian ISP, and
>they deliver a router which has five ethernet ports. My A4000 which has
>a Xsurf ethernet card and the MiamiDX stack connects trouble free to the
>Internet via it.But if I had chosen a ISP that used PPPoE DSL instead, I
>would have to setup a PPPoE driver on my Amiga (MiamiDX includes PPPoE
>support). But in that case, I would probably have bought a router with
>PPPoE support to make life more simple. What technology does your future
>ISP use? Which version of AmigaOS do you use?
>Tor
Thanks to everyone for your replies.
I'm quite green when it comes to networking and was wondering where to get
started - nice to know that on a very basic level my thinking was right! :-)
I'll no doubt be posting lots when I start doing this.
A few details on my current system are:
Running OS3.9
68060 processor
85Mb RAM
NO ethernet card as yet
Is there anything I need to look out for with ethernet cards?
Looking at my providers web page, they offer broadband deals which include
routers. 1 is for a single computer only, the other 2 are for more than 1 -
D-LINK models DSL 504T and DSL G604T. The latter is a wireless one. Might be
nice but then I'd have to start worrying about security (don't want anyone
hijacking my connection!). Is wireless easy to setup and secure? Also, they
mention that the modems they supply are ADSL 2+ compatable, although I can't
find anything on their pages as to whether the connection is ADSL 2+ (and I
don't really know what it means anyway). It sounds quite similar to Tors
setup above.
Looking at the Elbox website, I notice that their mediator board (to allow the
use of PCI cards) would allow ethernet cards that run at 10/100Mb. Don't know
if anyones had any experience with those though but I was thinking that might
be a good way to go.
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John Severinsen
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<tsb>Thor 2.6a, 30-Nov-6 14:39:33
Mind over Matter: If you don't mind, it doesn't matter
Oliver N. Kühlwein
first of all it was not very useful that you quotet the sig-divider. A
decent newsclient cuts the text after it so I cannot quote _you_.
Anyway. There are not much ethernet cards out there for the amiga. X-
Surf (2) is most probably the one you can get the easiest. It is
expensive but reliable (mine works for years now). I don't know
anything about PCI-cards as I don't have PCI-slots in my Amiga. If they
are available you might go for that if they are cheaper.
ADSL2+ allows more speed on your connection. Here in germany you can
get 1, 2, 3, or 6 Mb/s lines with ADSL and 16 or 25 Mb/s with ADSL2+.
So even if your ISP has no ADSL2+ yet, it will offer them in the near
future. As there is practically no difference in costs between routers/
modems with or without ADSL2+ implementation you should take one with
to be prepared for the future.
Wireless lan isn't an option for big Amigas yet as far as I know. There
are only PCMCIA-cards for the A600 and A1200 that can handle this. If
you have a pimped A1200 you can get a wireless lan PCMCIA card for
about 30 Euro (ca. 40 US$) on ebay here. IIRC you can only switch to
the lower (now almost insecure) security level (WEP or WAP, I am always
confused about which is which) for wireless lan.
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Oliver
John Deker
Gaming Adapter plugged into an Ethernet port. I tested the setup with my
A2000 Ariadne card plugged into a D-Link DWL-G820 gaming adapter and using a
D-Link DI-524 router as the access point.
That specific gaming adapter provides both a browser interface and a telnet
interface for configuration. The telnet interface provides access to many
more settings than the browser interface.