Anyone done an "oneko" blanker?
Evan Kirchhoff
>Back when I worked on a SUN, I was very fond of 'oneko' -- a very
>well done animated cat that chased your mouse cursor around the screen
>[and went to sleep when you stopped moving the mouse].
>I was wondering if anyone has done anything like that for the Amiga.
>I have the original SUN code...
Yes, I have "Ameko", which (judging by the name) is an Amiga port of that
SUN progam. (Actually, the documentation says that it's meant to be a
copy of "Neko" for Windows, but that must be yet another version of the
same thing). I've only got the AGA version, but there is an ECS version
also. It must be on Aminet someplace...
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Evan Kirchhoff, kir...@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Jorg Schmidt
: In <2sj986$3...@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> kir...@cc.umanitoba.ca (Evan Kirchhoff) writes:
: >>I was wondering if anyone has done anything like that for the Amiga.
: >>I have the original SUN code...
We (MediaDesk) have just introduced DesktopMAGIC, a commercially developed
screen saver / system sound manager for the AMIGA ($39.95). 30 screen
saver modules are available now, but we are still looking for developers
who are willing to write cool new modules - and we are definetely
interested in "oneka"! So whoever is interested in publishing his very
own screen saver modules as an add-on to our product - contact me to
receive our freely distributable screen saver development kit.
DesktopMAGIC has already triggered a screen saver boom in Germany (known
there as MaxonMAGIC 2.0) and is ready to take over the U.S. now - this is
a good chance for creative programmers to enter the commercial arena.
Here's how to get in touch with us:
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Bernie Cosell
} In article <2sjl97...@edna.cc.swin.edu.au> 944...@edna.swin.edu.au (Douglas Jacob Richard Jackson) writes:
} >
} > There IS such a hack. It's called OMEKO (or some such) and performs in
} >very much the same way as you described. What this hack does is it opens
} >up a seperate window in which the cat resides. When you move the mouse,
} >the cat chases it and, if it runs into the border of its window, attempts
} >to scratch its way out. It also falls asleep if you dont move the mouse.
}
} The hack is called Ameko, and is available on Aminet,
Could you double check that? I just grep'ped through the aminet INDEX.Z
file and there is no such file [and I tried about every permutation
and alternate spelling I could think of].
} ... but I think the
} original poster was asking about a screen blanker or module that used
} this effect rather than the hack. Would make a nice blanker, though.
It is --- it is great fun to watch my wife's PC. But on the other hand,
I could survive with just something like Ameko. [but on the other other
hand, if oneko really has been AmigaDOS'ized, it would probably be VERY
easy to convert it to being a blanker!]
Anyhow, if someone could confirm the location of this on Aminet I'd
be appreciative!!
Thanks!
/Bernie\
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ber...@fantasyfarm.com
well done animated cat that chased your mouse cursor around the screen
noticed that More After Dark for the PC has a blanker module using
[it appears] the same basic animation: the cat chases a butterfly
around the screen.
I was wondering if anyone has done anything like that for the Amiga.
I have the original SUN code --- I had intended to do a blanker, but
the code is a mess and I can't quite puzzle out what is going on
[it is in _Japanese_ --- yes, the C is just C code, but the comments
are impossible].
If anyone is curious about taking a cut at it, I do have the SUN
'oneko' archive I could send to you...
Thanks
Douglas Jacob Richard Jackson
: Back when I worked on a SUN, I was very fond of 'oneko' -- a very
: well done animated cat that chased your mouse cursor around the screen
: [and went to sleep when you stopped moving the mouse]. I recently
: noticed that More After Dark for the PC has a blanker module using
: [it appears] the same basic animation: the cat chases a butterfly
: around the screen.
: I was wondering if anyone has done anything like that for the Amiga.
: I have the original SUN code --- I had intended to do a blanker, but
: the code is a mess and I can't quite puzzle out what is going on
: [it is in _Japanese_ --- yes, the C is just C code, but the comments
: are impossible].
There IS such a hack. It's called OMEKO (or some such) and performs in
very much the same way as you described. What this hack does is it opens
up a seperate window in which the cat resides. When you move the mouse,
the cat chases it and, if it runs into the border of its window, attempts
to scratch its way out. It also falls asleep if you dont move the mouse.
All in all, a very cute hack and it should be in any self respecting
public domain library.
D. Jackson, (a poor but honest student with low tastes)
"If you can read this, I haven't hit you hard enough."
-Lobo
Vaelber Saga Fan #1
Well, can someon confirm where this program is? Thanks..
Jyumu
Steve
>
>very much the same way as you described. What this hack does is it opens
>up a seperate window in which the cat resides. When you move the mouse,
>the cat chases it and, if it runs into the border of its window, attempts
>to scratch its way out. It also falls asleep if you dont move the mouse.
The hack is called Ameko, and is available on Aminet, but I think the
Chad Randall
: Jorg Schmidt (md...@netcom.com) wrote:
: : DesktopMAGIC has already triggered a screen saver boom in Germany (known
: : a good chance for creative programmers to enter the commercial arena.
: That thing is a hype, eats mem, makes noise, but doesn't actually
: blank the screen :-)
: --
I agree. I got the demo, and deleted it 15 minutes later after 5 crashes.
Hint. Next time make sure the demo works before letting people look at
it. First impressions are everything.
Markus Illenseer
: DesktopMAGIC has already triggered a screen saver boom in Germany (known
: a good chance for creative programmers to enter the commercial arena.
That thing is a hype, eats mem, makes noise, but doesn't actually
blank the screen :-)
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Pascal Eeftinck
VSF> In <2sj986$3...@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> kir...@cc.umanitoba.ca (Evan
VSF> Kirchhoff) writes:
>> In article <Cqqnv...@world.std.com> ber...@fantasyfarm.com writes:
>>> Back when I worked on a SUN, I was very fond of 'oneko' -- a very
>>> well done animated cat that chased your mouse cursor around the screen
>>> [and went to sleep when you stopped moving the mouse].
>>> I was wondering if anyone has done anything like that for the Amiga.
>>> I have the original SUN code...
>> Yes, I have "Ameko", which (judging by the name) is an Amiga port of that
>> SUN progam. (Actually, the documentation says that it's meant to be a
>> copy of "Neko" for Windows, but that must be yet another version of the
>> same thing). I've only got the AGA version, but there is an ECS version
>> also. It must be on Aminet someplace...
VSF> Well, can someon confirm where this program is?
Actually, it was on the "Amiga Computing" issue November 1993. I don't know
any sources other than that but E-Mail me directly if you want to receive it
directly from me, and I'll send both versions uuencoded to you. (I assume
it's freely distributable ;-) I could also post it here but that would make
some people flame about bandwidth, so I won't do that.
VSF> Thanks..
VSF> Jyumu
You're welcome.
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Jorg Schmidt
: Jorg Schmidt (md...@netcom.com) wrote:
: : DesktopMAGIC has already triggered a screen saver boom in Germany (known
: : there as MaxonMAGIC 2.0) and is ready to take over the U.S. now - this is
: : a good chance for creative programmers to enter the commercial arena.
: That thing is a hype,
At least it's not a hack. And besides of that, the Amiga could need some
hype...
: eats mem,
EITHER you want fancy animations accompanied by 8-track stereo music OR
you want a stripped down system and a plain screen saver... you can't
have it both ways, there is no free lunch!
And DesktopMAGIC offers you many ways to save memory: Select a
not-so-fancy screen saver, leave out sound and music and keep the system
sounds on disk insted on RAM. It is YOUR choice how much RAM DesktopMAGIC
takes. If you like to display 200K ANIM files, you're free to do so -
that's what the new MyAnimation module is for... If you're satsified with
a still picture, you can do that too - and save memory!
: makes noise,
That's what it is (partly) for!
What if you find quiet screen savers boring?
What if you need an acoustic reminder when your rendering program has
finished your last 3D scene?
What if you need an alarm at 1:40 pm because you have an appointment at 2:00?
What if you need touch tones on your numeric keypad to easily dial phone
numbers with your AMIGA?
How about assigning a bunch of IFF sounds to the function keys to trigger
sounds for dubbing a video production?
What if you need a key klicking sound in your terminal program because
your online service is so slow that you are never shure if you actually
pressed the last key or not?
What about a bell sound every time your compiler reports a sentence like
"error in line ..." into the shell? What if you need to know acoustically
that the whole compilation is complete?
What if you just want to have some fun using the AMIGA? How would you like
the system warning messages accompanied by a Star-Trek alarm sound? Or a
typwriter-style sound on your keyboard?
All that and more can be done with DesktopMAGIC (= U.S. version of
MaxonMAGIC 2.0)! If this is not worth $39.95, you are probably not in
need for any of the above applications...
but doesn't actually
: blank the screen :-)
Not true. For you fans of plain screen saver modules out there, we
incorporated "Blackscreen" - it blanks the screen, and does nothing else.
Doesn't consume memory, no animation, doesn't eat up system time.
"Blackscreen" is the mother of all DesktopMAGIC screen saver modules, and
the source code is included in the upcoming DesktopMAGIC/MaxonMAGIC
developer kit (Developer kit and new demo soon on Aminet and our very own
FTP-Site ftp.netcom.com in /ftp/pub/mdesk).
: Markus Illenseer
Jorg Schmidt
: Markus Illenseer (mar...@TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) wrote:
: : Jorg Schmidt (md...@netcom.com) wrote:
: : : DesktopMAGIC has already triggered a screen saver boom in Germany (known
: : : there as MaxonMAGIC 2.0) and is ready to take over the U.S. now - this is
: : : a good chance for creative programmers to enter the commercial arena.
: : That thing is a hype, eats mem, makes noise, but doesn't actually
: : blank the screen :-)
: : --
: I agree. I got the demo, and deleted it 15 minutes later after 5 crashes.
We're talking about DesktopMAGIC, which is the U.S. version of MaxonMAGIC
2.0. MaxonMAGIC 1.0 has never been published in the U.S., so you better
wait for the DesktopMAGIC demo, before throwing dirt around you on an
INTERNATIONAL level. Why don't you download the DesktopMAGIC demo from
Aminet or our own FTP site (ftp.netcom.com in /ftp/pub/mdesk) and make up
your mind before making such statements? (available by the end of next week).
And consider this: The beauty of a version 2.0 of anything is, that there
is a great chance that we might have fixed any reported problems... And
again: Version 1.0 of MaxonMAGIC has never had any relevance for the U.S.
market - U.S. customers will see only 2.0 in the stores, and you should at
least wait until the demo is out, shouldn't you?
: Hint. Next time make sure the demo works before letting people look at
: it. First impressions are everything.
Your irony is very unappropriate. There are people who try to make a
living on providing this product to the Amiga market. You are destructing
a new U.S. software vendor for the Amiga even before you have seen one of
our products. I think that's NOT what the Amiga needs these days.
Markus Illenseer
: Take it easy,
You got paid for this advertisement?
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Markus Illenseer
: Your irony is very unappropriate. There are people who try to make a
: a new U.S. software vendor for the Amiga even before you have seen one of
: our products. I think that's NOT what the Amiga needs these days.
With your postings, you haven't light the candle yet.
Should we kneel before you and praise you for a stunning, fancy and
lightning (and useless :-) piece of software for the Amiga?
And, do me a favor please - leave this 'Maxon vs. Mdesk' flame bait
outa here, we're not interested in it, and it sure won't help you selling
your stuff on this side of the atlantic.
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Markus Illenseer
Thomas Boerkel
In a message of 05-Jun-94 Jorg Schmidt wrote:
[Desktop Magic]
JS> Your irony is very unappropriate. There are people who try to make a
JS> living on providing this product to the Amiga market. You are
JS> destructing
JS> a new U.S. software vendor for the Amiga even before you have seen one
JS> of our products. I think that's NOT what the Amiga needs these days.
Do you think, the Amiga needs a COMMERCIAL *screenblanker* these
days?
I don`t. There are enough freeware/shareware screenblankers out there
for the Amiga.
Why don`t you program/distribute business software or something like
that?
Bye,
Thomas
Jorg Schmidt
: Hi Jorg !
: [Desktop Magic]
: Do you think, the Amiga needs a COMMERCIAL *screenblanker* these
: days?
If you mean our customers, they love it. Partly because it is what they
have been missing for so long (a well-made AfterDark-style screen saver,
cobined with a system sound manager), partly because it is so new,
colorful and positive - contrary to all the sadness about the state of
Commodore and the Amiga.
if you mean the Amiga in General, I would say: I'm not shure if the
Mac/Windows platform boom benefitted AfterDark more than AfterDark has
benefitted the Mac/Windows platform... The flying toasters are a kind of
household name around the world now. I've talked to people who can't tell
a Mac and a PC apart, however they DO know the Aquarium and the
Flying Toasters.
: I don`t. There are enough freeware/shareware screenblankers out there
: for the Amiga.
Let the market decide. Have a look at the limited-feature-version of
DesktopMAGIC on our FTP site and decide for yourself, if the fulll-package
is worth $39.95.
: Why don`t you program/distribute business software or something like
: that?
One Project at a time. There's a lot of good German software that has not
been published in the U.S. so far (Cinema4D, MaxonCAD)...
: Bye,
: Thomas
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now available via FTP on Aminet:
ftp to: ftp.wustl.edu (or the Aminet ftp site near you)
file: pub/aminet/util/blank/DesktopMAGIC.lha
Sometimes it's hard to get through on aminet, so you can as well
check into our own ftp site (see signature).
If you don't know how to FTP, please refer to the FTP FAQ posted
regularly in the AMIGA newsgroups, or send me e-mail.
If you can't FTP or you're not shure, please send me e-mail, and you will
receive the release at no charge.
Thomas Boerkel
In a message of 20-Jun-94 Jorg Schmidt wrote:
JS> Addendum: The freely distributable version of DesktopMAGIC is now
JS> available via FTP on Aminet:
Didn`t you tell me, that this is a newer version of MaxonMagic?
I couldn`t find a difference. It has the same annoying lacks as
the older version.
Bye,
Thomas
Jorg Schmidt
: Hi Jorg !
: JS> Addendum: The freely distributable version of DesktopMAGIC is now
: JS> available via FTP on Aminet:
: Didn`t you tell me, that this is a newer version of MaxonMagic?
: I couldn`t find a difference. It has the same annoying lacks as
: the older version.
What lacks? Please be more specific! I'm all for critizising
constructively, but please don't put our product down without any proof,
just referring to some mysterious "lacks". If you are referring to an
older thread, please re-post what you have in mind, because in that case,
most people who read this (including myself) probably won't remember what
you are refering to.
If you are missing certain features, why don't you tell us so, and there
is a real chance that the problem gets fixed. And, if YOU are mising
certain features, that doesn't mean OTHERS may not be happy with our product.
: Bye,
: Thomas