What is the best graphics card for A3000
GbyTheSea
What is the best graphics card for an Amiga 3000. Looking at
price/performance/ and compatability.....
Is the Retina still made??
Have been out the Amiga scene for several years....
-Greg
Mike Hartigan
GbyTheSea (gbyt...@aol.com) wrote:
: What is the best graphics card for an Amiga 3000. Looking at
: price/performance/ and compatability.....
It's a collection of trade-offs, in many respects. I got a second hand
Spectrum a year or so ago for $150. It's not blazingly fast, but it's
more than adequate for my needs. I have a 600x800 256-color Workbench
using CyberGFX. (My perception of) its performance is marginally
better than the 730-ish x 470-ish 8 color Workbench that I had been using
for the previous 6 years. I run Voyager and/or Ibrowse (depending on my
mood) at 600x800 64k colors. Although the display is a bit slower
than 256 colors (though not by much), the modem is the bottleneck
here, so speed is not really an issue. 24 bit screens (I can't get much
higher than 750x550 with my monitor) are a BIT slower and look superb, but
64k is more than adequate for the Web. Still photos at 24 bits are not to
be believed! I believe that the speed of the card, in my case, is
somewhat limited by the speed of my A3000 (16MHz).
The price/performance ratio for this is tough to beat, for MY needs. If
you're looking for something a little more up-to-date, the Cybervision 64
I believe can be had for less than $300, and is, arguably, the best deal
out there, all things considered. (no flames from PicassoIV owners,
please)
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Chr...@dcandy.demon.co.uk
On 02-Jul-97 05:37:11 GbyTheSea wrote
>price/performance/ and compatability.....
>Is the Retina still made??
Not as far as I know.
>Have been out the Amiga scene for several years....
>-Greg
I have a PicassoIV and it's fantastic, but I'm using an A4000 and taking
advantage of the Picasso's built in scan-doubler/flicker fixer to drive
an SVGA monitor. As you have an A3000 you already have a scan-doubler
so a better buy for you would probably be the Cybervision64, having
said that you would need to unplug your monitor from the gfx card
and plug it into the 3000's native video output if and when you wanted to
use PAL and NTSC modes on a 31kHz SVGA type monitor.
Chris Longley
Amiga 4000/030/25 (doh) 18mb RAM, LiteOn LTN262 16x ATAPI CD-ROM,
PicassoIV, AT&T 17" D1752L Monitor, Tocatta 16 bit sound card,
Hayes Accura 288 Message Modem, Maxtor 325mb IDE HDD.
Stephan Splitthoff
>What is the best graphics card for an Amiga 3000. Looking at
>price/performance/ and compatability.....
>Is the Retina still made??
I do not konow. But if you buy a Retina do not buy the Z2 ;-)
If you want a very good and cheap card I would prefer the Cybervision64 (not
the new 3D).
If you want to investigate some more get the PicassoIV, it is a great board
;-)
>Have been out the Amiga scene for several years....
>-Greg
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Mike Hartigan
Chr...@dcandy.demon.co.uk wrote:
: I have a PicassoIV and it's fantastic, but I'm using an A4000 and taking
: advantage of the Picasso's built in scan-doubler/flicker fixer to drive
: an SVGA monitor. As you have an A3000 you already have a scan-doubler
: so a better buy for you would probably be the Cybervision64, having
: said that you would need to unplug your monitor from the gfx card
: and plug it into the 3000's native video output if and when you wanted to
: use PAL and NTSC modes on a 31kHz SVGA type monitor.
Is this true??? My Spectrum 28/24 has a pass-through so there is no need
to do this. The other option would be to get a VGA (15-pin) switchbox.
But be sure to keep the cables as short as possible, and make sure all of
the connections are tight, or you'll see ghosts ;-)
Michael Lillie
Hello ChrisL!
ChrisL had mumbled something about `Re: Best GFX Card.'
On 02-Jul-97 03:37:57.
> I have a PicassoIV and it's fantastic, but I'm using an A4000 and taking
> advantage of the Picasso's built in scan-doubler/flicker fixer to drive
> an SVGA monitor. As you have an A3000 you already have a scan-doubler
> so a better buy for you would probably be the Cybervision64, having
> said that you would need to unplug your monitor from the gfx card
> and plug it into the 3000's native video output if and when you wanted to
> use PAL and NTSC modes on a 31kHz SVGA type monitor.
Well, if he finds a CV64 it has a pass through like the Picasso II(+), but if he got the CV64/3D then he'd have to change like that. The Picasso IV with FF can be used in a 3000 and 2000 too BTW.
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Swiftshadow
> GbyTheSea (gbyt...@aol.com) wrote:
> : What is the best graphics card for an Amiga 3000. Looking at
> : price/performance/ and compatability.....
>
> Spectrum a year or so ago for $150. It's not blazingly fast, but it's
> more than adequate for my needs. I have a 600x800 256-color Workbench
> using CyberGFX. (My perception of) its performance is marginally
> better than the 730-ish x 470-ish 8 color Workbench that I had been using
> for the previous 6 years. I run Voyager and/or Ibrowse (depending on my
> mood) at 600x800 64k colors. Although the display is a bit slower
> than 256 colors (though not by much), the modem is the bottleneck
> here, so speed is not really an issue. 24 bit screens (I can't get much
> higher than 750x550 with my monitor) are a BIT slower and look superb, but
> 64k is more than adequate for the Web. Still photos at 24 bits are not to
> be believed! I believe that the speed of the card, in my case, is
> somewhat limited by the speed of my A3000 (16MHz).
I would like to second that opinion about the Spectrum. I have one for
my A3000 and I after getting it I haven't looked back. The Spectrum is
one the cards from the older generation of cards so its not quite as
fast as the CyberVision64 or 3D or the Picasso 96. But it is fast
enough for most daily tasks and comming from ECS days it is lightning
fast to me. In a card for the A3000 I would look for 2 basic things to
deferentiate it from other cards.
1) Zorro III. It does make a difference. This includes Spectrum, the
CyberVision64/3Ð, the Picasso 96, Retina ZIII and I think Picollo
SD64.
2) Video pass through. The hardware is already there in your A3000 so
you might as well use it. Pass through cards include the Spectrum,
CyberVision64, Picasso II and Piccolo SD/64 (I think).
I don't know much about the SD64. If it was up to me it would be a
toss up between the CyberVision64 and the Spectrum. It would all come
down to how much money you can spend and what kind of performance you
want.
> The price/performance ratio for this is tough to beat, for MY needs. If
> you're looking for something a little more up-to-date, the Cybervision 64
> I believe can be had for less than $300, and is, arguably, the best deal
> out there, all things considered. (no flames from PicassoIV owners,
> please)
Swiftshadow
Joern Plewka
spl...@air.gt.owl.de (Stephan Splitthoff) -> "Re: What is the best graphics card for A3000"
(02.07.1997)
> >What is the best graphics card for an Amiga 3000. Looking at
> >price/performance/ and compatability.....
>
>
> I do not konow. But if you buy a Retina do not buy the Z2 ;-)
> If you want a very good and cheap card I would prefer the Cybervision64 (not
> the new 3D).
you care about that. For A4000(T) the PicassoIV is much better because of
the very nice "scanchanger" (better flickerfixer).
It`s not required at A3000(T) and Cybervision64 was cheaper.
You could try to get a 3D and offer them for a Cyber64...good deal.
> If you want to investigate some more get the PicassoIV, it is a great board
> ;-)
> >Have been out the Amiga scene for several years....
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GbyTheSea
>>
Chr...@dcandy.demon.co.uk wrote:
: I have a PicassoIV and it's fantastic, but I'm using an A4000 and taking
: advantage of the Picasso's built in scan-doubler/flicker fixer to drive
: an SVGA monitor. As you have an A3000 you already have a scan-doubler
: so a better buy for you would probably be the Cybervision64, having
: said that you would need to unplug your monitor from the gfx card
: and plug it into the 3000's native video output if and when you wanted
to
: use PAL and NTSC modes on a 31kHz SVGA type monitor.
Is this true??? My Spectrum 28/24 has a pass-through so there is no need
to do this. The other option would be to get a VGA (15-pin) switchbox.
But be sure to keep the cables as short as possible, and make sure all of
the connections are tight, or you'll see ghosts ;-)
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From the information I have recieved so far it seems the Cyber 64 or the
GVP Spectrum are the best cards avaialble. Is the GVP Spectrum still
available?? Is the card Zorro III??
-Greg Wilkerson