Burn a A500/600/2000 Kickstart PROM
Adrian
what was necessary ?
Adrian
Patrick Ford
> Has anybody burnt a Kickstart for A500/600/2000 on his own, if yes what
>
> what was necessary ?
A blank ROM or EPROM might be the first requirement. Since they cost more
than an Amiga ROM, why would anyone want to burn their own? Have you
modified the software?
(In case anyone is confused about what is software and what is hardware,
the physical ROM is hardware and the code wich is written to a ROM is
SOFTWARE.)
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with the real ROMS.
All you need to do is supply the *WE signal and you can reprogram the things
in-system with the appropriate software.
Leslie
Adrian <adi...@germanynet.de> wrote in message
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Marcel DeVoe
> Use a FlashROM instead: 29F400 (40 pin DIP version) is pin compatible
> with the real ROMS.
> All you need to do is supply the *WE signal and you can reprogram the things
> in-system
In-System? You mean in-the-Amiga?
> with the appropriate software.
What appropriate software? On Aminet?
> Adrian <adi...@germanynet.de> wrote in message
> news:99ih8s$cpc$1...@newsread2.nexgo.de...
>> Has anybody burnt a Kickstart for A500/600/2000 on his own, if yes what
>>
>> what was necessary ?
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>>
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<lay...@intercoast.com.au> wrote:
>Use a FlashROM instead: 29F400 (40 pin DIP version) is pin compatible
>with the real ROMS.
>
>All you need to do is supply the *WE signal and you can reprogram the things
>in-system with the appropriate software.
So you mean, like enable writing and just copy the contents to the address
where they're located? (oversimplified)
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Marcel DeVoe <mde...@shore.net> wrote in message
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> Leslie Ayling <lay...@intercoast.com.au> wrote:
> > Use a FlashROM instead: 29F400 (40 pin DIP version) is pin compatible
> > with the real ROMS.
>
> > All you need to do is supply the *WE signal and you can reprogram the
things
> > in-system
>
> In-System? You mean in-the-Amiga?
>
> > with the appropriate software.
>
> What appropriate software? On Aminet?
>
Hi Marcel and Ville,
To reply to both your questions:
It is quite feasible to use FlashROMs on the A1200 Motherboard.
29F400's are pin compatible with the real roms, with the exception of
the *WE pin.
You will need to get a friend with a programmer unit that can handle
29F400 chips to initially program KS into your chips, or you can make up
an adaptor board to plug into your Amiga to do the same thing.
Once they are programmed and installed in the machine they can easily be
re-programmed while they are in-system.
The algorithms used to program the chips are readily available on
AMD's website at : www.amd.com
It is a trivial matter to convert these routines for use on the amiga:
(This is a simplification of the code required, not a verbatim code
fragment.)
ULONG *PTR=0;
ULONG *Romspace=$F80000;
Workspace=Allocmem($800000);
Open(kickstartfile);
Read(kickstartfile, Workspace, $800000);
PTR=&Workspace;
Disable(); /* turn off interrupts */
/* do the following code $200000 times since we are writing 4 bytes at a
time*/
/*Programlong(source,dest) from AMD algorithms*/
ProgramLong(*PTR++,*Romspace++);
JMP $FC0000
to re-boot the system when you have finished the loop, since the FlashROM
has now been programmed.
If you use a 29F800 pair, you can have the extra 512K space available
at $E00000-$E7FFFF to use for storing your favourite resident modules.
There is also hardware support built into the A1200 motherboard for
older Flashroms which require 12V to program. The schematics in the
A1200 techmanual show a 28F010 variation of the motherboard.
Hope this helps,
Leslie
Marcel DeVoe
> Hi Marcel and Ville,
> To reply to both your questions:
> It is quite feasible to use FlashROMs on the A1200 Motherboard.
> 29F400's are pin compatible with the real roms, with the exception of
> the *WE pin.
> You will need to get a friend with a programmer unit that can handle
> 29F400 chips to initially program KS into your chips, or you can make up
> an adaptor board to plug into your Amiga to do the same thing.
> Once they are programmed and installed in the machine they can easily be
> re-programmed while they are in-system.
> The algorithms used to program the chips are readily available on
> AMD's website at : www.amd.com
> It is a trivial matter to convert these routines for use on the amiga:
> (This is a simplification of the code required, not a verbatim code
> fragment.)
[snip: some code]
> There is also hardware support built into the A1200 motherboard for
> older Flashroms which require 12V to program. The schematics in the
> A1200 techmanual show a 28F010 variation of the motherboard.
I donno guy, this sounds a whole lot easier said than done.
Even if this could be done on the A1200, what about the other Amigas?
Jens Shoenfeld of Individual Computers has already made a prototype of a
flashable rom chip. You can check it out at,
But his was a whole add-on card with circuitry you plugged into the rom
socket. Your solution (other than initially finding an eprogrammer
workstation) just sounds way too simplistic.
Jens has had his card ready to go for some time now, but ran into legal
problems with Amiga Inc.
Leslie Ayling
>
> I donno guy, this sounds a whole lot easier said than done.
> Even if this could be done on the A1200, what about the other Amigas?
>
> Jens Shoenfeld of Individual Computers has already made a prototype of a
> flashable rom chip. You can check it out at,
>
> http://www.jschoenfeld.de/
>
> But his was a whole add-on card with circuitry you plugged into the rom
> socket. Your solution (other than initially finding an eprogrammer
> workstation) just sounds way too simplistic.
>
> Jens has had his card ready to go for some time now, but ran into legal
> problems with Amiga Inc.
>
Hi Marcel,
It really is that easy. I have been playing with Fashroms for quite a number
of
years.
Check out the following link:
http://members.theglobe.com/Redskull1/flashrom/flashrom.html
Not Amiga related, it is a FlashROM programmer/disk emulator I designed
and built to suit the Apple][. Many of the principles of the design are the
same on the Amiga, although we are using MUCH bigger capacity
FlashROMs that are configured as 32 bits wide.
As far as doing the same thing on other Amigas, there is no problem in
plugging
29F400's (or 800's) into the ROM sockets on ANY of the other Amigas.
As I said before, the only signal you have to furnish is *WE, which is not
present on the Rom sockets.
I have read about Jens board, and seen his website. The reason for the extra
circuitry presumably is to allow you initially to re-locate the addressing
for
the FlashROMs to allow you to copy the contents of your existing Kickstart.
(Probably why Amiga Inc. are none to pleased with him.) This is what I was
referring to in my previous post about programming the chips initially
before
you install them. Naturally there is no way to initially program them in the
system without having access to the real KS roms aswell.
Once they are programmed and installed, they can be re-programmed in-system.
The BlizzardPPC cards do exactly that to update their on-board library
software.
Leslie
Marcel Devoe
LA>
LA> Marcel DeVoe <mde...@shore.net> wrote in message
LA> news:WFFv6.847$xf1....@news.shore.net...
LA> >
LA> > I donno guy, this sounds a whole lot easier said than done.
LA> > Even if this could be done on the A1200, what about the other Amigas?
LA>
LA> It really is that easy. I have been playing with Fashroms for quite a number
LA> of years.
LA>
LA> Check out the following link:
LA> http://members.theglobe.com/Redskull1/flashrom/flashrom.html
Hmm, IBrowse wouldn't display it, but AWebSE did. ;)
LA> Not Amiga related, it is a FlashROM programmer/disk emulator I designed
LA> and built to suit the Apple][. Many of the principles of the design are the
LA> same on the Amiga, although we are using MUCH bigger capacity
LA> FlashROMs that are configured as 32 bits wide.
LA>
LA> As far as doing the same thing on other Amigas, there is no problem in
LA> plugging
LA> 29F400's (or 800's) into the ROM sockets on ANY of the other Amigas.
LA> As I said before, the only signal you have to furnish is *WE, which is not
LA> present on the Rom sockets.
Yes but you said it could be accessed via the A1200's clock port,
which is lacking in the other Amigas.
LA> I have read about Jens board, and seen his website. The reason for the extra
LA> circuitry presumably is to allow you initially to re-locate the addressing
LA> for
LA> the FlashROMs to allow you to copy the contents of your existing Kickstart.
LA> (Probably why Amiga Inc. are none to pleased with him.)
I personally don't see why that would be a problem with Amiga Inc.
Since we *own* the roms and it doesn't look like they are about to
produce new ones to plug into our systems, yet they provide updates
for us to re-programmed the kickstart file...
It all seems very silly. I don't see why they WOULDN'T allow it.
I'm wondering now if Jens has just gotten too busy to bother.
It's been a year since he introduced the page.
LA> This is what I was
LA> referring to in my previous post about programming the chips initially
LA> before
LA> you install them. Naturally there is no way to initially program them in the
LA> system without having access to the real KS roms aswell.
Yes, but getting to a programming station for most of us would be even
more difficult. Doing it Jens' way is more feasable, abeit more
difficult and expensive for the type of board needed.
LA> Once they are programmed and installed, they can be re-programmed in-system.
LA> The BlizzardPPC cards do exactly that to update their on-board library
LA> software.
Since you say you've already done it once, have you considered trying it yourself for /your/ Amiga?
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Hi Marcel,
Marcel Devoe <mde...@NoSpam.shore.net> wrote in message
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> LA> Check out the following link:
> LA> http://members.theglobe.com/Redskull1/flashrom/flashrom.html
>
>
> Hmm, IBrowse wouldn't display it, but AWebSE did. ;)
Very odd. No special HTML on that page as you saw.
>
> Yes but you said it could be accessed via the A1200's clock port,
> which is lacking in the other Amigas.
I never said anything about the clock port. The Flashroms plug into
the Kickstart sockets.
> I personally don't see why that would be a problem with Amiga Inc.
> Since we *own* the roms and it doesn't look like they are about to
> produce new ones to plug into our systems, yet they provide updates
> for us to re-programmed the kickstart file...
>
> It all seems very silly. I don't see why they WOULDN'T allow it.
> I'm wondering now if Jens has just gotten too busy to bother.
> It's been a year since he introduced the page.
Trivial, I agree. But technically it then means that you have two sets
of the Kickstart ROM, but you have only paid for one.
>
> Yes, but getting to a programming station for most of us would be even
> more difficult. Doing it Jens' way is more feasable, abeit more
> difficult and expensive for the type of board needed.
I agree. Having dual roms/Flashroms (switch selectable) is best. This is
what
I was suggesting when I mentioned building an adapter to allow the FlashROMS
to be initially programmed.
> Since you say you've already done it once, have you considered trying it
yourself for /your/ Amiga?
I built one for my last A1200 which was stolen (sob!) in a house break-in a
couple of years ago. It used 2x pin DIL sockets for the Kickstart chips, and
2 PLCC sockets which contained 2x29F800 chips. A switch selected either
the real KS chips, or the FlashROMS. When you use 1MB chips, the area
from $E00000-$E7FFFF is available for programming.
The operating system scans this area when it first initializes the system,
looking
for any resident modules,librarys,devices etc. It's a good place to store
all
you most commonly used stuff, plus it cuts your booting time to a minimum.
Since it's Flash, you can always update it if/when a new version of your
favourite
is released.
Easiest way to prepare a file for program is to use Devpac3 with the
following code.
section data,data
incbin "myspecial.device"
incbin "rtg.library"
incbin "cybergfx.library"
..etc,etc.
The resultant executable file can just be sent straight to the extra 512k
space ($E00000
-$E7FFFF) and the libs/devices/etc. are in the liblist before workbench is
loaded!
I still have the circuit diagram if you are interested in builing one, but
the software
was on the machine that was stolen, and I didn't have a backup. Could always
re-do
it if necessary.
Hope this is useful,
Leslie
Ville Jouppi
<lay...@intercoast.com.au> wrote:
>
>I still have the circuit diagram if you are interested in builing one, but
>the software
>was on the machine that was stolen, and I didn't have a backup. Could always
>re-do
>it if necessary.
If you could do this, and upload the stuff to Aminet, I'm sure you'd make the
top ten in no time.. :-)
Leslie Ayling
Ville Jouppi <vjo...@sci.fi> wrote in message
news:9if3cts9qm8054529...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:08:08 +1000, "Leslie Ayling"
> <lay...@intercoast.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> If you could do this, and upload the stuff to Aminet, I'm sure you'd make
the
> top ten in no time.. :-)
Other stuff that I have uploaded to Aminet/hard/hack over the years has
attracted
no comment whatsoever.
Few people seem keen these days to wan't to experiment with hardware.
Besides, one of my programs is already top-ten at the moment haha!
dev/mui/muimaster020.lha
68020+ patch program for MUI3.8.
Leslie
Ville Jouppi
<lay...@intercoast.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>Ville Jouppi <vjo...@sci.fi> wrote in message
>news:9if3cts9qm8054529...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:08:08 +1000, "Leslie Ayling"
>> <lay...@intercoast.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>> If you could do this, and upload the stuff to Aminet, I'm sure you'd make
>the
>> top ten in no time.. :-)
>
>Other stuff that I have uploaded to Aminet/hard/hack over the years has
>attracted
>no comment whatsoever.
>
>Few people seem keen these days to wan't to experiment with hardware.
It's a pity.. :-) Then again, Amigas are getting scarce - not too many are
willing to take the risk.
>Besides, one of my programs is already top-ten at the moment haha!
>dev/mui/muimaster020.lha
>68020+ patch program for MUI3.8.
Hehe.. :-)
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+Adrian <adi...@germanynet.de> wrote
>Has anybody burnt a Kickstart for A500/600/2000 on his own, if yes what
>what was necessary ?
One blank EPROM, the kickfile and a EPROM-Burnet caplable of the EPROM model.
..but since only the EPROM cost more than a real 3.1 ROM..
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+Leslie Ayling <lay...@intercoast.com.au> wrote
>Ville Jouppi <vjo...@sci.fi> wrote in message
>news:9if3cts9qm8054529...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:08:08 +1000, "Leslie Ayling"
>> <lay...@intercoast.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>> If you could do this, and upload the stuff to Aminet, I'm sure you'd make
>> the top ten in no time.. :-)
>Other stuff that I have uploaded to Aminet/hard/hack over the years has
>attracted no comment whatsoever.
What kind of projects was it ?
>Few people seem keen these days to wan't to experiment with hardware.
I want to :)
>Besides, one of my programs is already top-ten at the moment haha!
>dev/mui/muimaster020.lha
>68020+ patch program for MUI3.8.
Hmm.. someone told me that it was a fake, but I guess it's not then :)
Marcel DeVoe
> Marcel Devoe <mde...@NoSpam.shore.net> wrote in message
>> Yes but you said it could be accessed via the A1200's clock port,
>> which is lacking in the other Amigas.
> I never said anything about the clock port. The Flashroms plug into
> the Kickstart sockets.
Yes, I was confusing it with another thread I was active in. But you did
make a reference to the A1200 that was different than other Amigas though,
which was the reason why I confused the two;
In article <3abf0...@news.acay.com.au> you wrote:
>> There is also hardware support built into the A1200 motherboard for
>> older Flashroms which require 12V to program. The schematics in the
>> A1200 techmanual show a 28F010 variation of the motherboard.
See? ;-)
>> It all seems very silly. I don't see why they WOULDN'T allow it.
>> I'm wondering now if Jens has just gotten too busy to bother.
>> It's been a year since he introduced the page.
> Trivial, I agree. But technically it then means that you have two sets
> of the Kickstart ROM, but you have only paid for one.
Well if you want to go THAT far, technically you have the right to make
/one/ backup of all your "hardware:software" (this is an inside joke
referring to a ridiculous thread in csa.misc ;)
>> Yes, but getting to a programming station for most of us would be even
>> more difficult. Doing it Jens' way is more feasable, abeit more
>> difficult and expensive for the type of board needed.
> I built one for my last A1200 which was stolen (sob!) in a house break-in a
> couple of years ago. It used 2x pin DIL sockets for the Kickstart chips, and
> 2 PLCC sockets which contained 2x29F800 chips. A switch selected either
> the real KS chips, or the FlashROMS. When you use 1MB chips, the area
> from $E00000-$E7FFFF is available for programming.
> The operating system scans this area when it first initializes the system,
> looking
> for any resident modules,librarys,devices etc.
Interesting. I always thought they had to be in specific locations, at
certain hardware memory addresses. I didn't know you could save them
helter-skelter.
[snip]
> The resultant executable file can just be sent straight to the extra 512k
> space ($E00000
> -$E7FFFF) and the libs/devices/etc. are in the liblist before workbench is
> loaded!
> I still have the circuit diagram if you are interested in builing one, but
> the software was on the machine that was stolen, and I didn't have a
> backup. Could always re-do it if necessary.
I used to do LOTS of DIY stuff when I was younger to get around paying
higher prices and do things not readily commercially available. But these
days I'd rather pay someone for it.
> Hope this is useful,
Hmm, right now, I have two (or is it three?) reboots between the Mac
emulation and AOS3.9. I guess you could say I'm doing what AOS 2.04 users
were doing at one time to access 3.1. In others words, the current way is
the cheaper way. ;) But I WOULD buy it if it were available, I just don't
have the time for DIY's anymore.
But the *others* in this thread certainly seem interested.
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Leslie Ayling
<Gl...@canit.se> wrote in message
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> > + On 28-Mar-01 15:34:40
> >Other stuff that I have uploaded to Aminet/hard/hack over the years has
> >attracted no comment whatsoever.
>
> What kind of projects was it ?
There are a few (circa 1990) items in Hard/hack:
14MHz A500 brute force clock speedup mod.
RAMROM. an A500 modification to overlay the Kickstart roms with an area of
RAM. A pre-cursor to the FlashROM project in a way.
DiskTracer. A disk drive track counter project that works on any SA-400
compatible drive interface (PC,Amiga,etc.)
My other interests are emulators, some of my releases are:
misc/emu/ AmiTRS80.lha TRS80 Model 1 emulator.
misc/emu/ Apple2000e.lha Apple2000 modified to work with Apple2e software.
misc/emu/ AmiSuperboard.lha An OSI superboard II emulator.
> >Few people seem keen these days to wan't to experiment with hardware.
>
> I want to :)
If you are serious, (that goes for anyone else) email me direct and I will
put
together an archive of the FlashROM project circuit, and give you some
ideas as to the software required.
> >Besides, one of my programs is already top-ten at the moment haha!
> >dev/mui/muimaster020.lha
> >68020+ patch program for MUI3.8.
>
> Hmm.. someone told me that it was a fake, but I guess it's not then :)
Who said that?
No, quite the contrary, it is a genuine release. Try it out on your system
and see the difference. I have got so many emails of thanks you wouldn't
believe it! Release #3 is out now, and speeds things up a fair bit.
Cheers,
Leslie
Patrick Ford
> >
> > Hmm.. someone told me that it was a fake, but I guess it's not then :)
>
> Who said that?
> No, quite the contrary, it is a genuine release. Try it out on your system
> and see the difference. I have got so many emails of thanks you wouldn't
> believe it! Release #3 is out now, and speeds things up a fair bit.
People are saying a lot worse than that--that it may be a trojan. It has
been pointed out that you belong to Digital Corruption, the group that
planted trojans on hundreds of machines in an attempt to destroy Miami's
reputation and discredit Holger Kruse, and also distributed cracked
copies of commercial software, including IBrowse.
I'm sure your MUIMaster library is safe to use. Piutting your name and
real email address in the readme may have forestalled people's fears a
little.
Why did you not advance the version number?
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+Leslie Ayling <lay...@intercoast.com.au> wrote
>> >Other stuff that I have uploaded to Aminet/hard/hack over the years has
>> >attracted no comment whatsoever.
>>
>> What kind of projects was it ?
>There are a few (circa 1990) items in Hard/hack:
>14MHz A500 brute force clock speedup mod.
I have looked at a few of this hacks.. but never got around to try it..
>RAMROM. an A500 modification to overlay the Kickstart roms with an area of
>RAM. A pre-cursor to the FlashROM project in a way.
What was the purpose ?
>DiskTracer. A disk drive track counter project that works on any SA-400
>compatible drive interface (PC,Amiga,etc.)
Always wanted one of theese when I was younger, but now it's not worth
building one :)
>My other interests are emulators, some of my releases are:
>misc/emu/ AmiTRS80.lha TRS80 Model 1 emulator.
>misc/emu/ Apple2000e.lha Apple2000 modified to work with Apple2e software.
>misc/emu/ AmiSuperboard.lha An OSI superboard II emulator.
Too bad your interest wasn't Spectravideo 318/328, I really would like an
emulator for theese :)
>> >Few people seem keen these days to wan't to experiment with hardware.
>>
>> I want to :)
>If you are serious, (that goes for anyone else) email me direct and I will
>put together an archive of the FlashROM project circuit, and give you some
>ideas as to the software required.
I would love to take a look at it, but it was more a interest of any
hardware hack :)
>> >Besides, one of my programs is already top-ten at the moment haha!
>> >dev/mui/muimaster020.lha
>> >68020+ patch program for MUI3.8.
>>
>> Hmm.. someone told me that it was a fake, but I guess it's not then :)
>Who said that?
Someone on IRC I think.. so I never downloaded it.
>No, quite the contrary, it is a genuine release. Try it out on your system
>and see the difference. I have got so many emails of thanks you wouldn't
>believe it! Release #3 is out now, and speeds things up a fair bit.
It's so noticeable ? I have to try it then :)
Marcel DeVoe
>> >Besides, one of my programs is already top-ten at the moment haha!
>> >dev/mui/muimaster020.lha
>> >68020+ patch program for MUI3.8.
>>
>> Hmm.. someone told me that it was a fake, but I guess it's not then :)
> Who said that?
> No, quite the contrary, it is a genuine release. Try it out on your system
> and see the difference. I have got so many emails of thanks you wouldn't
> believe it! Release #3 is out now, and speeds things up a fair bit.
Tried it and didn't see a whole lot of difference. But maybe that's
because it's meant to speed up slower systems than mine?
Patrick Ford
> Leslie Ayling <lay...@intercoast.com.au> wrote:
> >> >Besides, one of my programs is already top-ten at the moment haha!
> >> >dev/mui/muimaster020.lha
> >> >68020+ patch program for MUI3.8.
> >>
> >> Hmm.. someone told me that it was a fake, but I guess it's not then :)
>
> > Who said that?
> > No, quite the contrary, it is a genuine release. Try it out on your system
> > and see the difference. I have got so many emails of thanks you wouldn't
> > believe it! Release #3 is out now, and speeds things up a fair bit.
>
> Tried it and didn't see a whole lot of difference. But maybe that's
> because it's meant to speed up slower systems than mine?
Did you get the third release? It's definitely faster on my '040.
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PF> Marcel DeVoe wrote:
PF>
PF> > Leslie Ayling <lay...@intercoast.com.au> wrote:
PF> > >> >Besides, one of my programs is already top-ten at the moment haha!
PF> > >> >dev/mui/muimaster020.lha
PF> > >> >68020+ patch program for MUI3.8.
PF> > >>
PF> > >> Hmm.. someone told me that it was a fake, but I guess it's not then :)
PF> >
PF> > > Who said that?
PF> > > No, quite the contrary, it is a genuine release. Try it out on your system
PF> > > and see the difference. I have got so many emails of thanks you wouldn't
PF> > > believe it! Release #3 is out now, and speeds things up a fair bit.
PF> >
PF> > Tried it and didn't see a whole lot of difference. But maybe that's
PF> > because it's meant to speed up slower systems than mine?
PF>
PF> Did you get the third release? It's definitely faster on my '040.
You mean this one?
Short: Muimaster.library 020 patch Rel 3
Author: RedSkull @ Digital Corruption
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Leslie Ayling
> "PF" == "Patrick Ford" writes:
>
> Short: Muimaster.library 020 patch Rel 3
> Author: RedSkull @ Digital Corruption
Rel 4 is now up at AMINET.
Well it will be when they come back up after the
downtime due to the StackAttack trojan nonsense.
Leslie
Patrick Ford
What pisses me off greatly about that is that in recent days I have
recommended several times in public forums that people should be using
StackAttack. I hope very very much that nobody got the trojan after
downloading on my suggestion.
Stot
I dont know if this was actually released ( i've emailed to ask ) but it as
a flashable kickstart unit by Individual Computers, Of Catweasel/Buddah
fame.
http://www.jschoenfeld.com/products/kickflash_e.htm
You could quite easily load it up with a modified 3.1 rom and change it if
it doesnt work. I guess if you could take a ROM dump after setpatches and
all you could put that in there too.
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Leslie Ayling
Patrick Ford <pa...@ihug.com.nz> wrote in message
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> > Well it will be when they come back up after the
> > downtime due to the StackAttack trojan nonsense.
>
> What pisses me off greatly about that is that in recent days I have
> recommended several times in public forums that people should be using
> StackAttack. I hope very very much that nobody got the trojan after
> downloading on my suggestion.
Hi Patrick,
Don't lose any sleep over it.
A quick dissassembly of the trojan code show that it does nothing more than
start a process which sends the abusive email to J. Haage.
It doesn't tamper with your system in any other way aprt from that.
Powering your machine down, and replacing the affected programs with the
old versions is all that needs to be done to get rid of the problem.
One thing this has shown is how vulnerable Aminet is to attack, and what
a fertile breeding ground it is for this kind of bullshit.
Perhaps logging of the IP's used by people uploading programs will
discourage this in future?
Leslie
Marcel DeVoe
Do you have your own web page one can download it from?
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Leslie Ayling
Marcel DeVoe <mde...@shore.net> wrote in message
news:ZZ_B6.1538$qO6.1...@news.shore.net...
> Leslie Ayling <lay...@intercoast.com.au> wrote:
> >> Short: Muimaster.library 020 patch Rel 3
> >> Author: RedSkull @ Digital Corruption
>
> > Rel 4 is now up at AMINET.
>
> > Well it will be when they come back up after the
> > downtime due to the StackAttack trojan nonsense.
>
> Do you have your own web page one can download it from?
>
Hi Marcel, et al.
If you are worried about trojans, virii etc. (and let's face it, who wouln't
be after the recent Aminet fiasco) you can always d/l the latest version
from my homepage at:
http://members.theglobe.com/Redskull1/muimaster020.lha
Rel 4 is the current version.
Cheers,
Leslie
Craig Blackman
Leslie,
I also did this for the C64. I was making modifications to the ROMs and
adding wedges in the tape drive space.
But I do think the Amiga is more difficult and expensive. The ROMs are
more expensive and the ROM burner I have doesn't access a big enough
memory space. I could make an adapter and burn one area at a time as I
did with some smaller chips but this is still much more work than the
AppleII or the C64.
One way to get around all the rebooting is to use "BlizKick" This is a
really wonderful tool that allows you to modify the ROMs and then keep
it in a file. You only need one reboot and from then on, until
powerdown, all the ROM mods remain in the computer.
I am using it now with space for Fusion, pieces of the romupdate,
Kingcon, no click, etc. IE many of the things that modify the ROMs can
be put into this file and once loaded it continues to act as the ROMs.
Basically, moving the ROMs into fast memory, with modifications, and
then protecting the memory area and booting back into it. Works just
super.
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Leslie Ayling
Hi Craig,
Craig Blackman <2cr...@home.com> wrote in message
> But I do think the Amiga is more difficult and expensive. The ROMs are
> more expensive and the ROM burner I have doesn't access a big enough
> memory space. I could make an adapter and burn one area at a time as I
> did with some smaller chips but this is still much more work than the
> AppleII or the C64.
More expensive yes, but the hardware is just as easy. The hardware to
interface roms and align their outputs to the DSACK signals is already
on the motherboard of every Amiga.
Flashroms can of course be programmed 'in-system' which removes the
need for a costly programmer unit.
>
> One way to get around all the rebooting is to use "BlizKick" This is a
> really wonderful tool that allows you to modify the ROMs and then keep
> it in a file. You only need one reboot and from then on, until
> powerdown, all the ROM mods remain in the computer.
>
> I am using it now with space for Fusion, pieces of the romupdate,
> Kingcon, no click, etc. IE many of the things that modify the ROMs can
> be put into this file and once loaded it continues to act as the ROMs.
> Basically, moving the ROMs into fast memory, with modifications, and
> then protecting the memory area and booting back into it. Works just
> super.
I agree, and use BlizzKick myself with my B1260/66 card.
What Blizzkick will not do however is give you an extra 512k rom space
to play with at $E00000, which a hardware mod will allow.
Cheers,
Leslie
Ville Jouppi
<lay...@intercoast.com.au> wrote:
>
>I agree, and use BlizzKick myself with my B1260/66 card.
>What Blizzkick will not do however is give you an extra 512k rom space
>to play with at $E00000, which a hardware mod will allow.
What about Blizkick's ext buffer where you can add as many modules as you
like?
Craig Blackman
>>
>>I agree, and use BlizzKick myself with my B1260/66 card.
>>What Blizzkick will not do however is give you an extra 512k rom space
>>to play with at $E00000, which a hardware mod will allow.
>What about Blizkick's ext buffer where you can add as many modules as you
>like?
Agreed. You are limited in size in the ROMs not in BlizKick.
Leslie, I quite disagree with you on how easy this is. You aren't
actually doing it, but are instead talking about it in theory. If
it was so dang easy then people would be doing it now and not waiting on
Jens' product.
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Leslie Ayling
Craig Blackman <2cr...@home.com> wrote in message > >What about Blizkick's
ext buffer where you can add as many modules as you
> >like?
>
> Agreed. You are limited in size in the ROMs not in BlizKick.
>
> Leslie, I quite disagree with you on how easy this is. You aren't
> actually doing it, but are instead talking about it in theory. If
> it was so dang easy then people would be doing it now and not waiting on
> Jens' product.
Hi Craig,
Err, I forgot completely about the extra module space in Blizzkick.
That still leaves Apollo users etc. up the creek without a paddle.
I have already built one of these units which was in an A1200 I had
which unfortunately disappeared during a home break-in several years
ago.
My design was a simple adaptation of the schematic shown in the
A1200 service manual, that shows how to interface 28F010 flash roms
to the A1200. I simply modified the circuit for use with 29F400/800
chips which is a doddle.
Scans of the A1200 service manual are on the A1200 page at the
big book of Amiga hardware www.amig-hardware.com
by the way, if you don't have it.
Using a simple Toggle switch to make the flash chips either appear
in the _Flash area ($F00000) or overwrite the rom area allows you
to program them in-system and switch select either your real roms,
or the flashroms.
The software is dead easy. Look on AMD's homepage for details.
I developed something along these lines about 10 years ago to work
on the A500, only I was using the memory on the expansion ram
card to overlay the system roms. look at Aminet:hard/hack/ramrom.lha
for more info, see how trivial it really is.
Cheers,
Leslie
Ronald Teune
>> I am using it now with space for Fusion, pieces of the romupdate,
>> Kingcon, no click, etc. IE many of the things that modify the ROMs can
>> be put into this file and once loaded it continues to act as the ROMs.
>> Basically, moving the ROMs into fast memory, with modifications, and
>> then protecting the memory area and booting back into it. Works just
>> super.
>
>I agree, and use BlizzKick myself with my B1260/66 card.
>What Blizzkick will not do however is give you an extra 512k rom space
>to play with at $E00000, which a hardware mod will allow.
But where can I get it!?!?! Or is it a Blizzard-only thingy?
>Cheers,
>Leslie
Ville Jouppi
wrote:
Firstly, one would perhaps use Aminet's search engine with the keyword
"Blizkick" (one Z) Then maybe use Google? The net's loaded with search
engines, you can usually find what you're looking for with some effort. (just
choose your keywords well..)
If that doesn't yield any results, try the author's homepage:
http://www.cc.jyu.fi/~sintonen/
It's not Blizzard only, but it doesn't support that many cards yet .. Check
out the documentation. Mostly P5 / DCE cards.
Leslie Ayling
Gene Heskett <gene_h...@iolinc.net> wrote in message
> But, I'm gonna preach about the piracy a bit, buy a legal upgrade and
> support the developers. If there is no market due to piracy, then
> developers certainly aren't going to continue to feed a black hole, and
> in the end we all suffer.
>
> I think the correct attitude is TANSTAAFL. Look it up.
>
> Cheers, Gene
Hi Gene,
There was no mention anywhere in this thread that anybody wanted to
build, or had built, such a device for the purpose of pirating AmigaOS.
The original FlashROM KS replacement module I built was for the
purpose of experimenting with KS modifications, fixing bugs in KS
(Yes Virginia, there are a few) (Check Harry Sintonen's work on
Exec 44.1 Beta3!).
Such a device allows you to incorporate the bug fixes made by various
Setpatch versions into the roms, so that they are available at power-on,
speeding up the boot-up procedure, and (less important these days)
saving disk space for the patches.
Cheers,
Leslie
A1200 B1260/66MHz 64MB 4GBHD KS3.1 in ROM.
A4000 A3640/40MHz 18MB 2GBHD KS3.1 in ROM.
Craig Blackman
>Hi Craig,
>Err, I forgot completely about the extra module space in Blizzkick.
>That still leaves Apollo users etc. up the creek without a paddle.
>I have already built one of these units which was in an A1200 I had
>which unfortunately disappeared during a home break-in several years
>ago.
>My design was a simple adaptation of the schematic shown in the
>A1200 service manual, that shows how to interface 28F010 flash roms
>to the A1200. I simply modified the circuit for use with 29F400/800
>chips which is a doddle.
>Scans of the A1200 service manual are on the A1200 page at the
>big book of Amiga hardware www.amig-hardware.com
>by the way, if you don't have it.
>Using a simple Toggle switch to make the flash chips either appear
>in the _Flash area ($F00000) or overwrite the rom area allows you
>to program them in-system and switch select either your real roms,
>or the flashroms.
>The software is dead easy. Look on AMD's homepage for details.
>I developed something along these lines about 10 years ago to work
>on the A500, only I was using the memory on the expansion ram
>card to overlay the system roms. look at Aminet:hard/hack/ramrom.lha
>for more info, see how trivial it really is.
>Cheers,
>Leslie
Guess I'm getting lazy in my old age. I'll wait for Jens product.
Although, I really hate the lack of documentation he has for just about
everything he sales. Nice stuff just really poorly documented.
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