Partition resizing
Jeremy Russell
completely full but want to add more things to it such as librarys etc. Is
it possible to resize the partition without loosing the information? I know
it has a slider in HDToolbox but surely data will be lost. Any ideas?
Francis Russell
Kirk Strauser
No, you cannot resize a partition without losing data on both partitions
affected. For example, if you're taking space from DH1: and adding it to
DH0:, both partitions will be corrupted.
You need to backup your drive, make the change, format both partitions,
then restore from your backup.
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Anthony
>>completely full but want to add more things to it such as librarys etc.
>>Is it possible to resize the partition without loosing the information?
>>I know it has a slider in HDToolbox but surely data will be lost. Any
>>ideas?
>
>No, you cannot resize a partition without losing data on both partitions
>affected. For example, if you're taking space from DH1: and adding it to
>DH0:, both partitions will be corrupted.
>
>You need to backup your drive, make the change, format both partitions,
>then restore from your backup.
You could always MOVE some of your existing libraries/devices etc to
the second partition and use an ASSIGN ADD in the user-startup to
allow the system to find them there.
If you had the two partitions marked as HD0: and HD1: You could
create a directory on HD1: called "Libs" and then in the user-startup
add the line -
ASSIGN LIBS: HD1:LIBS ADD
You can move all your NON-System libraries (libraries which don't
belong to the Amiga's OS) to the libs directory on HD1: and free up
valuable space.
This doesn't solve the problem, but does patch it until your ready
to repartition, format and reinstall.
Anthony
Bruce Abbott
>I have a 2.1 Gb hard drive with an 8mb Workbench partition. It is almost
>completely full but want to add more things to it such as librarys etc. Is
>it possible to resize the partition without loosing the information? I know
>it has a slider in HDToolbox but surely data will be lost. Any ideas?
>Francis Russell
You cannot resize or move any partition without losing all the files
in it. Probably your next partition is immediately after the Workbench
partition, so you would lose this as well :-(.
However, there is a way out without needing to repartition. Just move
some things off Workbench: onto another partition, (eg. Tools, System,
Prefs). If there are any assigns or tooltypes that reference these
directories you may need to change them.
You can also add directories to an existing assign. eg. (assuming you
have another partition called 'Work:') make a 'libs' directory in Work:,
and put the following line into your startup-sequence:-
assign libs: work:libs ADD
This would allow you to move some libraries into Work:libs.
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Thomas Newsom
>> I have a 2.1 Gb hard drive with an 8mb Workbench partition. It is almost
>> completely full but want to add more things to it such as librarys etc.
Is
>> it possible to resize the partition without loosing the information? I
>> know it has a slider in HDToolbox but surely data will be lost. Any
ideas?
>> Francis Russell
> You cannot resize or move any partition without losing all the files
> in it. Probably your next partition is immediately after the Workbench
> partition, so you would lose this as well :-(.
> However, there is a way out without needing to repartition. Just move
> some things off Workbench: onto another partition, (eg. Tools, System,
> Prefs). If there are any assigns or tooltypes that reference these
> directories you may need to change them.
> You can also add directories to an existing assign. eg. (assuming you
> have another partition called 'Work:') make a 'libs' directory in Work:,
> and put the following line into your startup-sequence:-
> assign libs: work:libs ADD
> This would allow you to move some libraries into Work:libs.
I sent this guy a private email saying it can be done and it can, but you
have to be kind of lucky for it to work. I've repartitioned several drives
without losing any data this way. Heres how...
Now then, I've used this trick myself without any problems a couple of
times, BUT I cannot say if it will or will not work for you, maybe worth a
try?
Your call...
Use Reorg (or which ever is your favourite defrag program), make sure you
set the defragger to move all files to the FRONT (IE the first few blocks
of the partition) of your boot partition, when it's finished that, defrag
the next partition (IE if DH0: is your boot partition DH1: is your next
logical one), now defrag that but set it so that the data is moved to the
MIDDLE of the partition. Reboot.
Now load up HDToolBox or whichever you use for partitioning your hard
drives, make the boot partition as big as you want it to be. save changes
to drive.
Cross your fingers and reboot....
Both the partitions should be unbootable? I had it once where i just
rebooted and everything worked first time, but....If not....
Disksalv (or Quaterbacktools) to retrieve your 'lost' (it isn't actually
lost, because you've changed the physical size of your partitions DOS can't
find what it's looking for) data but once thats finished you should have
all your stuff back.
Like I said I've done this a couple of times and its worked everytime for
me.
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I cannot and will not be held responsible for any data lost resulting
through the information placed above. It has worked for me but it may not
work for you. You carry the instructions out under your own steam.
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Kirk Strauser
>Use Reorg...
>Now load up HDToolBox or whichever you use for partitioning your hard
>drives, make the boot partition as big as you want it to be. save changes
>to drive.
>Cross your fingers and reboot....
Actually, I've done this too (particularly back before I had several gigs
of data I didn't want to lose). The main reason I didn't mention it is
that I think it'd be best if your casual user wasn't too aware of that
little trick.
Thomas Newsom
>> Use Reorg...
>> Now load up HDToolBox or whichever you use for partitioning your hard
>> drives, make the boot partition as big as you want it to be. save changes
>> to drive.
>> Cross your fingers and reboot....
> Actually, I've done this too (particularly back before I had several gigs
> of data I didn't want to lose). The main reason I didn't mention it is
> that I think it'd be best if your casual user wasn't too aware of that
> little trick.
I agree, however, if the person doing this is up on his system it can do no
harm. If your a casual user I don't think you would ask such a question
anyway.
It worked for me is all I'm saying, and you too obviously.
Dave Morgan
>completely full but want to add more things to it such as librarys etc. Is
>it possible to resize the partition without loosing the information? I know
>it has a slider in HDToolbox but surely data will be lost. Any ideas?
The way to do this is just to back up you hard drive, re-partition, and reformat then restore your files.
That is exactly what I did using Quarterback and have had no problems at all.
Ed Kivi
14:09:
> I have a 2.1 Gb hard drive with an 8mb Workbench partition. It is
almost
> completely full but want to add more things to it such as librarys etc.
> Is it possible to resize the partition without loosing the information?
I
> know it has a slider in HDToolbox but surely data will be lost. Any
ideas?
You cannot re-partition without losing the data. Back-up your stuff
(hopefully on a BIG tape capacity) and restore after re-partitioning. Or
perhaps you can borrow a similar size HD and temporarily connect it ...
partition it as you want your own; copy old WB to new WB; old Work to new
Work, etc. Partition your own HD, then copy back from the borrowed one.
P.S. I had the same 8MB WB partition on my original 1.08GB HD, and faced
the same problem you mention. Managed to add a 2.1GB HD which I used as
the back-up device. Had the case open, and new HD sitting loose during the
operation ... scary ... but it worked. Now have a 128MB WB and 900MB Work.
The increased capacities of HDs these days is a mixed blessing ... lots of
room to keep stuff, but backing up onto floppies will never happen again!
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Gordon Gilbert
Re: Partition resizing
>>I have a 2.1 Gb hard drive with an 8mb Workbench partition. It is
>>almost completely full but want to add more things to it such as
>>librarys etc. Is it possible to resize the partition without
>>loosing the information? I know it has a slider in HDToolbox but
>>surely data will be lost. Any ideas?
DM> The way to do this is just to back up you hard drive,
DM> re-partition, and reformat then restore your files. That is
DM> exactly what I did using Quarterback and have had no problems at
DM> all.
Wouldn't he have to back-up the entire hard drive to do that? I
know I don't have any good way to backup my rather small hard drives
(floppies are a pain). I've backed up just the important WB stuff
before but unless I want to invest in a tape drive or a Zip drive or
something, I know I'm not going to back up over 300 megs on floppy.
In any case, one might be able to reassign certain parts of their
WB partition onto another partition. I know before I got my 2nd hard
drive and just had my original 125Meg drive that came with the A3000
and I was running out of space on the WB partition, I moved my entire
Fonts drawer (which was rather large) onto another paritition and then
just assigned "Fonts:" to that partition. Worked great and freed up a
couple of megs. Other directories can be reassigned as well. You can
even set paths to command files and move some C commands elsewhere.
This might be helpful if backing up your hard drive is impractical
right now.
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Thomas Newsom
>> I have a 2.1 Gb hard drive with an 8mb Workbench partition. It is
> almost
>> completely full but want to add more things to it such as librarys etc.
>> Is it possible to resize the partition without loosing the information?
> I
>> know it has a slider in HDToolbox but surely data will be lost. Any
> ideas?
> You cannot re-partition without losing the data. Back-up your stuff
False, You can as I and a few others have stated.