ATAPI/IDE CD-ROMs and the A1200
Richard Hoar
Well I got an IDE / ATAPI Iomega zip drive today.. but theres one
small problem.. it doesnt work... I have mounted the Zip drive internally
by removing the small converter from 44->40 data + 4 power from my
Dataflyer Chassis ... the zip sits where my blown out old disk drive used
to sit.. Now it powers up and seems to be detected at bootup.. like a
CDROM.. the HD light stays on for about half of the booting period.. I
think the problem may be the slave / master IDE setting.. I have a
Seagate ST9051a (old 40 megger 2.5") and I have it set as usual..
preuming thats is master .. the pin closest to the connector covered..
the Zip is set to slave.. factory settings.. It may just be it doesnt
work off SCSI.device and needs a CD ROM ATAPI driver.. if anyone has any
info for me I would be more than grateful!
Thanks,
Richard Hoar
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Richard Hoar
I am sorry .. the title of this article was to read ZIP-DRIVES.. Not
CD-ROMS.. in case anyone was unsure..
-Richard Hoar
Chris Appleton
On 06-Sep-97 23:52:43, Richard Hoar said about ATAPI/IDE CD-ROMs and the
A1200:
>the Zip is set to slave.. factory settings.. It may just be it doesnt
>work off SCSI.device and needs a CD ROM ATAPI driver.. if anyone has any
>info for me I would be more than grateful!
Sounds like indeed your jumper settings are incorrect. However, usually when
the master-slave settings aren't right it won't boot at all, my system just
hangs with the HD light on.
Neither the IDE or ATAPI Zip need a CD-Rom driver. The IDE works as a HD from
scsi.device (here it does anyway), while for the ATAPI you should use
IDEFix97, which will see it as a scsi.device drive and let you use it fully.
Chris
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Harlan Carroll
Chris Appleton:
> Neither the IDE or ATAPI Zip need a CD-Rom driver. The IDE works as a HD
from
> scsi.device (here it does anyway), while for the ATAPI you should use
> IDEFix97, which will see it as a scsi.device drive and let you use it
fully.
I have an A4000 with a 2.5GB hard drive, and a 12X IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM. The
HD is set for master, and the CD is set for slave. But I cannot get
AsimCDFS to install, since there is one 2.5GB partition. The file system
or operating system has a problem with that, and several programs will bot
install because they think Will IDEFix97 recognize the CD-ROM, and will
it even install on the 4000 with the oversized partition?
Is there anything I can do to get another partition on the 2.5GB drive,
without having to backup the 200MB of files already on the Toaster 4000?
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Franz Farklas
On So 07.09.1997 at 05:52:43 wrote wi...@freenet.Victoria.BC.CA (Richard Hoar)
in Message "ATAPI/IDE CD-ROMs and the A1200":
RH> Well I got an IDE / ATAPI Iomega zip drive today.. but theres one
RH> small problem.. it doesnt work... I have mounted the Zip drive internally
RH> by removing the small converter from 44->40 data + 4 power from my
RH> Dataflyer Chassis ... the zip sits where my blown out old disk drive used
RH> to sit.. Now it powers up and seems to be detected at bootup.. like a
RH> CDROM.. the HD light stays on for about half of the booting period.. I
RH> think the problem may be the slave / master IDE setting.. I have a
RH> Seagate ST9051a (old 40 megger 2.5") and I have it set as usual..
RH> preuming thats is master .. the pin closest to the connector covered..
RH> the Zip is set to slave.. factory settings.. It may just be it doesnt
RH> work off SCSI.device and needs a CD ROM ATAPI driver.. if anyone has any
RH> info for me I would be more than grateful!
Try IDEFix from Aminet. It should work with the ZIP.
Banane
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Harlan Carroll
Franz Farklas:
> Try IDEFix from Aminet. It should work with the ZIP.
Will IDEFix make an IDE CD-ROM work as a slave to a IDE hard drive?
Ritchie Harman
Harlan Carroll wrote in article <01bcbf40$567128c0$278f46cf@nick>...
>
>Franz Farklas:
>> Try IDEFix from Aminet. It should work with the ZIP.
>
>Will IDEFix make an IDE CD-ROM work as a slave to a IDE hard drive?
I would like to say yes but it depends on what CDrom and what hard drive ?
Some 2.5" hard drives have problems working with any CDrom
Ritchie
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Harlan Carroll
Ritchie Harman:
> >Will IDEFix make an IDE CD-ROM work as a slave to a IDE hard drive?
> I would like to say yes but it depends on what CDrom and what hard drive
?
> Some 2.5" hard drives have problems working with any CDrom
Well, especially a Maxtor 2.5GB HD (3.5") and a 12X ATAPI IDE CD-ROM.
That's on a 4000 system, tho.
Jurjen Oskam
In a message of 08 Sep 97 (21:44:18) Franz Farklas wrote to All: (about
"ATAPI/IDE CD-ROMs and the A1200")
Hi Franz!
RH>> may just be it doesnt work off SCSI.device and needs a CD ROM ATAPI
RH>> driver.. if anyone has any info for me I would be more than grateful!
FF> Try IDEFix from Aminet. It should work with the ZIP.
Or try the new scsi.device from AI. It's a beta-version right now, but it can
handle ATAPI devices and such. Available at ftp.amiga.de .
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Chris Appleton
On 08-Sep-97 16:44:18, Franz Farklas said about Re: ATAPI/IDE CD-ROMs and the
A1200:>Hoar) in Message "ATAPI/IDE CD-ROMs and the A1200":
RH>> Well I got an IDE / ATAPI Iomega zip drive today.. but theres one
Which one do you have? There are differences between the IDE and the ATAPI
drives, they are seperate models.
A quick lesson on Zip-spotting, if the drive has a red/grey logo and a
seperate eject button and light, it's IDE. If the logo is embossed white and
the light is inside the button, it's ATAPI.
>Try IDEFix from Aminet. It should work with the ZIP.
You only need IDEFix if it's an ATAPI drive. The IDE drives work under
AmigaDos as a hard drive, and patches are available (ZipWatch) to support disk
removal.
Chris
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Michael Griggs
Chris Appleton (comp.sys.amiga.hardware: 13-Sep-97 17:24:29) wrote:
>A quick lesson on Zip-spotting, if the drive has a red/grey logo and a
>seperate eject button and light, it's IDE. If the logo is embossed white and
>the light is inside the button, it's ATAPI.
Train-spotter Train-spotter! ;)
Sorry, couldn't resist - useful info, tho':)
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Chris Appleton
On 13-Sep-97 18:59:39, Michael Griggs said about Re: ATAPI/IDE CD-ROMs and the
A1200:
>Train-spotter Train-spotter! ;)
:P
>Sorry, couldn't resist - useful info, tho':)
It's OK, it was pretty anoraky :)
I just get annoyed with people saying "I've got a IDE/ATAPI Zip". It's like
saying "I've got a SCSI/IDE Zip". Helps to treat them completely differently
since you need different software.
Chris
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Ritchie Harman
Chris Appleton wrote in article
<557.7196T...@fuchal.demon.co.uk>...>It's OK, it was pretty anoraky :)
>
>I just get annoyed with people saying "I've got a IDE/ATAPI Zip". It's like
>saying "I've got a SCSI/IDE Zip". Helps to treat them completely
differently
>since you need different software.
You also need a metric imperial spanner to bolt it down :O)